Ppl think Tobi > Madara? What?

[Out Of Ctrl]

LOL why is this still going?

It seems that some people are rather ignorant, in denial or simply cant comprehend what intangible means. :sy:

 

[Arcaneos510X]

i dont want to argue but i voted for tobi.

 

[jdilla]

Shinra Tensei is a counter to Tobi's space time i don't know why people are thinking his space time is so fast? first up he would have to get close enough to madara to use it and second he leaves him self vulnerable when he does as if big tough madara would not pwn him something while he was trying to use it. Also people keep talking about gedo mazo with bijuus in it didn't he put them into his paths so he could take out naruto? personally i think madara could control bijuus and gedo mazo better than tobi based on his hype!

 

[youralltrolls]

Are you stupid?

Where's Madara going to be using these techniques? In Tobi's illusion world? He won't have time to pull out these moves, the fight would already be over.

It's clear you're one of Madara's sucky suckies, so this is pointless. You can remain stupid if you like, it has no effect on me.

This post is full of fail.

 

[-Liquid Cefka-]

LOL why is this still going?

It seems that some people are rather ignorant, in denial or simply cant comprehend what intangible means. :sy:

I agree, your are rather ignorant.

Tobi has to materialize to absorb something. In the short window of being absorbed, Madara Shinra Tenseis him. Next.

 

[jdilla]

I agree, your are rather ignorant.

Tobi has to materialize to absorb something. In the short window of being absorbed, Madara Shinra Tenseis him. Next.

Grrrr I said this like 5 pages ago and again just above. Am I invisible?

 

[-Liquid Cefka-]

Grrrr I said this like 5 pages ago and again just above. Am I invisible?

Sorry bro, I didnt see you. I'm trying to read everything, amnd reply to the idiots who cant see that I have literally several scenarios in which Madara counters each of Tobi's powers.

 

[Out Of Ctrl]

I agree, your are rather ignorant.

Tobi has to materialize to absorb something. In the short window of being absorbed, Madara Shinra Tenseis him. Next.

Grrrr I said this like 5 pages ago and again just above. Am I invisible?

It does not matter that Tobi needs to materialize, just look how fast Tobi's warping ability is. He warps away Torune instantly.

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Also Tobi doesnt necessarily require to materialize as this manga page shows. You can clearly see that Tobi is poking his head from the ground while being intangible and instantly warping away Fuu as he stands on the ground.

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Again like I have stated before, Madara is not getting away unless he has super speed reflexes like Naruto or Minato.

 

[Scryed]

Well now I have second thoughts. If Madara could use Shinra Tensei, then that's a way to counter Tobi's absorption and Human Path which would be the only ways to defeat Madara.

 

[jdilla]

Sorry bro, I didnt see you. I'm trying to read everything, amnd reply to the idiots who cant see that I have literally several scenarios in which Madara counters each of Tobi's powers.

Sall good man. Another thing Tobi only has one rinnegan eye which is obtained unnaturally as opposed to madaras two which he got on his own, don't know if it makes a difference but it's something. I believe this can also disprove that Tobi is Uchiha otherwise he would be a mad dog and have the same douju as Madara.

 

[-Liquid Cefka-]

It does not matter that Tobi needs to materialize, just look how fast Tobi's warping ability is. He warps away Torune instantly.

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Also Tobi doesnt necessarily require to materialize as this manga page shows. You can clearly see that Tobi is poking his head from the ground while being intangible and instantly warping away Fuu as he stands on the ground.

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Again like I have stated before, Madara is not getting away unless he has super speed reflexes like Naruto or Minato.

Tobi's warps toward Madara, intent on absorbing him. Madara seeps into the Mokuton. Tobi misses. Madara appears at random point in the sprawling forest.

1 sec, I gotta find a page really quick.

 

[jdilla]

It does not matter that Tobi needs to materialize, just look how fast Tobi's warping ability is. He warps away Torune instantly.

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Also Tobi doesnt necessarily require to materialize as this manga page shows. You can clearly see that Tobi is poking his head from the ground while being intangible and instantly warping away Fuu as he stands on the ground.

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Again like I have stated before, Madara is not getting away unless he has super speed reflexes like Naruto or Minato.

I admit it's hard to argue with that but I'm still going to back Madara on the basis that he could counter that purely with his skill (he's supposed to be the second strongest nin ever so we must assume he has some sweet sweeeeeeet taijutsu) It doesn't show anywhere tobi using his jutsu when he's ethereal you can't see if he's already come out of the ground in the picture when he's using it.

 

[Out Of Ctrl]

Tobi's warps toward Madara, intent on absorbing him. Madara seeps into the Mokuton. Tobi misses. Madara appears at random point in the sprawling forest.

1 sec, I gotta find a page really quick.

I didnt know we were role playing..? Now you are just writing a story on how you would like the battle to go on. :sy:

Anyway all of that does not matter because how can Madara seep into Mokuton when he's already being warped into another dimension? It seems you are severly underestimating the speed of Tobi's S/T. Again let me reiterate, unless Madara has quick reflexes like Naruto and Minato then Madara is going to be sucked away even before he realizes.

This manga page shows how necessary it is to have Sace Time ability in order to even counter Tobi's Space Time. Why did Minato get away from Tobi's warp? Because he has Space time ability that allows him to teleport (FTG) and has quick reflexes.

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[-Liquid Cefka-]

I didnt know we were role playing..? Now you are just writing a story on how you would like the battle to go on. :sy:

Anyway all of that does not matter because how can Madara seep into Mokuton when he's already being warped into another dimension? It seems you are severly underestimating the speed of Tobi's S/T. Again let me reiterate, unless Madara has quick reflexes like Naruto and Minato then Madara is going to be sucked away even before he realizes.

This manga page shows how necessary it is to have Sace Time ability in order to even counter Tobi's Space Time. Why did Minato get away from Tobi's warp? Because he has Space time ability that allows him to teleport (FTG) and has quick reflexes.

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This is true . . . This is true . .

Unless the rea Madara is already hidden away in the Mokuton, and Tobi absorbs a clone, Madara is pretty much absorbed .

 

[jdilla]

I didnt know we were role playing..? Now you are just writing a story on how you would like the battle to go on. :sy:

Anyway all of that does not matter because how can Madara seep into Mokuton when he's already being warped into another dimension? It seems you are severly underestimating the speed of Tobi's S/T. Again let me reiterate, unless Madara has quick reflexes like Naruto and Minato then Madara is going to be sucked away even before he realizes.

This manga page shows how necessary it is to have Sace Time ability in order to even counter Tobi's Space Time. Why did Minato get away from Tobi's warp? Because he has Space time ability that allows him to teleport (FTG) and has quick reflexes.

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Madara's sharingan may help him anticipate the impending attack Tobi's space time may be fast but I still have my doubts that it's so fast only another space time/naruto and A speeds can counter it.

 

[NarutoKage2]

No. The Paths are paralyzed. Madara slaughters Tobi with Susano'o.
Or bombards him with Shados Clones. Oh, is Tobi going to get intagible and warp away? Or absorb the clones? Either way, Madara will have seen Tobi's technique, and taken it into account, thus preparing himself for a possible sneak attack from Tobi & his absorbing ability with, for example, Susano'o.

What? How are the paths paralyzed? Because of the flower world? Right, because that matters a lot to edo zombies who can regenerate and are being controlled by chakra rods. :sy:

Even if they breathe the pollen and die, they'll just regenerate. Have you forgotten, they're edos?

And Madara does'nt seem like the type to do a sneak attack, really.

 

[-Liquid Cefka-]

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It all depends on the fight. Madara could always make clones to distract Tobi. Unless you believe he can absorb 5+ Madara clones . . But then again, Tobi can avoid the clones altogether . . But Tobi is vulnerable to Genjutsu, intangible or not . . but unless Madara knows any sound based Genjutsu, or any Genjutsu that doesnt require eye contact, Madara wont land a Tsukiyomi/ Eye based Genjutsu oh Tobi unless he catches him first.
Then, if Tobi realises he's in Genjutsu, Madara could impale him on Susano'o while he vulnerable. Unless you believe Tobi can remain intangible while in Genjutsu, and for that I need proof.
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It really depends if Tobi thinks its prudent to absorb Madara, we dont know how much one knows about the other . .

 

[jdilla]

btw on an unrelated i don't know if anyone's mentioned this before but how sweet would it be if madara set the forest on fire thus making the fighting environment extremely volatile!

 

[-Liquid Cefka-]

What? How are the paths paralyzed? Because of the flower world? Right, because that matters a lot to edo zombies who can regenerate and are being controlled by chakra rods. :sy:

Even if they breathe the pollen and die, they'll just regenerate. Have you forgotten, they're edos?

And Madara does'nt seem like the type to do a sneak attack, really.

Paralysis or not, Mokuton supresses their chakra regardless, making them useless.

 

[Praveen2815]

I think masked man Tobi is Obito Uchiha with some White Zetsu DNA is his body.. Cuz of these points:

1. When Tobi and Kakashi meet for the first time in the anime, both of them stare at each other's sharingan.. The sharing is shown tat it can see chakra, meaning tat Kakashi would have sensed the same type of chakra in tat sharingan as his own..

2.Tobi never uses it for high level jutsus and he never replaces it.. Meaning it is his own sharingan and his original left sharingan is the one with Kakashi..

3. For the second point, u may ask wat about the sharingan on the left tat was displayed during his fight with Konan.. He was shown to have a laboratory full of sharingans so it must be a one from tat..

4. He must be able to use Space-Time Migration jutsu.. If he is Obito he could have seen Minato using it and derived from it after he got through the mess in ehich he was shown to die..

5. Simple.. His name is "Tobi" which could be like "Obito" if u put the "T" in front it becomes "Toobi"..