[Spoilers] Izanami is Absolutely Useless in Combat

[Totsuka No Tsurugi]

As much as I wanna roast the shyt outta you for that comment, I can't argue against it haha.

Don't go off topic xd lol

i know right xd LOL

Is Orochimaro really afraid to die? He might just be defying it, which is not same thing.It might just be his destiny to be an immortal snake- I mean look at his freakin' face :noc:. You're applying logic from our world and then compare it to a world where people look like sharks etc.

sharks huh ? ok
"We are humans, not fish. We don't know what kind of people we truly are until the moment before our deaths. As death comes to embrace you, you will realise what you are. That's what death is, don't you think?"

even in Naruto no one is immortal, even the great sage died:shrug:

lol bitch, pls.

reread manga dude, I know its somewhat confusing but try again.

LOL nagato is even more pathetic, TNJ is all you need or show the book that jiraiya wrote,
nagato also have some god complex problem, he think himself as a god while in fact he's just a human

 

[siyo]

sharks huh ? ok

"We are humans, not fish. We don't know what kind of people we truly are until the moment before our deaths. As death comes to embrace you, you will realise what you are. That's what death is, don't you think?"

even in Naruto no one is immortal, even the great sage died:shrug:

What about Tailed beasts? They will be recreated over and over again, so Orochimaro simply found a loophole.Not because he was afraid but, because he saw the potential an immortal individual would have.

 

[Aze]

What about Tailed beasts? They will be reborn over and over again, so Orochimaro simply found a loophole.

That's true , the bjuus are made of chakra = chakra does not cease too excist.

Bjuus are truly immortal considering the fact = that they have lived for extremely long period of time.

:scorps:​

 

[khaydz5]

i know right xd LOL



sharks huh ? ok
"We are humans, not fish. We don't know what kind of people we truly are until the moment before our deaths. As death comes to embrace you, you will realise what you are. That's what death is, don't you think?"

even in Naruto no one is immortal, even the great sage died:shrug:



LOL nagato is even more pathetic, TNJ is all you need or show the book that jiraiya wrote,
nagato also have some god complex problem, he think himself as a god while in fact he's just a human

exactly, that means he would break that genjutsu in no time.

but still it was stated that kind of technique can't be used during an actual fight because of the risks involved. If your target manages to escape the jutsu, the caster is pretty much doomed.

 

[Totsuka No Tsurugi]

What about Tailed beasts? They will be recreated over and over again, so Orochimaro simply found a loophole.

mind what minato stated when he fight the kyubi, the bijuu cannot be killed because BLA BLA BLA i can't remember it says something about the balance of the shinobi world and the bijuu is not a humanxd

exactly, that means he would break that genjutsu in no time.

but still it was stated that kind of technique can't be used during an actual fight because of the risks involved. If your target manages to escape the jutsu, the caster is pretty much doomed.

can nagato figure out how to escape izanami without itachi telling him about how to escape the jutsu ?, good luck for him but his real body is out there standing open to all attack :shrug:

 

[blazekev90]

i know right xd LOL



sharks huh ? ok
"We are humans, not fish. We don't know what kind of people we truly are until the moment before our deaths. As death comes to embrace you, you will realise what you are. That's what death is, don't you think?"

even in Naruto no one is immortal, even the great sage died:shrug:



LOL nagato is even more pathetic, TNJ is all you need or show the book that jiraiya wrote,
nagato also have some god complex problem, he think himself as a god while in fact he's just a human

Accepting death and being able to die for two different things. As I stated Oro has means that prevent him from dying, which is the reality for his immortality in that three year time frame. However, he knows he is still capable of dying once his body rejects him or by a powerful enough attack. For example, he admitted that a direct hit from ttb would even end his life.

 

[partha420]

Not completely usless U_U .But yeah......compairing to izanagi,it.... ..... disappointed me..

 

[Totsuka No Tsurugi]

Accepting death and being able to die for two different things. As I stated Oro has means that prevent him from dying, which is the reality for his immortality in that three year time frame. However, he knows he is still capable of dying once his body rejects him or by a powerful enough attack. For example, he admitted that a direct hit from ttb would even end his life.

yeah but he refuse to kick the bucket, like zetsu said "persistent vermin"
he know he can die but refuse to acknowledge death as the ultimate end for all human, which is why he undergo all that experiment to gain the ultimate power from the sage

 

[GodaimeRaikage]

A million Itachi Fanboys just killed themselves.I wonder what the people who said Izanami would make Itachi overpowering have to say now

 

[blazekev90]

yeah but he refuse to kick the bucket, like zetsu said "persistent vermin"
he know he can die but refuse to acknowledge death as the ultimate end for all human, which is why he undergo all that experiment to gain the ultimate power from the sage

Actually, him undergoing his experiments proves that he did acknowledge death and the moment against the kyuubi he even admitted possibilities of his own death.

The loopof death wouldn't work

 

[khaydz5]

mind what minato stated when he fight the kyubi, the bijuu cannot be killed because BLA BLA BLA i can't remember it says something about the balance of the shinobi world and the bijuu is not a humanxd



can nagato figure out how to escape izanami without itachi telling him about how to escape the jutsu ?, good luck for him but his real body is out there standing open to all attack :shrug:

the way izanami works, we can't even say if that technique will work on anyone. the technique is only effective to those people who keep refusing their own destiny or for those people who can't accept their own self. as itachi says, it was invented to counter izanagi. and nagato, or any shinobi in general is not as stubborn as kabuto. why kabuto is still trap in the loop because he can't accept his true self and he still refuse to believe that itachi managed put him in a genjutsu.

anyway we'll see what will happen next week, how would kabuto escape that loop.

 

[Totsuka No Tsurugi]

Actually, him undergoing his experiments proves that he did acknowledge death and the moment against the kyuubi he even admitted possibilities of his own death.

The loopof death wouldn't work

so why he won't accept it ? and also he is using others to accomplish his goal,
like force his experiment to other people and using other people as his vessel in order to prolong his life, that alone imply that he want everything goes his way like the user of izanagi, with that he can repeat everything and fix it

the way izanami works, we can't even say if that technique will work on anyone. the technique is only effective to those people who keep refusing their own destiny or for those people who can't accept their own self. as itachi says, it was invented to counter izanagi. and nagato, or any shinobi in general is not as stubborn as kabuto. why kabuto is still trap in the loop because he can't accept his true self and he still refuse to believe that itachi managed put him in a genjutsu.

anyway we'll see what will happen next week, how would kabuto escape that loop.

nagato fell under that category
"i am god a mere human can't understand my goal" yeah he said something like that when he killed jiraiya

 

[siyo]

That's true , the bjuus are made of chakra = chakra does not cease too excist.

Bjuus are truly immortal considering the fact = that they have lived for extremely long period of time.

:scorps:​

Exactly, they are the closest things we have to immortality. That is their destiny, to keep living, which nullifies this notion that there are supernatural boundaries to what a Shinibo is allowed to do with his body and mind.

As long as the individual is true to himself and his values, then there shouldn’t be a weakness for Izanami to exploit. It doesn’t matter whether the intent of it all is good or bad, acknowledging one’s limitations are the main key to all of this.


:scorps:

 

[NarutoKage2]

True if he were to be caught, regardless of what his destiny really is, he really would struggle due to his arrogance.

However, it would still be a giant risk to attempt such a thing on such a powerful foe - for several reasons.

Well i don't seen any reason why he would'nt be caught unless he has knowledge of Izanami.

And from what we know, attempting it is easy and does'nt require any of the 5 senses to work.

 

[blazekev90]

so why he won't accept it ? and also he is using others to accomplish his goal,
like force his experiment to other people and using other people as his vessel in order to prolong his life, that alone imply that he want everything goes his way like the user of izanagi, with that he can repeat everything and fix it



nagato fell under that category
"i am god a mere human can't understand my goal" yeah he said something like that when he killed jiraiya

There isn't anything he needs to accept, he already acknowledge this.

 

[siyo]

Well i don't seen any reason why he would'nt be caught unless he has knowledge of Izanami.

And from what we know, attempting it is easy and does'nt require any of the 5 senses to work.

1. Madara, as the leader of clan, would know about every uchiha secret since he not only read the tablet, he also awakened the true power of the uchiha.

2.Izanami requires long prep ( you need to recreate the exact same scenario
twice and against a power house that is extremely unlikely).

3.Itachi would have to sacrifice one of his eyes, susano’o, and either amaterasu or Tsukuyomi

4.Itachi would not have Sasuke with him. Without Sasuke none of this would have occurred since it was a team effort.

5. Itachi himself said Izanami is not for battle, meaning the risks are too high.

6.A sick Itachin would have to fear the chakra aspect of this jutsu.

 

[NarutoKage2]

so why he won't accept it ? and also he is using others to accomplish his goal,
like force his experiment to other people and using other people as his vessel in order to prolong his life, that alone imply that he want everything goes his way like the user of izanagi, with that he can repeat everything and fix it



nagato fell under that category
"i am god a mere human can't understand my goal" yeah he said something like that when he killed jiraiya

No, Nagato did not fall under that category at all. If you remember before he died he said he put his trust in Naruto and was willing to sacrifice his life to revive the people he killed in Konoha, and he even talked about his meeting with Naruto being like the hand of the real God. He would have accepted his destiny.

1. Madara, as the leader of clan, would know about every uchiha secret since he not only read the tablet, he also awakened the true power of the uchiha.

2.Izanami requires long prep ( you need to recreate the exact same scenario
twice and against a power house that is extremely unlikely).

3.Itachi would have to sacrifice one of his eyes, susano’o, and either amaterasu or Tsukuyomi

4.Itachi would not have Sasuke with him. Without Sasuke none of this would have occurred since it was a team effort.

5. Itachi himself said Izanami is not for battle, meaning the risks are too high.

6.A sick Itachin would have to fear the chakra aspect of this jutsu.

1. Probably, i'll give you that. But the tech was invented for arrogant, probly strong Uchihas like Madara to stop them using Izanagi. If those Uchihas did'nt know about it, maybe Madara does'nt either.

2. He can use a kage bunshin or w/e. I'm not saying this is a VS thread and Itachi'll win, i'm just saying Izanami will work on someone like Madara.

3. Smh. Again, see my above point, i'm not saying this is a versus thread and that Itachi now wins.

4. Well, to be fair w/o Sasuke Itachi would not have been impaled by those rocks in the first place. Sasuke has been more of a burden than a help to him.

5. Its not for battle against anyone. It is useful against some people, Madara and Kabuto are 2 such people.

6. True, but Itachi is an edo here.

 

[Totsuka No Tsurugi]

There isn't anything he needs to accept, he already acknowledge this.

but still he's using other to power up himself, just like kabuto

No, Nagato did not fall under that category at all. If you remember before he died he said he put his trust in Naruto and was willing to sacrifice his life to revive the people he killed in Konoha, and he even talked about his meeting with Naruto being like the hand of the real God. He would have accepted his destiny.

what i mean is nagato before meeting naruto, now nagato is a good guy and not deluded anymore

 

[-Liquid Cefka-]

Thought this was obvious . . .

 

[ajpn920]

All of this was immensly Obvious too me.

Izanami = Makes the target to find out wat he has done wrong and it helps the target too find hes true self and bring him to the right path.

Izanami = was used to Punish those who had use Izanagi in a bad way.

Hope it helped.

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^^true