Madara and Tobi disgace of sharingan user

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I had been scrolling on some of the treads on this site for quiet a while when i had red some very kinda novice idea from every treads here, one tread that i had red is about Sasuke winning against Minato and i had read all of his explanation and one of explanation that annoys me is this SasuKe can one hit Minato with his genjutsu and win the day, and to the other treads is Itachi will win on Minato with the same idea that he will win with a genjutsu.

Im Kinda thinking if Minato can be defeated with a genjutsu why? Tobi


Humiliated himself on his battle with Minato, why not use a genjutsu and capture him has he intended to do? surely a sharingan user that can control the kyubi wont have a trouble using a genjutsu to capture Minato?
and if Minato will be defeated with a genjutsu why would he face a sharingan user that can do genjutsu?

and also on the battle of Hashirama Senju and Uchiha Madara
why madara did not use a genjutsu to win the battle?
or he alredy did use it, but Hasirama was not affected by it?
could the Uchiha fans answer this questions!
 
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Kyubi is like a wild animal, its not going to try and avoid the genjutsu. For "visual" genjutsu to work you have to look at them in the eyes and even then you can still break out by disrupting your own chakra flow or something like that, Naruto tried it once but he failed because its hard to master but a kage level ninja can definitely do it.
 
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Kyubi is like a wild animal, its not going to try and avoid the genjutsu. For "visual" genjutsu to work you have to look at them in the eyes and even then you can still break out by disrupting your own chakra flow or something like that, Naruto tried it once but he failed because its hard to master but a kage level ninja can definitely do it.
You can't break a Genjutsu you don't know your in, just ask Kabuto.

Also Tsukuyomi cannot be broken by disrupting your own chakra.
 
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1) The Hashirama vs Madara fight is Non canon, meaning don't use that when trying to make an argument.

2) One does not simply put a Kage in a genjutsu. Kage's are smarter and stronger than that.


agreed.. kage leveled fighters and geniuses like minato can counter the genjutsu u think just because they're caught in one that they can be defeated.. even j man taught naruto how to escape from a genjutsu
 

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Nope I Like both Itachi and Minato but i just don't like the Idea that A Prodigy and an Hokage like Minato would Be defeated with just a genjutsu.
Hokage is just a title, Danzo was the Hokage yet he got caught in a genjutsu.
Kage level Kakashi and Orochimaru both got caught in a crippling genjutsu by Itachi. Just because your Hokage doesn't make you exempt from genjutsu. If Kages can't get caught in Genjutsu than they also can't be hit with ninjutsu or Taijutsu(by your logic).
agreed.. kage leveled fighters and geniuses like minato can counter the genjutsu u think just because they're caught in one that they can be defeated.. even j man taught naruto how to escape from a genjutsu
Orochimaru, Kakashi, Danzo, Pain, and Kabuto beg to differ.

^^^The above mentioned shinobi are all Kage leveled and all got caught in a Genjutsu.

Naruto didn't break a genjutsu yet.

Kage or not, no one is exempt from genjutsu.

Why should Kage level shinobi be able to escape or brush off genjutsu but not be exempt from ninjutsu or taijutsu.

You fanboys these days lack logic.
 

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Orochimaru, Kakashi, Danzo, Pain, and Kabuto beg to differ.

^^^The above mentioned shinobi are all Kage leveled and all got caught in a Genjutsu.

Naruto didn't break a genjutsu yet.

Kage or not, no one is exempt from genjutsu.

Why should Kage level shinobi be able to escape or brush off genjutsu but not be exempt from ninjutsu or taijutsu.

You fanboys these days lack logic.
pain got caught by a sound genjutsu.
kabuto got caught by izanami which doesnt require eye contact
danzo in fact broke sasuke's genjutsu but didnt break the second cause he didnt realise it

as kabuto and gai has demonstrated eye genjutsu can be avoided simply by not looking in the eye

and also on the battle of Hashirama Senju and Uchiha Madara
why madara did not use a genjutsu to win the battle?
or he alredy did use it, but Hasirama was not affected by it?
could the Uchiha fans answer this questions!
hashirama knew madara inside out he wont fall for his genjutsu xd
 
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pain got caught by a sound genjutsu.
kabuto got caught by izanami which doesnt require eye contact
danzo in fact broke sasuke's genjutsu but didnt break the second cause he didnt realise it

as kabuto and gai has demonstrated eye genjutsu can be avoided simply by not looking in the eye



hashirama knew madara inside out he wont fall for his genjutsu xd
It doesn't matter what kind of genjutsu it is they still got caught meaning Kage level shinobi are not immune to Genjutsu which was my point.

As far as I'm concerned Madara is not proficient in genjutsu or just doesn't use it because he prefers raw power.
 

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It doesn't matter what kind of genjutsu it is they still got caught meaning Kage level shinobi are not immune to Genjutsu which was my point.

As far as I'm concerned Madara is not proficient in genjutsu or just doesn't use it because he prefers raw power.
thats true

well madara may not be as proficient in genjutsu as itachi but i'm sure he can perform powerful genjutsus which will serve the purpose i.e. tricking or trapping the opponent
 

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Hokage is just a title, Danzo was the Hokage yet he got caught in a genjutsu.
Kage level Kakashi and Orochimaru both got caught in a crippling genjutsu by Itachi. Just because your Hokage doesn't make you exempt from genjutsu. If Kages can't get caught in Genjutsu than they also can't be hit with ninjutsu or Taijutsu(by your logic).


Orochimaru, Kakashi, Danzo, Pain, and Kabuto beg to differ.

^^^The above mentioned shinobi are all Kage leveled and all got caught in a Genjutsu.

Naruto didn't break a genjutsu yet.

Kage or not, no one is exempt from genjutsu.

Why should Kage level shinobi be able to escape or brush off genjutsu but not be exempt from ninjutsu or taijutsu.

You fanboys these days lack logic.
i believe that u are showing your emotion to much my friend you are the one that lacking logic you did not even answer my question on this tread yet , but showing some stupid example of kage that cought by genjutsu are they minato or hashirama?
 

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If you're going to try and insult fictional characters at least have the intelligence to spell "disgrace" properly.

Secondly, you really shouldn't blabber about the Madara vs Hashirama fight. We didn't get any details on that fight, how the f*ck would you know whether genjutsu was used or not? Also, I'm pretty sure Tobi used his 3 tomoe sharingan to control the Kyuubi, so how is that a disgrace? Just because he didn't use genjutsu? LOL. GTFO. Controlling a Bijuu > Genjutsu.
yeah then why wait to be humiliated, why not use on Minato in the first place
 

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1st Madara Uchiha is the strongest Uchiha ever to born/ever to be known... You stupid ****.

2nd Tobi is one of the most strongest characters along with Madara... You can ****ing go and hang yourself if you think they're disgrace...

Madara has Genjutsu, he controlled the Kyuubi like Pet and you need strong eyes and genjutsu for that... Also Madara has Tsukuyomi maybe not as powerfull as Itachis but he has it BECAUSE Madara didn't train very much in genjutsu, he fights with other Jutsus/powers, but he has Genjutsu. And any Uchiha can one shot Minato with Tsukuyomi, even Kage level shinobi can't counter Tsukuyomi.
 

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1st Madara Uchiha is the strongest Uchiha ever to born/ever to be known... You stupid ****.

2nd Tobi is one of the most strongest characters along with Madara... You can ****ing go and hang yourself if you think they're disgrace...

Madara has Genjutsu, he controlled the Kyuubi like Pet and you need strong eyes and genjutsu for that... Also Madara has Tsukuyomi maybe not as powerfull as Itachis but he has it BECAUSE Madara didn't train very much in genjutsu, he fights with other Jutsus/powers, but he has Genjutsu. And any Uchiha can one shot Minato with Tsukuyomi, even Kage level shinobi can't counter Tsukuyomi.
then why not use in a first place could you justify your answer then!
you are implying that Minato was just a trash in front of any uchiha?
and Minato has no right to be a Hokage?
 
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I had been scrolling on some of the treads on this site for quiet a while when i had red some very kinda novice idea from every treads here, one tread that i had red is about Sasuke winning against Minato and i had read all of his explanation and one of explanation that annoys me is this SasuKe can one hit Minato with his genjutsu and win the day, and to the other treads is Itachi will win on Minato with the same idea that he will win with a genjutsu.

Im Kinda thinking if Minato can be defeated with a genjutsu why? Tobi


Humiliated himself on his battle with Minato, why not use a genjutsu and capture him has he intended to do? surely a sharingan user that can control the kyubi wont have a trouble using a genjutsu to capture Minato?
and if Minato will be defeated with a genjutsu why would he face a sharingan user that can do genjutsu?

and also on the battle of Hashirama Senju and Uchiha Madara
why madara did not use a genjutsu to win the battle?
or he alredy did use it, but Hasirama was not affected by it?
could the Uchiha fans answer this questions!
Just cause someone knows genjutsu doesn't mean they will use it every battle.
 
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