Ppl think Tobi > Madara? What?

[Out Of Ctrl]

Heh . . Pls refrain from trying to insult me. I really dont want to take it there.

The fact that you believe Tobi will finish Madara with mere Space/Time proves your "ignorant & thick".

Um you dont need fancy or big techniques to defeat someone, a great example is when Minato defeated Tobi with mere Rasengan with the help of FTG. A simple Rasengan defeated a top villain, was that hard to believe as well?

The same way Tobi's mere S/T is enough to defeat Madara. Now if you take away Tobi's S/T then we actually have something to debate. U_U

Additonally:
You talk of Madara needing to exceed the 5 minutes till Tobi is solid again. I just dont see why you cant see the fact that Tobi in those 5 mins has more than enough time to warp Madara away to another dimension. I dont think you have even answered my questioned that I asked, I'lll put it in a way so you can understand.

Question: In that 5 minutes of Tobi being intangible, what can Madara do to actually harm Tobi? U_U

 

[Kira was Righteous]

Wtf are you talking about? Kabuto never said Itachi was ever stronger than Madara.

He did Edo Madara is an Edo is he not? Madara was clearly in hi s possesion and he said Itachi is on a different level then the others.

Anyway Edo Madara would beat Tobi

 

[-Liquid Cefka-]

Madara won't realise in time. It'll literally be like:

- Tobi warps
- Madara is like 'WTF?'
- Tobi's behind him and instantly warps him up

Anyhow, once Madara is in the process of being warped, Susanoo won't be able to stop the process, trust me. This isn't so much that Tobi is stronger than Madara, it's just that this one Tobi technique is unconquerable unless you have a S/T ninjutsu of your own. Actually, I lie, if Madara could force Tobi to stop the warp himself (to make Tobi manually have to stop it himself), say with an explosion (i.e. a paper bomb), then that would work. The problem is, Madara just won't know what the f*ck is going on because he has no prior knowledge.

Does anyone get where I'm getting at? Madara will not fall to being warped away. If anything, Madara would have sensed Tobi's chakra before Tobi flanks him with his absorbing ability.

 

[Ryuu..]

Does anyone get where I'm getting at? Madara will not fall to being warped away. If anything, Madara would have sensed Tobi's chakra before Tobi flanks him with his absorbing ability.

You can believe that if you want, but.........meh.

 

[Out Of Ctrl]

Does anyone get where I'm getting at? Madara will not fall to being warped away. If anything, Madara would have sensed Tobi's chakra before Tobi flanks him with his absorbing ability.

I'm sorry but since when does Madara has the ability to sense chakra? Didn't know Madara was a sensor as well, I must've missed that chapter.

 

[-Liquid Cefka-]

Um you dont need fancy or big techniques to defeat someone, a great example is when Minato defeated Tobi with mere Rasengan with the help of FTG. A simple Rasengan defeated a top villain, was that hard to believe as well?

The same way Tobi's mere S/T is enough to defeat Madara. Now if you take away Tobi's S/T then we actually have something to debate. U_U

Additonally:
You talk of Madara needing to exceed the 5 minutes till Tobi is solid again. I just dont see why you cant see the fact that Tobi in those 5 mins has more than enough time to warp Madara away to another dimension. I dont think you have even answered my questioned that I asked, I'lll put it in a way so you can understand.

Question: In that 5 minutes of Tobi being intangible, what can Madara do to actually harm Tobi? U_U

I understand what your saying. I'm trying to address as much as I can within my replies. I'm on NB via my Ps3, and struggling typing the replies with a Ps3 controller with limited reply space.

 

[TouchMyMangos]

Tobi would absorb him with minimal effort. That shit is an instant win.

 

[Out Of Ctrl]

I understand what your saying. I'm trying to address as much as I can within my replies. I'm on NB via my Ps3, and struggling typing the replies with a Ps3 controller with limited reply space.

No problem take your time.

Tobi would absorb him with minimal effort. That shit is an instant win.

That's what some of us have been trying to say lol .

 

[TouchMyMangos]

No problem take your time.



That's what some of us have been trying to say lol .

Almost as HAX as KA, that's how bad it is.

 

[-Liquid Cefka-]

I'm sorry but since when does Madara has the ability to sense chakra? Didn't know Madara was a sensor as well, I must've missed that chapter.

Dont be a prick. You don't need to be a sensor to sense someones presence.

 

[Out Of Ctrl]

Dont be a prick. You don't need to be a sensor to sense someones presence.

Sensing someones prescence and sensing someones chakra are actually two different things. You made it out like Madara could sense chakra with that post and you are now merely speculating that Madara is good at sensing people's presence.

 

[-Liquid Cefka-]

Sensing someones prescence and sensing someones chakra are actually two different things. You made it out like Madara could sense chakra with that post and you are now merely speculating that Madara is good at sensing people's presence.

Your right, I suppose Chakra/presence are two different things, but you get what I'm trying to say to you. The fact that your instead trying to make me out to be an idiot rather than admit you get where I'm coming from brings me to the conclusion that your a ****.

I know for a fact you get what I'm trying to say. I understand what you mean, but your having a much better time trying to spite me. Its almost as if you want to get me mad, which is childish. Thus the reason I see ppl like you the reason NB is now shithole.

 

[-Liquid Cefka-]

Tobi would absorb him with minimal effort. That shit is an instant win.

No its not. There is a small window in which Tobi actually "needs" to absorb you, where Madara can launch a counter attack.

In reality its a matter of how Tobi tries to absorb Madara. If Tobi for instance grabs Madara to absorb him, he has to solidify, making himself vulnerable.

 

[Enton]

All I can say is S/T ninjutsu = gg.

 

[Out Of Ctrl]

Your right, I suppose Chakra/presence are two different things, but you get what I'm trying to say to you. The fact that your instead trying to make me out to be an idiot rather than admit you get where I'm coming from brings me to the conclusion that your a ****.

I know for a fact you get what I'm trying to say. I understand what you mean, but your having a much better time trying to spite me. Its almost as if you want to get me mad, which is childish. Thus the reason I see ppl like you the reason NB is now shithole.

I dont usually partake in Vs debates but when I do...:noc:

Oh a serious note, I do get what you were trying to say. The annoying thing is when the opposition doesnt get what I'm trying to say. If you look back my first post on this thread was a simple one that literally explained and ended the the title debate. But no unfortunately you couldnt comprehend what I meant and you kept pushing it so I had to try and explain it to you one way or another.

+Rep though because you would know that I'm actually a chilled out, funny guy with the threads that I come out with.

 

[-Liquid Cefka-]

All I can say is S/T ninjutsu = gg.

Right . . . *Sigh*

Heared that one before.

 

[BijuuBoy]

As a tobi fan he cant beat madara but he will put up a better fight thn hashi did imo

What ever tobi will not seal kurama away and defeat madara.hashirama is one of the strongest ninja ever.

 

[Kira was Righteous]

Space time is not as strong as many are making out here if it was Tobi wouldnt need the Juubi because he can just absorb everyone and they will automatically lose right?

You dont even need to speed to counter space time just a long range attack that is still active if he trys to absorb you

Hashiramas Pollen would do this if he trys to absorb Madara he has to go solid...apart from the fact that Madara will probably rip him to pieces if he trys to do that

 

[Frikid]

tobi can beat him easily imo.

S/T , intangibility, rinnegan, 6 bijjus , gedo mazo...

too much for madara to handle.

 

[-Liquid Cefka-]

I dont usually partake in Vs debates but when I do...:noc:

Oh a serious note, I do get what you were trying to say. The annoying thing is when the opposition doesnt get what I'm trying to say. If you look back my first post on this thread was a simple one that literally explained and ended the the title debate. But no unfortunately you couldnt comprehend what I meant and you kept pushing it so I had to try and explain it to you one way or another.

+Rep though because you would know that I'm actually a chilled out, funny guy with the threads that I come out with.

Couldn't comprehend? I knew exactly what your trying to say, but a debate doesnt simply end because "you" feel what you say should end things, it doesn't work that way. I mean, you'd think, "wait, what bitch?" if some condescending d*ck named "The Eye" came to a debate thinking his initial post was supposed to rectify the entire situation. But obviously you couldn't comprehend that.