Tsunade's way more experienced than Neji and far superior. Just because Kabuto kept up with Tsunade doesn't mean she's slow. Remember, Kabuto was in root as a spy. You think at the point where he fought against Tsunade he was slow ?!? not exactly. Plus, she has been in a great war before. What makes you think she hasn't been up against a agile shinobi before ?!? I think she'll win low to mid diff. Not hating on Neji, he's a good character. Plus if he tries to hit Tsunade with gentle fist she has Big Ol' T!tties to protect her xD
I never said she was slow. I said that she's not as agile as Neji. Neji's agility is the key advantage in this fight. Both Tsunade and Neji are close combat fighters. This is what's going to give Tsunade a great deal of problem. Neji's current agility far surpasses Kabuto's agility in Part 1.
Plus, Neji's Rotation deflects both physical and chakra attacks. It's stated in the Manga that no matter how strong an attack is, Neji's Rotation will be able to deflect it. This includes Tsunade's extremely powerful punches. Neji's Rotation itself could cause great damage to Tsunade, as all of the power she inserted in that punch will be deflect back at her.
And Neji's speed seems slightly higher than Tsunade's.
LOL, I haven't insulted any manga character so how am I the one who has issues ?!? BTW I never said a Hokage was invincible. Didn't Oro kill a Hokage ?!? You are the one who has issues with manga characters. You insulted Tsunade in the first page. Not cause of trolling or fanboys no you just have some kind of built up hatred inside. You probably like Neji. Think he's cute, like his hair ?!? :rofl: Or maybe your madd cause when you crossdress you don't look nowhere near as good as Tsunade even though she's a manga character ?!? I guess your mom reads you Naruto manga as a bedtime story. Go to sleep kidd. Ok, thnks goodnight bye.
I dont like Tsunade but i've been giving fairly good reasons why she would lose and dont look at one or two comments look at all of them and my reasons. This is what you said "But for you to come out of nowhere and believe that Neji can beat a Hokage you've got mental issues." So what im trying to say is it's not impossible to beat a hokages especially if there weak. Stop flamming my thread that's why you get tucked in by your moma at night GTFO troll.
I dont like Tsunade but i've been giving fairly good reasons why she would lose and dont look at one or two comments look at all of them and my reasons. This is what you said "But for you to come out of nowhere and believe that Neji can beat a Hokage you've got mental issues." So what im trying to say is it's not impossible to beat a hokages especially if there weak. Stop flamming my thread that's why you get tucked in by your moma at night GTFO troll.
The reason I said you came out of nowhere is because your first posts are you flamming a Hokage calling her weak and blah blah blah. You created a whole thread just to flame Tsunade as a Hokage !!!! And then you expect me to read your posts "explaining" your reasons. I never said it's impossible to beat a Hokage but Hokage is a high rank. For you to just automatically disrespect her like if she killer your dog. Flamming Tsunade like if she molested you as a child or something. It's just manga and it's characters. Why are you so upset at a Hokage with such nice boobs ?!? Shame on you. Flamming a manga character is sad. And after this war she would have said "I played a bigger part in saving the Shinobi world than Neji did. She's fighting Madara Who's possibly the biggest threat in this war besides Tobi and Kabuto.
I never said she was slow. I said that she's not as agile as Neji. Neji's agility is the key advantage in this fight. Both Tsunade and Neji are close combat fighters. This is what's going to give Tsunade a great deal of problem. Neji's current agility far surpasses Kabuto's agility in Part 1.
Plus, Neji's Rotation deflects both physical and chakra attacks. It's stated in the Manga that no matter how strong an attack is, Neji's Rotation will be able to deflect it. This includes Tsunade's extremely powerful punches. Neji's Rotation itself could cause great damage to Tsunade, as all of the power she inserted in that punch will be deflect back at her.
And Neji's speed seems slightly higher than Tsunade's.
Tsunade can summon a slug to drop slime on Neji and make him 10x slower than she pulls him by the ponytail (scorpion style) and uppercuts him and he lands on spikes Lol Jk making fun of the Neji fanboy (Naruto9001)
The reason I said you came out of nowhere is because your first posts are you flamming a Hokage calling her weak and blah blah blah. You created a whole thread just to flame Tsunade as a Hokage !!!! And then you expect me to read your posts "explaining" your reasons. I never said it's impossible to beat a Hokage but Hokage is a high rank. For you to just automatically disrespect her like if she killer your dog. Flamming Tsunade like if she molested you as a child or something. It's just manga and it's characters. Why are you so upset at a Hokage with such nice boobs ?!? Shame on you. Flamming a manga character is sad. And after this war she would have said "I played a bigger part in saving the Shinobi world than Neji did. She's fighting Madara Who's possibly the biggest threat in this war besides Tobi and Kabuto.
I wasn't "flamming" her i was talking facts about her she is a bad hokage and she's the weakest one too. Are you a pervert? I dont like a character by how big there boobs are i like them for there personality besides how can you like a fictional womans boobs. Tsunade would be dead by the end of this war.
Tsunade can summon a slug to drop slime on Neji and make him 10x slower than she puls him by the ponytail (scorpion style) and uppercuts him and he lands on spikes Lol Jk making fun of the Neji fanboy (Naruto9001)
The only thing that saved her was her Rebirth Genesis tech....Neji can and WILL stop the flow of her chakra....More than likely, She'll try to heal or unblock her clogged points through Rebirth Genesis causing a one of the two effects to happen:
a) Rebirth genesis takes effect, accurately unclogged her points correctly and carrying on the further results as we see in the manga against Madara....or,:shrug:
b) She activates rebirth genesis and it forces her chakra, causing damage to her clogged points.....damaging her in the process...:sy:
Either way the match could be indeed scary.....xdU_U
Tsunade can summon a slug to drop slime on Neji and make him 10x slower than she pulls him by the ponytail (scorpion style) and uppercuts him and he lands on spikes Lol Jk making fun of the Neji fanboy (Naruto9001)
I wasn't "flamming" her i was talking facts about her she is a bad hokage and she's the weakest one too. Are you a pervert? I dont like a character by how big there boobs are i like them for there personality besides how can you like a fictional womans boobs. Tsunade would be dead by the end of this war.
LMAO I lost ?!? How did I lose ?!? Create a poll and then say I lost.
BTW I'm pretty sure if Kishi made an episode where they fought Tsunade would murder Neji. Just because you think his rotation is indestructible doesn't mean sh!t. Neji can't go toe to toe with Oro, Madara or Kabuto so obviously Tsunade is superior. I'm not gonna go back and forth with you on what techniques she needs to use. I would just watch the fight and watch her boobs bounce as she beats Neji.
Im not mad but you obviously are flamming me because of a non existent manga character you got issues. Just because your hokage dosen't mean your invincible Naruto, Sasuke, Itach, Jiraya, Orochimaru, Kakashi and etc can all beat Tsunade but there not hokages. Im a man i can stay up as long as i want LOL but your a kid who has a bed time and who's moma tucks him in.
working under the the ideas provided by the databook. Their prowess in ninjutsu is the same albeit in they are strong in different areas. She is by far better at taijutsu in comparison to him. He is much better at casting genjutsu. They are of equal intellect. He is a whole tier faster than her. She has more stamina than him. He performs hand seals faster than she does.
Attack Prevention Technique: is pointless if Tsunade goes ahead and punches the surface Orochimaru has blended into
Binding Snake Glare Spell: Her natural strength was great enough to lift Gamabunta's sword, so ripping snakes shouldn't cause too much problems.
Body Flame Technique- Too slow and where would he go?
Body Shedding- Actually this is very useful. Orochimaru's body was healthy when Tsunade punched him before but he could not shed his skin because of his arms. So he had to quit the fight. Now he can afford being hit by Tsunade but apparently this jutsu takes a lot of chakra.
Five Elements Seal- Would require she had an even numbered seal on to be effective.
Formation of Ten Thousand Snakes- Problematic however this technique can be cancelled out by heavenly foot of Pain if acted upon immediately.
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Gathering of Snakes isn't useful because of the nature of Tsunade's attacks in combination with Orochimaru's soft physique technique. So she won't cut his body.
Hidden Shadow snake hands would work against Orochimaru if he tries to grab Tsunade with it as there'd only be a repeat like when he tried to grab her with his tongue. If he tries to poison her, her liver will regenerate and render the poison moot. Or she could use the antidote she has in her tools, which she'd probably have anyway because she worked with Oro for so long.
Living Corpse Reincarnation: He's not going to use this in the heat of battle but if he does Tsunade has the mental fortitude to attack while impaled, to attack with stomach and respiratory muscles cut, and to overcome a phobia in addition to her precise chakra control I see her breaking free. The obvious counter to this argument is Orochimaru has a 5 in genjutsu and she only has a 3. This is true but she also has better chakra control. It was stated that healing jutus require a lot of chakra and she managed to heal a whole village, while keeping up her transformation technique, and she had summoned Katsuyu which as we've seen with Jiraiya and Naruto large summons take considerable chakra. In the war she has healed her stomach twice (Susanoo Sword and 3 Yasaka Magatamas) and used creation rebirth to heal the wounds from the heavenly transfer technique, in addition to healing the other kages, and breaking through Susanoo and Madara's mokuton clone. Additionally it was also stated that Medical jutsu requires precise chakra control because if the chakra is not controlled effectively the patient can be killed or the justu is ineffective and Tsunade is hailed as the greatest living medic.
Summoning Gate and Triple Summoning Gate Rashomon: Kiba and Akamaru put a dent in the single gate in Part I. Tsunade breaks through it.
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Sword of Kusanagi: Longsword of the Sky- Tsunade needs only grab the sword. As long as it doesn't decapitate her she'll survive if she can regrow vital organs in her abdomen then she should be able to regrow limbs and digits.
Temporary Paralysis Technique- Iirc Genin Sasuke and Sakura overcame this technique.
Wind Release: Great Breakthrough -If Tsunade is using her chakra to stay on the ground like she did when Pein attacked the village (she was using it to counter shinra tensei) then I see her receiving injuries similar to the heavenly transfer technique which she'd heal.
Eight Branches is nothing but very large taijutsu taijutsu. Tsunade would only need to punch the heads as they attack and the damage recieved with byakougou.
Then there is Manda and Katsuya. Katsuya would prove useful against the 8 branches technique. Manda also had no jutsus he could bite and coil. For that reason he'd be defeated as well.
Body Pathway Derangement could be countered by perhaps a raiton cloak which Oro does not have and his taijutsu and stamina is less than Tsunade's so he could get caught by that.
She can fight similar to Kabuto evidenced by
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she wouldn't be able to compare their strength unless they're styles were similar. If Orochimaru got caught in a similar way to Tsunade then he would eventually need to shed his body.
Against her strength he would need to shed his body.
Against Katsuya's acid he would have to shed.
My conclusion Tsunade would win
The edos might cause a problem but we know Tsunade has a form of fuinjutsu as per her seal on her forehead. Apparently she's good enough at fuinjutsu to have to different techniques in one fuinjutsu. And Body Pathway Derangement would pose problems for Edos too. Given the fact that she is the oldest living Uzumaki we know with actual connections to members of her clan she probably has other sealing jutsus.
But the edos do pose an interesting problem. Though she may be able to remove the talisman Oro used to control them when blow to their heads. At which point they'd help her. and Oro would lose
Gai-
Tsunade's chakra reserves are huge. So if she enters Byakougou she doesn't need to see him he's going to try to Hirudora her... and she's gonna be back up and he's gonna go wtf? then try morning peacock. She'll get back up and he's going to be screwed. His strongest attack to date causes internal bleeding. Tsunade's punch causes this:
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Also with Tsunade's durability and her bloodline it would seem she could heal from Noon Tiger. Going 8 gates is suicide for him. Yes, he's faster than Tsunade after the gates but he can't hold the gates for extremely long periods of time and after he tries the 7th gate move he's too exhausted to push on.
Kakashi-
Kakashi's signature moves include Raikiri and Kamui. He has not been shown using Kamui expertly yet. Fighting for a day doesn't mean much if you aren't using chakra heavy skills and you Gai and other shinobi backing up against Opponents you were already soloing. Which means Kamui is usually a last resort for Kakashi. He has shown good trap setting skills with is lightening clones. Such as when he tricked one of pein's paths. He was capable of dodging Sakura though that isn't a very large feat as she didn't use and kicks or major ground strikes. He can ready movements with his sharigan but that takes an extra toll on him not being an uchiha. He carries no long weapons. Kakashi does have long range attacks via water dragon jutsu and his lightening hounds.
Tsunade strength is unparalleled. Kakashi wasn't much more dodgy than Kabuto and Kabuto took a blood pill and a soldier pill to aid him in the battle because Tsunade had cornered him. Orochimaru was able to keep up with 4 tails Naruto but after one punch from Tsunade called it quits iirc. In addition she has her chakra scapels, Katsuya, her disruption technique, her healing techniques, huge chakra reserves and the ability to alter the batttlefield with pure strength. I think we are underrating Tsunade's intelligence here. She's brilliant really, even beyond her medical field. Take the war with Pein for instance, she strategically sent Naruto away to get stronger rather than following the advice the advisers, rather than taking pein head on, she healed the entire village, she had Katsuya everywhere that way everyone could gain more info on Pein instantly. In the fight with Madara she devised an attack on Madara so that the other kages could attack him while he responded to her attack. When she was fighting kabuto and her lungs were messed up she pseudoparalyzed him so that she could heal. As per her rules for Medical Ninja she understands the strategies necessary to keep a team alive. She tricked Jiraiya into drinking a substance and played it off perfectly. In short she's not going to stand around and allow any attack. She's going to strategize.
So let's recap. Kakashi uses Lightening blade his hand is trapped in her and she kills him with a punch
Kakashi uses Kamui he may get her but she is a fairly small target that moves in very odd ways.
Kakashi summons ninja dogs... either she kills them or she summons katsuya
Kakashi uses lightening beast runner technique she dodges like she was with kabuto's attacks
kakashi uses lightening cutter he has to get close do so and when he does the technique requires both him and his clone if either is destroyed the technique is over aswell
Kakashi has done basic level genjutsu however people who have precise control over their chakra can stop their chakra and end the genjutsu. In addition to fact that she was able to easily undue to the damage done by Itachi's tsukyomi.
Kakashi's water dragon jutsu may give her some problems but for how long can he hold her off at a long distance. He doesn't combine his attacks so I doubt a water dragon kamui combo is going to happen nor is a lightening beast kamui combo .
Based upon the ease of which she is able to treat sharingan related injuries and she lived during the time in which the Uchiha had their power she is most likely fully informed on the sharingan's power. I am also certaint her grandfather and granduncle would have warned her of the dangers.
Kakashi also does not stray away from taijutsu fights which is to is his detriment. Beyond that the only ones who know of Creation Rebirth are Kabuto, Naruto and Shizune and her anbu guards. Everyone else is dead or weren't there. And only the four other kage and possibly Kabuto know about Byakougou. Furthermore only Kabuto knows about her body pathway derangement technique.
So against Body Derangement Jutsu Kakashi has nothing
Against Heavenly Kick of Pain he can only dodge
Against her punches he can only dodge
Against Creation Rebirth or Byakougou he has to land Kamui on her head.
Against chakra scapels he has nothing
Against Katsuya who can crush him or melt him he has nothing
You don't blitz Tsunade. Kabuto tried from underground. Raikiri is extremely loud if you remember correctly so he won't sneak up on her with that. She won't fall for headhunter jutsu. And When Tsunade is out for your blood I think we've seen that she stays in constant motion. In addition Kakashi has no idea how durable she is she tanked the Heavenly Transfer Technique, the Susanoo Sword, the Sword of Kusanagi thrice, Yasaka Magatama, Shinra Tensei full force.
Very Simply Kakashi can't take her on. His one ace in the hole is using Kamui against Tsunade when she doesn't stand still and she fights in awkward positions.
When Katsuyu enters the fight what the hell is Kakashi going to do? Let's say he does Kamui Tsunade, Katsuyu is still there and there is no way in hell he will Kamui Katsuyu and Katsuyu would counter katon with acid. He really couldn't kill Katsuyu. So his one ace in the hole fails to Tsunade's full power.
and arguably Base Jiraiya. SM isn't really an issue as it's unlikely she'll stop attacking long enough for SM to be entered. But it depends on starting distance in this battle. We've seen Tsunade move her body faster than it took Jiraiya to form a hand seal. If he ends up in a situation like the Mifune/Hanzo fight he loses.
She loses to these people but with the exception of Jinchuurikis it isn't rape.
Itachi-
Allow me to lay out my case.
Amaterasu- Hitting Tsunade with it is a bad idea because the next time she goes to attack him, he'd be screwed trying to put out the black flames she just put on him. If you think well Susanoo will protect him, the flames that were on Sasuke's susanoo were not attacking it but as Mei's lava showed, Susanoo melts and if the black flames are attacking and the flames are hotter than Mei's lava Susanoo will melt and Itachi will still be screwed. Amaterasu suppression seems like it takes a lot out of you based on Sasuke's response when he fought Bee. You may argue she'd be in too much Pain to fight back. But I don't think so. She was completely impaled and continued to fight, 3 yasaka magatamas at point blank range didn't stop her, nor did hemophobia in conjunction with the sword of kusanagi's three wounds and Kabuto cutting her abdomen, respiratory, and bicep muscles.
Amaterasu covered Susanoo Tsunade may not be able to dodge Amaterasu, but She can rip off or Medically Cut off her arm or leg or whatever. And guessing by how she regrew all those organs she lost when her entire stomach was impaled she can probably regrow them. Furthermore when know she has an incredible mental fortitude that allows her to work through pain as shown by her defending Naruto and launching an attack after being Stabbed by the sword of kusanagi and sliced by it.
Tsukuyomi- Firstly I believe she has the mental fortitude to withstand Tsukuyomi considering she overcame her paralyzing hemophobia with sheer will power.Further more we all know that Tsukuyomi is genjutsu. Of all characters living she has the best chakra control. We know her chakra control is great because she says healing requires a lot of chakra. Yet she healed an entire village.
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You may now say Itachi said only Closely related Uchihas can break Tsukuyomi. If you consider that Itachi lies to protect his brother and he plotted for his brother to get his eyes. Then if anyone knew this wasn't true that would put Sasuke in danger. Thus we're not sure if Itachi's words are true. As she can treat Tsukuyomi.
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Judging by how easily it was cured. I say she has a pretty good knowledge about how Tsukuyomi works and how exactly it affects the brain. In addition we know she lived to meet her Grandfather and GrandUncle. Her Grandfather fought against Madara several times so no doubt he taught her not to get trapped in Genjutsu and not to look an Uchiha in the eyes. Furthermore I'm sure he would have showed her a technique similar to Gai's sharigan avoidance. Given Gai isn't that smart. (He thought Kisame was his true self.) I see know reason Tsunade can't do the same. And we don't know how Uchiha genjutsu's affect people of the Senju clan. Itachi probably never fought an Senju and wouldn't have known whether they were capable of breaking it or not. And I imagine Madara and the Elder son of the So6P would have had an easier time if Senju's fell pray to their Genjutsus. In addition a mini katsuya on her shoulder would be able to inject chakra into Tsunade's system.
Some of you may say well the other Kages helped. My answer is that they didn't help with this
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You guys may say A full susanoo is stronger, but if one her punches creates such damage to a version of Susanoo it's really only a matter of strikes til full Susanoo gives way. We also know that Raikage punched through Susanoo's skelton (with Oonoki's help) after Mei melted it with lava
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Tsunade has Katsuya to provide melting via acid and Tsunade is still physically stronger than the A and Oonoki combo (as only her hits actually broke Susanoo's ribs when he reformed them though A and Oonoki tried) she should be able to do the same.When you add in the fact that we know Susanoo is weak to acid (as demonstrated by Mei whose acid wasn't melting surrounding rocks) and we know Tsunade has a summon with acid strong enough to melt through rock, and we know the summon can split herself many times enough to cover konoha, there is no reason those smaller katsuyus can't launch a coordinated acid attack that would melt Susanoo. And we know that a melting Susanoo is easier to break through.
Fire Release- Her skin will be burned but it's tankable.
Yasaka Magatama- She literally tanked three of them right after being impaled.
Itachi I would say wins only because of his acquisition of the yata mirror and the sword of Totsuka
However, if Itachi has taken her as lightly as his fans do and doesn't use those two items then Tsunade can take him, with her strength, her summon, her medical knowledge, her regeneration, her poison, and her Pathway Disturbance. If at any point any of her attacks make contact with his actual body then He's done. The fact of the matter remains Tsunade is a top tier shinobi with the counters to the sharingan. Even still Tsunade may be able to overwhelm him with Katsuyu. The Yata Mirror only covers one side at a time but Katsuyu can literally attack from every side at once. And if she manages to make a whole in Susanoo Itachi is screwed. He doesn't have the stamina to try and get rid of the entire summon. But regardless with the spiritual weapons its most likely Tsunade will lose high difficulty.
Sasuke- Pretty much the same as Itachi, but his saving grace instead of spiritual weapons is Susanoo arrows, more specifically a Susanoo arrow to the head.
Naruto- yeah no.... Unless he's stripped of Kurama she gets curb stomped.
but she's is the second most powerful shinobi in the village behind Naruto.
My point she is not some vastly under powered character. She is a kage for good reason. She's powerful. She's intelligent. She's good in times of crisis. She's a good kage.
LMAO I lost ?!? How did I lose ?!? Create a poll and then say I lost.
BTW I'm pretty sure if Kishi made an episode where they fought Tsunade would murder Neji. Just because you think his rotation is indestructible doesn't mean sh!t. Neji can't go toe to toe with Oro, Madara or Kabuto so obviously Tsunade is superior. I'm not gonna go back and forth with you on what techniques she needs to use. I would just watch the fight and watch her boobs bounce as she beats Neji.
Well saying she can't use her slugs is like saying Neji cant use his Byakugan. That's what she is. She is the Slug princess or whatever she is. That's like if Sasuke fought Neji without his Sharingan cause it's overkill. If Raikage fought Neji without either of his arms cause just one arm is overkill. Your trying too hard for Neji
ROFLING jumping while doing a rotation? what is he a spinning top? wake up Tsunade can win easily. I'm glad your not the one writing the manga or we would have Tenten as hokage.
Tsunade is not stupid, she won't just walk into a triagram attack and get all her chakra blocked, also Tsunade has chakra stored that could restore her chakra points if anything happened, doesn't even need to do any hand signs to heal herself. Furthermore Tsunade has her slug summon, Neji has no contracts whatsoever. All it would take is 1 punch to beat Neji and he would have no way to recover, meanwhile even if neji lands a blow on tsunade she can still heal herself unless every chakra point in her body is blocked and even then she can release her stored up chakra and regenerate without the chakra points!
Well saying she can't use her slugs is like saying Neji cant use his Byakugan. That's what she is. She is the Slug princess or whatever she is. That's like if Sasuke fought Neji without his Sharingan cause it's overkill. If Raikage fought Neji without either of his arms cause just one arm is overkill. Your trying too hard for Neji
I guess your mom reads you Naruto manga as a bedtime story. Go to sleep kidd. Ok, thnks goodnight bye.
