[Theory] How Kabuto Can Out Smart Itachi

[The Eye]

Okay im not sure if you guys remember when tobi asked kabuto how to release the jutsu and he said

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Something tells me using these hand seals will create something else? And not release the jutsu as he said. So maybe in doing this against itachi he can counter something else perhaps? :shrug:

 

[alexu9696]

good theory .. but that if kabuto has lied to tobi .... so who knows ?

 

[The Eye]

Kabuto has become a sneaky snake, so i wouldnt trust kabuto one bit.

 

[Zlad]

I don't trust him

 

[Yokima Yagame]

Okay im not sure if you guys remember when tobi asked kabuto how to release the jutsu and he said

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Something tells me using these hand seals will create something else? And not release the jutsu as he said. So maybe in doing this against itachi he can counter something else perhaps? :shrug:

even if he does make the hand seals ,Itachi put a genjutsu on the Edo Tnsei,so that won't work ,Kabuto allready knew that he can't seal Itachi back ,he has to put another kunai seal in his head to do that

 

[nburza]

Kabuto can not escape

 

[enditallsin]

I think your on to something..never trust a bastard like kabuto, even itachis admitted that he was a better lair than even himself, so i wouldn't be surprise if this is the case.

 

[Sarutobi Sasuke]

He can take advantage of Izanami by remaining in the loop with the hope that Madara and Muu finishes their battle with the Kage's. He can then order Madara and Muu to come to his aid and wrap things up with the Uchiha brothers.

 

[enditallsin]

oh and + rep for paying attention.

 

[Inception]

Okay im not sure if you guys remember when tobi asked kabuto how to release the jutsu and he said

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Something tells me using these hand seals will create something else? And not release the jutsu as he said. So maybe in doing this against itachi he can counter something else perhaps? :shrug:

That's only if Tobi tries to release the technique. Itachi is forcing Kabuto to release it himself while he's in a genjutsu. There's a big difference between the two.

And he did not lie about releasing the technique. He's certain that Tobi's genjutsu won't work on him. As seen clearly from Itachi vs. Kabuto, visual genjutsus have no effect on Kabuto.

 

[psukkar]

the better question is how is kishi going to salavage the rest of the manga.

If edo tenseis falls before madara fights the fox/naruto or meets tobi what was the point in all this. Also we may never get a falshback of his fight with hasihrama.

 

[Owarij]

That's only if Tobi tries to release the technique. Itachi is forcing Kabuto to release it himself while he's in a genjutsu. There's a big difference between the two.

And he did not lie about releasing the technique. He's certain that Tobi's genjutsu won't work on him. As seen clearly from Itachi vs. Kabuto, visual genjutsus have no effect on Kabuto.

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The lie was for tobi, this is itachi forcing kabuto to end edo tensei, he can't trick his way out of this 1

 

[psukkar]

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The lie was for tobi, this is itachi forcing kabuto to end edo tensei, he can't trick his way out of this 1

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what u mean itachi isnt forcng anything, if anything itachi has even kabuto all the time in wrold to figure a way around this jutsu. And before u say anything, yes this jutsu can be countered just like any other tech. Izanagi was countered by keeping an eye on the timing of when the jutsu begins and ends. I'd imagaine izanami has simular ways to counter it. This jutsu wont last forever. Kabuto could just tank it so to speak.


Its still up to kabuto, he can just kill himself if he wants. I'm actually hoping this happens has we dont actually want edo tensei to end right now.

 

[Inception]

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what u mean itachi isnt forcng anything, if anything itachi has even kabuto all the time in wrold to figure a way around this jutsu. And before u say anything, yes this jutsu can be countered just like any other tech. Izanagi was countered by keeping an eye on the timing of when the jutsu begins and ends. I'd imagaine izanami has simular ways to counter it. This jutsu wont last forever. Kabuto could just tank it so to speak.


Its still up to kabuto, he can just kill himself if he wants. I'm actually hoping this happens has we dont actually want edo tensei to end right now.

Itachi is making Kabuto release the technique with Izanami. A genjutsu that Kabuto fell into regardless of his immunity. He has to choose to release Edo Tensei or go through the loop over and over again.

Tobi would control Kabuto and form hand signs to release the technique but that won't work . Why? Because Tobi would need to make eye contact in order to catch Kabuto in a genjutsu. Kabuto is immune to visual genjutsu.

^ This is why Kabuto told Tobi how to release the technique because even if Tobi knew how to release it, he wouldn't be able to simply because Kabuto can't be controlled by visual genjutsu. He was certain that Itachi wouldn't be able to catch him in a genjutsu but guess what happened? Izanami.

I hope you see the difference.

And no one is saying it can't be countered. The user of Izanami himself said that every technique has a weakness.

 

[psukkar]

Itachi is making Kabuto release the technique with Izanami. A genjutsu that Kabuto fell into regardless of his immunity. He has to choose to release Edo Tensei or go through the loop over and over again.

Tobi would control Kabuto and form hand signs to release the technique but that won't work . Why? Because Tobi would need to make eye contact in order to catch Kabuto in a genjutsu. Kabuto is immune to visual genjutsu.

^ This is why Kabuto told Tobi how to release the technique because even if Tobi knew how to release it, he wouldn't be able to simply because Kabuto can't be controlled by visual genjutsu. He was certain that Itachi wouldn't be able to catch him in a genjutsu but guess what happened? Izanami.

I hope you see the difference.

And no one is saying it can't be countered. The user of Izanami himself said that every technique has a weakness.

i see the difference, but in either case no one is forcing kabuto to anything litterally speaking. So kabuto doesnt have to do release the tech, he could kill himself or just find a way around the jutsu.

The fact that sasuke and karin(two big noobs) figured out how to survive iznagi means anything is possible. And since kabuto is much smarter than sasuke and is always compared to kahashi in intellingence, id say prepare to see a come back from kabuto.

also what makes u think tobi cant do izanami?

who was itachi"s mentor again? oh thats right tobi

 

[MilwaukeegHost]

He can take advantage of Izanami by remaining in the loop with the hope that Madara and Muu finishes their battle with the Kage's. He can then order Madara and Muu to come to his aid and wrap things up with the Uchiha brothers.

Hmmmph.

You are assuming that the "time" in Izanami is the same as in real life. Remember Itachi's other Genjutsu alters time--3 days in it was literally a moment in real life. If this is the case... Stalling an hour in real life could be YEARS in the genjutsu. FYI




-gHost Senju, K.U.S.H. Sage

 

[th1s1guysays]

Hmmmph.

You are assuming that the "time" in Izanami is the same as in real life. Remember Itachi's other Genjutsu alters time--3 days in it was literally a moment in real life. If this is the case... Stalling an hour in real life could be YEARS in the genjutsu. FYI




-gHost Senju, K.U.S.H. Sage

THIS!!!

I keep telling people this and they ignore it! Time is much different in there! So even if kabuto did try to just wait it out, 24 hours would be an eternity!

 

[Honord Sage]

If Kabuto dose escape first thing He must do is go back to school and learn to stop underestimating His opponent and stop gloating as if He is God's gift to the world and earn His powers the old fashion way, work for them not injected in Himself. But being a big dummy as He is He will continue to fail again and again.