Wait Izanami > Frog Song... You mad Bro?

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Looks like Izanami is greater than frog song. It takes less time to activate and you don't even need to go sage mode.
You don't need SM for frog song, one only need to summon ma and pa and it can be used.

Frog song also doesn't have the downside of losing an eye.
 

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Did you even read this arc? Izanami takes quite a while to use. Itachi said he was preparing thetechnique like 4 chapters ago. Frog Confrontation Chant takes a bit to build up, but not THAT long and it has a similar effect to Izanami in that it renders the opponent unconscious, but also paralyses them too. I don't think it can even be broken out of. And then Izanami makes one eye blind.

WHAT'CHU TALKIN' BOUT WILLIS?
 

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You only need to summon ma and pa. Those are the two who use the jutsu, the ninja has nothing to do with it.
What's your point? Even Shima & Fukasaku need to gather Senchakra in order to use it. Izanami in itself is more powerful, on top of the shorter preparation time. We only saw it once and don't even know what else it's capable of, yet it's already absoulutely amazing. Furthermore it won't be noticed, unlike the song.

On the other hand, the price of losing an eye is quite some drawback.
 
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Of course not if Jiraya wants to run off and prepare sage mode, Itachi will be preparing Izanami. Finish half early and then boom trapped in preparing sage mode forever. muahahhaaha
but while he prepares sage mode he calls ma and pa and they start to prepare frog song too and it has a bigger range(i think), so itachi will get caught firt if you want to put it like that
 

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What's your point? Even Shima & Fukasaku need to gather Senchakra in order to use it. Izanami in itself is more powerful, on top of the shorter preparation time. We only saw it once and don't even know what it's capable of, yet it's already absoulutely amazing.
My point was that you don't need SM to use it. I also never said frog song was more powerful, only that it doesn't have the downside of losing an eye from its use.

As for the preparation time between the two ma and pa can use it very quickly as shown when they used it to aid Naruto in his fight with Pain.

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Itachi had already prepped izanami before battle and it still took a while to activate.
 

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Did you even read this arc? Izanami takes quite a while to use. Itachi said he was preparing thetechnique like 4 chapters ago. Frog Confrontation Chant takes a bit to build up, but not THAT long and it has a similar effect to Izanami in that it renders the opponent unconscious, but also paralyses them too. I don't think it can even be broken out of. And then Izanami makes one eye blind.

WHAT'CHU TALKIN' BOUT WILLIS?
Those were all flashbacks. Izanami takes alot less time to activate. Flashbacks are instaneous to the person having them. We will see this in the anime.

but while he prepares sage mode he calls ma and pa and they start to prepare frog song too and it has a bigger range(i think), so itachi will get caught firt if you want to put it like that
He needs ma and pa to prepare sage mode. If he chooses to prepare Frog song first, Izanami will be already activated before he finishes. Causing him to prepare for it forever.
 

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My point was that you don't need SM to use it. I also never said frog song was more powerful, only that it doesn't have the downside of losing an eye from its use.

As for the preparation time between the two ma and pa can use it very quickly as shown when they used it to aid Naruto in his fight with Pain.

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Itachi had already prepped izanami before battle and it still took a while to activate.
Itachi already prepared Izanami before the battle? What are you talking about?

Now, you absoulutely failed to realize that this isn't the illusion used against pain. The powerful Genjutsu which is generally known as Frog Song is actually called 'Magen: Gama Rinsho'. Senpo: Kawazunaki is an entirely different technique, I'm not even sure if it's an illusion.

After Pain nailed Naruto to the ground, it's clearly visible that Shima & Fukasaku need to gather Senchakra in order to use Gama Rinsho.
 
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