When did sasuke surpass Kakashi?

Sasuke surpassed kakashi when

  • He defeaded oro

    Votes: 67 20.8%
  • He got ms

    Votes: 82 25.5%
  • He got ems

    Votes: 65 20.2%
  • He fought itachi

    Votes: 39 12.1%
  • I still believe Kakashi>Sasuke

    Votes: 69 21.4%

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Don't really see the difference. Danzo said his genjutsus were weak and nothing to compare with Itachis

Maybe he can't dodge, but he can protect himself. :)
Sasuke said he put danzo in a weak genjutsu to see if he could fall for it, he didnt put shee or bee in a weak one
 

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Kakashi cant doge Amaterasu or Genjutsu he dead
Like i've said he can protect himself, and Sasukes genjutsus are weak, even Kakashi has better genjutsus than him xd
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So Kakashi could put him in this genjutsu and kill him with Kamui. :)
 

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Like i've said he can protect himself, and Sasukes genjutsus are weak, even Kakashi has better genjutsus than him xd
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So Kakashi could put him in this genjutsu and kill him with Kamui. :)
Who cares what you said Kakashi cant beat sasuke he miss his shot when sasuke went blind now he to weak.
 

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it was tsyukomy dude something sasuke cannot use do read the fight between kakshi and itachi in shippuden. and think with physics too pull something out you have to exert force enough to ovcercome the gravitaional pull so by lightening the holder you can also reduce the amount of force required means the acceleration will be greater. but in this case you are the force you applying it as push not pull
Sasuke can use tsukiyomi danzo said so in their fight.
 

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Who cares what you said Kakashi cant beat sasuke he miss his shot when sasuke went blind now he to weak.
I've not said Kakashi can't beat Sasuke. I've said Sasuke has surpassed him at that time, but Kakashi still has a chance of winning even if i see Sasuke chance of winning higher(60% or maybe more). But now that he has EMS, Kakashi has pretty much no chance.
 
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I've not said Kakashi can't beat Sasuke. I've said Sasuke has surpassed him at that time, but Kakashi still has a chance of winning even if i see Sasuke chance of winning higher(60% or maybe more). But now that he has EMS, Kakashi has pretty much no chance.
Good Job bogard you realize EMS Sasuke would owned kakashi +rep
 

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Good Job bogard you realize EMS Sasuke would owned kakashi +rep
Yes, i've realised that not having too much chakra is really a great handicap in this fight.xd Sasuke in the contrary seems not to having too much side effects of his jutsu since he has EMS and he could spamm it continuously.
 

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I'd say when he defeated Deidara. Both Naruto and Sasuke have defeated Akatsuki members of notable power. Naruto beat Kakuzu, high power and experience, and Pain/Nagato, powerful doujutsu user. Sasuke beat Deidara, high power and crazy jutsu, and Itachi, powerful doujutsu user. And before you say that Itachi wasn't going for the kill, remember that neither was Nagato...

Point is both Naruto and Sasuke seemingly surpassed Kakashi when they defeated their first akatsuki members.
didn't deidara kill himself and itachi the same
 

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well if itachi was near blind then you have a point.and your evidence kakashi can open the gates if he needs to he could match a v2 jink in speed dude thats saying a lot. he uses amatersu kakashi uses kamui both eye techniques and by your scenario should be possible so the end result both dies
firstly, we don't know how many gates kakashi can open...
Secondly even if he could open a few gates it still wouldn't be enough to escape amaterasu... Raikage clearly stated he was the fastest ninja in the narutoverse before the rise of km naruto yet he barely escaped it... Take a look at this

the flames materialized even before the raikage moved despite having insane reflexes and speed... If he had been even a split second late, he'd be covered in flames... Kakashi is no where near raikage's level of speed, he has a zero chance of out running it maybe using a shadow clone he could escape.
Thirdly, how will kakashi kamui sasuke?? Susanoo completely surrounds the user, do you realize he has to teleport susanoo first before he could teleport sasuke?? He doesn't have enough chakra... Mind you this isn't a versus thread, this is just to know when sasuke surpassed his sensei... I think ms sasuke is stronger than kakashi... In ninjutsu sasuke is clearly better..., in genjutsu again i'd put sasuke above kakashi in genjutsu any day... The only area kakashi could be better is probably taijutsu which we're still not certain of considering a near blind sasuke kept up with him for a while.
 

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Sasuke is stronger than Kakashi, but still Kakashi would win. He knows how to fight, and does not misuse any jutsu by spamming... I would accept Sasuke as stronger, if he has the skills to beat a PAIN ! :) Nope, i don't think so...
 
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