Sasuke's MS "Spamming"

[ANBU Kakashi23]

lol just saying. If Gaara didn't have his sand he wouldn't be much. Just an example of how powerful ninja have unique abilities that make them special.

taking away gaara's sand is different, he uses sand like other ninjas use their body, without it hes literally nothing, thats the equivalent of taking away lees taijutsu, but i get what youre saying

Its not like he no longer analyze things. In fight against Danzo, he outsmarted him.

i attribute that more to danzo failing at remembering how many eyes he disturbingly had implanted into his arm, just seems like something he should remember instead of having to check every single time he used izanagi :shrug:

and if use the same technique twice against a uchiha youre pushing it, over 10 times and danzo sealed his fate

but sasuke took advantage so ill give that to him

 

[Q of the Sharingan]

Fair points but Itachi literally gave MS to Sasuke. And Itachi controlled the entire fight between the two of them. He was never in any real danger. Naruto actually could have died with Kurama or gone all nine tailed or whatever. I totally respect Sasuke for his chidori manipulation summonings, and all that other stuff. I prefer all that stuff. Every since MS he just uses Susanoo or amatarasu. I am personally getting very sick of them. When Itachi was alive he didn't have to use his MS techs all the freaking time. IMO I just feel like Sasuke is turning into a one trick pony with the MS stuff. I would like him to mix it up a bit more.

Itachi is using nothing but MS techs against Kabuto because he is that good. He even used them against Kakashi, with just Tsukyomi. He used Amaterasu on Jiraiya's toad stomach to escape. He even used them first thing against Sasuke with Tsukyomi and then when he was losing with firball jutsu, with Amaterasu. Itachi has always used his MS techs in his battles with strong opponents.

And about the whole control the fight thing. I don't think Itachi expected Sasuke to resist Tsukyomi. He built Sasuke up his entire life and didn't face him until he thought he was strong enough to actually put up a good fight. Fact is. Itachi was going hard to push Sasuke to at least near death to get Oro out. Instead what he got was almost dying and failing at his own goal when Sasuke pulled out Kirin.

 

[jtolliver87]

I understand what you mean but by the same token we are also aware that sasuke has a million more techniques but he bypasses those and goes straight to MS spam...there is no feel out period when he faces a new opponent he says hmmmmm susanoo or amaterasu thats the extent of his skill now

 

[Q of the Sharingan]

I understand what you mean but by the same token we are also aware that sasuke has a million more techniques but he bypasses those and goes straight to MS spam...there is no feel out period when he faces a new opponent he says hmmmmm susanoo or amaterasu thats the extent of his skill now

I'll take that but when he did start out with taijutsu or other things he nearly died three times, twice with Bee and once with A. If I was fighting kage level ninja and nearly dying without my strongest jutsu, I'd go straight to them too. He didn't use them on the samurai or Sakura (lol). He did when Kakashi showed up tho. Even Kakashi had his MS up when going up against Sasuke. No holding back in the Narutoverse now

 

[jtolliver87]

touche but now that he has EMS that shouldnt be a problem because he is incredibly OP although kishi hasnt shown us the full extent of his power......i guess my reasoning behind my statements are that although naruto has been OP for a while he never starts off a fight with RS or FRS etc etc or even sage mode for that matter he feels out his opponent then decides which route to go..sasuke is incredibly gifted but if i was new to naruto and saw sasuke for the first time against A or danzo id be like this guy sucks he can only do the same moves over and over

 

[ShadowAnimal11]

touche but now that he has EMS that shouldnt be a problem because he is incredibly OP although kishi hasnt shown us the full extent of his power......i guess my reasoning behind my statements are that although naruto has been OP for a while he never starts off a fight with RS or FRS etc etc or even sage mode for that matter he feels out his opponent then decides which route to go..sasuke is incredibly gifted but if i was new to naruto and saw sasuke for the first time against A or danzo id be like this guy sucks he can only do the same moves over and over

Exactly. Pretty much all I'm trying to say. And what Q said about Itachi and his MS techs. While he was alive he only used them here and there while also using some other stuff. But while fighting Kabuto neither has a choice but to use MS obviously. I would like Sasuke to use some of his other techs more. Mix it up and feel out his enemy before blazing ahead. Now it's just the same two things over and over.

 

[jtolliver87]

Exactly. Pretty much all I'm trying to say. And what Q said about Itachi and his MS techs. While he was alive he only used them here and there while also using some other stuff. But while fighting Kabuto neither has a choice but to use MS obviously. I would like Sasuke to use some of his other techs more. Mix it up and feel out his enemy before blazing ahead. Now it's just the same two things over and over.

oh well hopefully when sasuke faces naruto they start off with a taijutsu battle

 

[Q of the Sharingan]

Now Naruto starts with his latest and greatest form. It went from SM to BM and has always went straight to these in his latest fights. The last time he didn't go straight to them was with Kakuzu and that is because he didn't have them. In the fight he did go straight with rasenshuriken (after getting a feel for Kakuzu with some clones, genius idea btw). Sasuke goes straight in with MS techs and Naruto with his transformations. They are similar in almost all ways, and that is what Kishi has been trying to portray.

 

[ShadowAnimal11]

oh well hopefully when sasuke faces naruto they start off with a taijutsu battle

Yeah. And through around some regular ninjutsu and some clever battle tactics. Something to make it exciting before jumping right into Susanno/amatarsu vs Bijuu mode battle.

 

[Ngylle]

Agreed!
People only say that because they hate sasuke, all they do is to find whatever he does to making look bad, just because of a child hate that they dont even know about..

Naruto is the #1 spawmer of this serie, no one spawm shadow clone or rasengan like naruto or kyuby power.

 

[Q of the Sharingan]

oh well hopefully when sasuke faces naruto they start off with a taijutsu battle

they probably will. Like how they went for a rasengan vs chidori clash when they lost saw each other but with more flare

 

[ShadowAnimal11]

Now Naruto starts with his latest and greatest form. It went from SM to BM and has always went straight to these in his latest fights. The last time he didn't go straight to them was with Kakuzu and that is because he didn't have them. In the fight he did go straight with rasenshuriken (after getting a feel for Kakuzu with some clones, genius idea btw). Sasuke goes straight in with MS techs and Naruto with his transformations. They are similar in almost all ways, and that is what Kishi has been trying to portray.

Excuse the double post but I wanted to say that IMO there is a little bit of a difference between Sasuke and Naruto.

Naruto has shown a bit more finesse to his various modes. Like with pain the whole FRS transformation bit. And his different tactics he has had to use versus the edo's and what not.

Sasuke just uses Amatarasu or Susanno and thats it. Nothing else to it. No thinking about what he is doing just throwing out his strongest stuff without a second thought. Hoping whatever will stick.

Oh wait. Nevermind. Not a double post. Ignore the first few words there xd

 

[jtolliver87]

Agreed!
People only say that because they hate sasuke, all they do is to find whatever he does to making look bad, just because of a child hate that they dont even know about..

Naruto is the #1 spawmer of this serie, no one spawm shadow clone or rasengan like naruto or kyuby power.

honestly tell me the last time you've seen sasuke use something besides susanoo or amaterasu....yes naruto spams rasengan but that isnt his first move.....he spams kage bushin but what normally happens is the enemy stands there and laughs saying thats not good enough and blows up the clones....then naruto begins to construct a strategy while sasuke starts off a battle saying susanoo then he gets pwned and says amaterasu plain and simple

 

[Q of the Sharingan]

Excuse the double post but I wanted to say that IMO there is a little bit of a difference between Sasuke and Naruto.

Naruto has shown a bit more finesse to his various modes. Like with pain the whole FRS transformation bit. And his different tactics he has had to use versus the edo's and what not.

Sasuke just uses Amatarasu or Susanno and thats it. Nothing else to it. No thinking about what he is doing just throwing out his strongest stuff without a second thought. Hoping whatever will stick.

He wasn't just throwing out stuff. A's chakra grew to ridiculous levels so he tried to take him out with Amaterasu. He then realized he can't keep up with him, so he covered his Susanoo with Amaterasu. With Danzo, he realized early on that he had to keep up a constant offense with to make sure that Danzo's Izanagi ran out. He even used a diversionary genjutsu to make Danzo think he won. That battle was awesome to me. I admit that Naruto's fights build more into what he is thinking and he does move more, he has to with his style. That makes things more exciting. Getting a reader hooked into the thoughts of the main character in a battle. Sasuke's style is more immobile but, to me, still exciting.

 

[jtolliver87]

He wasn't just throwing out stuff. A's chakra grew to ridiculous levels so he tried to take him out with Amaterasu. He then realized he can't keep up with him, so he covered his Susanoo with Amaterasu. With Danzo, he realized early on that he had to keep up a constant offense with to make sure that Danzo's Izanagi ran out. He even used a diversionary genjutsu to make Danzo think he won. That battle was awesome to me. I admit that Naruto's fights build more into what he is thinking and he does move more, he has to with his style. That makes things more exciting. Getting a reader hooked into the thoughts of the main character in a battle. Sasuke's style is more immobile but, to me, still exciting.

im not saying his fights arent good im saying they are disappointing due to the fact that WE KNOW he knows how to do more than that...thats all i like sasuke but i dnt like his fb's on the base thats all

 

[Q of the Sharingan]

im not saying his fights arent good im saying they are disappointing due to the fact that WE KNOW he knows how to do more than that...thats all i like sasuke but i dnt like his fb's on the base thats all

True anybodies fanboys are annoying. Just irrational, illogical babble about how their favorite character can annihilate anybody who steps up.

 

[ShadowAnimal11]

He wasn't just throwing out stuff. A's chakra grew to ridiculous levels so he tried to take him out with Amaterasu. He then realized he can't keep up with him, so he covered his Susanoo with Amaterasu. With Danzo, he realized early on that he had to keep up a constant offense with to make sure that Danzo's Izanagi ran out. He even used a diversionary genjutsu to make Danzo think he won. That battle was awesome to me. I admit that Naruto's fights build more into what he is thinking and he does move more, he has to with his style. That makes things more exciting. Getting a reader hooked into the thoughts of the main character in a battle. Sasuke's style is more immobile but, to me, still exciting.

But it's the same two things over and over again! It is just throwing em out there especially with Danzo. The trick with covering himself with Amatarsu wasn't bad I guess but it still wasn't that impressive to me. And even with all of his tricks Sasuke would have died when he fought Danzo if not for Karin and would have died at the summit without Tobi.
Naruto genrally does things himself without help. And his techs are again more refined and different in someway every time. I feel like I watch the same fight over again when I watch a Sasuke fight. All I'm saying is that I wish he would stop only using MS techs and use some of his other stuff as well. It would make it much more interesting. And use some tactics and thinking like he used to do.

 

[Q of the Sharingan]

But it's the same two things over and over again! It is just throwing em out there especially with Danzo. The trick with covering himself with Amatarsu wasn't bad I guess but it still wasn't that impressive to me. And even with all of his tricks Sasuke would have died when he fought Danzo if not for Karin and would have died at the summit without Tobi.
Naruto genrally does things himself without help. And his techs are again more refined and different in someway every time. I feel like I watch the same fight over again when I watch a Sasuke fight. All I'm saying is that I wish he would stop only using MS techs and use some of his other stuff as well. It would make it much more interesting. And use some tactics and thinking like he used to do.

That is like saying that you want to see Naruto go into a fight straight base. He would get demolished, mass shadow clones or not, against the strong people we have seen lately. If Sasuke goes in without using MS techs, the same would happen to him. Naruto was saved by Hinata in the fight with Pein. If she hadn't interfered, he would have never went 6 tails and put Pain on the ropes. He was captured before that. When his clone went up against the third raikage, he was screwed if the rubber guy didn't help him out. Both characters have had help from others in their tough fights

Also Karin didn't do anything. Sasuke already realized that Danzo's immortality came from his eyes. She only got in the way by being taken hostage. Yes, tobi helped. He was against all the Kage in a small room. He was screwed. He is not edo Madara lol.

 

[Ngylle]

honestly tell me the last time you've seen sasuke use something besides susanoo or amaterasu....yes naruto spams rasengan but that isnt his first move.....he spams kage bushin but what normally happens is the enemy stands there and laughs saying thats not good enough and blows up the clones....then naruto begins to construct a strategy while sasuke starts off a battle saying susanoo then he gets pwned and says amaterasu plain and simple

In Bee Fight, sasuke only used amataresu 1 time!
In Raikage vs Sasuke, he used amataresu 1 time! to hit raikage and the second time to defend himself against the Raikage's super fast attack.

If that is the case i dont hear you saying how Raikage spawn his Raiton Armor??

Againts Gara it was Eton!.

to Mei he had to defend himself against the acid fog.

Againts Danzo he had to keep it activated, Danzo had extra lives.
I dont Hear you Saying how Danzo spawne izanagi or how minato spawn Harishim!

Dude, have you ever seen naruto not using his Kyuby Chakra or KM or Broken Mode and Rasengan, he has been spawming that thing like there is not tomorrow.

After naruto got KM he spawned it the all freaking war! and now Naruto Broken Mode..

 

[ShadowAnimal11]

That is like saying that you want to see Naruto go into a fight straight base. He would get demolished, mass shadow clones or not, against the strong people we have seen lately. If Sasuke goes in without using MS techs, the same would happen to him. Naruto was saved by Hinata in the fight with Pein. If she hadn't interfered, he would have never went 6 tails and put Pain on the ropes. He was captured before that. When his clone went up against the third raikage, he was screwed if the rubber guy didn't help him out. Both characters have had help from others in their tough fights

Also Karin didn't do anything. Sasuke already realized that Danzo's immortality came from his eyes. She only got in the way by being taken hostage. Yes, tobi helped. He was against all the Kage in a small room. He was screwed. He is not edo Madara lol.

No no no. I think you misunderstood. I'm not saying I want him to completely stop using MS all together. I just would like him to mix it in with his others techs. I was a big fan of his fighting style before MS. I like it better than Narutos for sure. The sword was cool, the chidori techs. His fire stuff. His speed. It was awesome. Now its just MS. It's like I know he has soooo many cool stuff and now all I see is the same two things. It's a tad frustrating haha.

And you have to admit. Sasuke has had quite a bit of help in most of his fights. Karin and Jugo healed him and Karin did help out with Danzo. So has Naruto though. Just maybe not as much.