Hiruzen Sarutobi: "The GOD of shinobi" arguments

[wildstorm]

Re: Hiruzen is the God of Shinobi

not again !!
First thing, Kishi doesn't write these Wikis
2nd thing, your article itself says that he was ONE of the strongest ninjas in history.
About being strongest hokage konoha ever had, who said it ?
Villagers during the 3rd's reign, will always think that he was the strongest, just in the same way the villagers during 4th's reign think Minato was the strongest..

 

[The Necromancer]

Re: Hiruzen is the God of Shinobi

But he was old. He was not the same as when he was prime. It's right there on the info I gave you.

I'm saying that the info you gave was created, what? 7 years ago? While the first is still being added to as we speak. Previous information has already been contradicted.

 

[Zlad]

Re: Hiruzen is the God of Shinobi

Too bad I more believe in what Madara and Dan says. Hashirama was the god of shinobi. Finito.

 

[MadaraHashirama]

Re: Hiruzen is the God of Shinobi

Pretty annoying how there is another Hiruzen thread about him being the God of Shinobi, of course this has really proper explanation (it would be rude for me not to +rep you) but it wasn't necessary at all.

People who still not understand will never understand so, that includes myself, Hiruzen may be the strongest Hokage but unless I don't see his Prime or just something he has done really impressive I will refuse to believe so, for example, Rikudo Sennin (the true Ninja God in my opinion) fought with the Juubi, he was the first person to find the secrets behind Chakra and Ninjutsu, he basically created the Ninjaworld! There are so many things about him which you can use to base of off his strength, Hiruzen is not this case therefore alot of people will refuse to believe his strength.

If Kishimoto gives me a flashback or atleast something that we can use to base his strength of then I would gladly accept the fact that Hiruzen is the strongest.

 

[ReapTermin]

Re: Hiruzen is the God of Shinobi

not again !!
First thing, Kishi doesn't write these Wikis
2nd thing, your article itself says that he was ONE of the strongest ninjas in history.
About being strongest hokage konoha ever had, who said it ?
Villagers during the 3rd's reign, will always think that he was the strongest, just in the same way the villagers during 4th's reign think Minato was the strongest..

Wiki's are created with facts and they are constantly edited.

Too bad I more believe in what Madara and Dan says. Hashirama was the god of shinobi. Finito.

Ok... I don't think that Madara faced Hiruzen. And I'm not sure about Dan.

 

[Prince Charles]

Re: Hiruzen is the God of Shinobi

Pretty annoying how there is another Hiruzen thread about him being the God of Shinobi, of course this has really proper explanation (it would be rude for me not to +rep you) but it wasn't necessary at all.

People who still not understand will never understand so, that includes myself, Hiruzen may be the strongest Hokage but unless I don't see his power or at the very least just something he has done really impressive example Rikudo Sennin (the true Ninja God in my opinion) fought with the Juubi, he was the first person to find the secrets behind Chakra and Ninjutsu, there are so many things about him which you can use to base of off his strength, Hiruzen is not this case therefore alot of people will refuse to believe his strength.

If Kishimoto gives me a flashback or atleast something that we can use to base his strength of then I would gladly accept the fact that Hiruzen is the strongest.

this also hiruzen is just hype at least hashirama was shown fighting madara and kurama and stuff.

kishi cant even show a simple manga chap with hiruzen doing something awesome.

 

[Zlad]

Re: Hiruzen is the God of Shinobi

Wiki's are created with facts and they are constantly edited.



Ok... I don't think that Madara faced Hiruzen. And I'm not sure about Dan.

..But Kishi is the one who write :sy:

and even Kabuto said it

 

[The Necromancer]

Re: Hiruzen is the God of Shinobi

..But Kishi is the one who write :sy:

and even Kabuto said it

^This. Plus Madara knows about nagato, i'm pretty sure he's heard about Hiruzen.

 

[ReapTermin]

Re: Hiruzen is the God of Shinobi

..But Kishi is the one who write :sy:

and even Kabuto said it

And where do you think that Wiki's get their info from? The Manga that Kishi writes.

^This. Plus Madara knows about nagato, i'm pretty sure he's heard about Hiruzen.

That whole Nagato thing is shrouded in mystery.

 

[The Necromancer]

Re: Hiruzen is the God of Shinobi

And where do you think that Wiki's get their info from? The Manga that Kishi writes.



That whole Nagato thing is shrouded in mystery.

1. Hiruzen has been called the god of shinobi once. Years ago. Nobody has used his cells to make themselves stronger, and no one heard about him and thought his powers were a myth on the scale of the SO6P.

2. It's just as shrouded as Hiruzen's prime is. So this thread is over.

 

[stRunF]

Re: Hiruzen is the God of Shinobi

He beat Hashirama and Tobirama due to the technique that Minato taught him, I don't get it why he's praised for that?
He was a decent shinobi, but I don't think that he should be praised up to the sky ._.

 

[Urda]

Re: Hiruzen is the God of Shinobi

He was often called the "God of Shinobi." I read that in the Manga during a posting of these same thread. Also, regardless of the nickname, it does not mean he could win any battle. Out of fun and somewhat argument, lets debate on the words:

1. Hiruzen was one of the most powerful shinobi in history.

- Many also was consider power, but he was referred to by more than many seen to be beyond because he had knowledge to go with his power.

2. In fact, he was so powerful that he was admired as the God of Shinobi in his prime and was said to be the strongest Hokage that Konoha ever had.

- Because he was a young Hokage (hint: Prime) at the time, probably with all that hype, he was consider the strongest Hokage Konoha has ever produced. He did have to start from somewhere such as the Konoha Ninja Academy where he was first consider such a genius. Another example of this is Itachi, Neji, Shikamaru. etc. He just became Hokage to become worldly known or recognize as a genius such as Minato we he was one.

 

[ReapTermin]

Re: Hiruzen is the God of Shinobi

1. Hiruzen has been called the god of shinobi once. Years ago. Nobody has used his cells to make themselves stronger, and no one heard about him and thought his powers were a myth on the scale of the SO6P.

2. It's just as shrouded as Hiruzen's prime is. So this thread is over.

1. Hashirama is much more famous than Hiruzen. And the reason people want his cells is because of Mokuton. Tell what else do they want from him other than Mokuton?

2. Don't give me that crap.

 

[The Necromancer]

Re: Hiruzen is the God of Shinobi

1. Hashirama is much more famous than Hiruzen. And the reason people want his cells is because of Mokuton. Tell what else do they want from him other than Mokuton?

2. Don't give me that crap.

They want his POWER! The power hiruzen doesn't compare to.

And this "Crap" is speculation, just like everything we know about hiruzen's prime is. You're just upset because i disproved your speculation with one sentence.

 

[ReapTermin]

Re: Hiruzen is the God of Shinobi

They want his POWER! The power hiruzen doesn't compare to.

And this "Crap" is speculation, just like everything we know about hiruzen's prime is. You're just upset because i disproved your speculation with one sentence.

The power they want is the power of the Senju and his Mokuton.

And I'm not upset because you disapprove. I could not care less, really.

 

[The Necromancer]

Re: Hiruzen is the God of Shinobi

The power they want is the power of the Senju and his Mokuton.

And I'm not upset because you disapprove. I could not care less, really.

Hashirama IS the power of the senju. The second strongest in history behind the Sage. The man who tamed all 9 bijuu and divided them amongst the nations. The man who defeated Madara Uchiha, the first one ever to obtain the EMS and the Kyuubi in single combat alone. And the only man people are more afraid of than Madara Uchiha. The man who's power was a legend equal to that of the SO6P. And seeing as how you're getting all pissy because there are all of 2 facts to support your claim, while the manga keeps putting out facts for hashirama, i would say you do care.

 

[Talal]

Re: Hiruzen is the God of Shinobi

They want his POWER! The power hiruzen doesn't compare to.

And this "Crap" is speculation, just like everything we know about hiruzen's prime is. You're just upset because i disproved your speculation with one sentence.

With all due respect your argument is poor. They want his cells because he had a perfect body and amazing abilities, that doesnt prove that he is better than Hiruzen. It only proves that he had a better body.

 

[ReapTermin]

Re: Hiruzen is the God of Shinobi

With all due respect your argument is poor. They want his cells because he had a perfect body and amazing abilities, that doesnt prove that he is better than Hiruzen. It only proves that he had a better body.

I know. I gave up on this thread already. I'm just not putting effort into it the way I usually do.

 

[The Necromancer]

Re: Hiruzen is the God of Shinobi

I know. I gave up on this thread already. I'm just not putting effort into it the way I usually do.

I would love to see more arguments. Maybe there's another quote you missed from years ago. But in the end Hiruzen was forgotten by kishi a few years and a few hundred chapters ago, while hashirama is being upgraded every week.

 

[ReapTermin]

Re: Hiruzen is the God of Shinobi

I would love to see more arguments. Maybe there's another quote you missed from years ago. But in the end Hiruzen was forgotten by kishi a few years and a few hundred chapters ago, while hashirama is being upgraded every week.

Hey, that's what he does. And I gave up on the thread because I really don't feel like arguing. Not worth it.

Plus, Kishi is the biggest Naruto Troll there is. Fanboy of Itachi and Minato.