Minato Vs Hiruzen

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Minato wins- with ALOT of difficulty, this is because Hiruzen was said to be the strongest hokage (in his prime).
 

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Minato because he was the one who stopped the nine tails attack on leaf village. hiruzen tried but couldnt succeed and was waiting for minato to do it.
 
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He probably knows all but it doesn't mean that he can counter FTG. There is no way to counter that move brother ^_^
Well if you believe that, I respect you :)

One of the ways I might see it countered is by the shuriken cloning jutsu thing. He could counter all FTG kunai with it. That way, no markings would be around Hiruzen. This could be one way. He was also a master at shadow cloning so maybe he could get enough clones to win it. None of this is for sure, as I said it could go both ways
 

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Minato because he was the one who stopped the nine tails attack on leaf village. hiruzen tried but couldnt succeed and was waiting for minato to do it.

is hiruzen versed in uzumaki seals?

you do realize unless you can supress, seal, control with sharingan, you can't beat kyuubi right?

noone can beat him 1v1, not even nagato, 8 tail kyuubi with half chakra broke out his ctensei....

Hiruzen simply didn't have the tools to deal with a tailed beast..

does that mean minato is stronger than hiruzen just because he has chakra sealing techniques?

horrible logic
 

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By feats : Minato stomps Hiruzen .

Hype : Hype means shit..because power level mean shit in battles . Its about matchups and its impossible to judge this match by hype alone.



Except that A (4th Raikage) thought that Minato can never be surpassed ..and he knew about Hiruzen .


Viz official manga scans had that statement as "he was a noble man, a finer shinobi never existed"

Nothing to do with his power they were talking about his qualities as a man
 

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i think they're both weak... he he for me' gaara's the best both of them
 

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they there is not need to think about it much if we use logic, michaell Jordan was and is the greetest of all time, he might be 60 or 50 i dont know, do you think hr will peformce like he did in his time? no....

Hiruzen was old! like 65-71 something like that and minato was a god dam 26-30 old man.do you guys actually believe that a old dude can still be the best if hiruzen has someone that is younger ofcourses he will need the young one.

Minato was better than the old Hiruzen but it can not be says the same about hiruzen on his primen. what we know is that even a 67 years old hiruzen has 35 in the databook.

Hiruzen on his prime probably had 40.
 

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Why are you guys saying "Hiruzen prime"? We didn't even know anything about him when he was old... what makes you think you know anything about him when he was "prime"?

This is just people being biased. U_U
 

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Prime? minato was never in his prime.. as jiraya said he had talent to become wextremely strong and top rated, but he died before that... according to tsunade... I don't get why you people are comparing the man who is not even in his prime, and didn't live up to his talent, to people like hashirama, ems madara, and prime hiruzen , just utter madness ,




I'm sorry, It was stated hiruzen was the Strongest hokage, and that he was the strongest of the 5 kages...

hashirama was stated to be the strongest ninja alive in his time

tobirama was one of the strongest in his era

Minato , nothing was said about him regarding his stats with other kage.... he did only hold his hokage status for some months..
he does have that flee on sight hype though lol

Didn't live up to his talents? WTF? Are you stupid? This man created his main techs out of scratch. Wasn't in his prime? Your smoking crack. He is the fasted shinobi in the world aside from Naruto, the man destroys whole divisions of enemy shinobi and your saying he didn't live up to his talents. Given the man died at an early age and would've gotten stronger if he didn't, but that could be said about any shinobi who died at an early age. I'm not even a Minato fan, but come on really, he didn't live up to his talents?
 

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Didn't live up to his talents? WTF? Are you stupid? This man created his main techs out of scratch. Wasn't in his prime? Your smoking crack. He is the fasted shinobi in the world aside from Naruto, the man destroys whole divisions of enemy shinobi and your saying he didn't live up to his talents. Given the man died at an early age and would've gotten stronger if he didn't, but that could be said about any shinobi who died at an early age. I'm not even a Minato fan, but come on really, he didn't live up to his talents?

Urm, these are Jiraya's and tsunade's words..

i recomend you read the manga..

MINATO HAD TALENT to become extremely strong, and died young.. he was never in his prime..

jiraya and tsunade told naruto this

you think i was making it up? .sigh
nbers gonna nb
 

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Kishi said it was a draw dammit so it's a f u c k i n g draw.
 

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is hiruzen versed in uzumaki seals?

you do realize unless you can supress, seal, control with sharingan, you can't beat kyuubi right?

noone can beat him 1v1, not even nagato, 8 tail kyuubi with half chakra broke out his ctensei....

Hiruzen simply didn't have the tools to deal with a tailed beast..

does that mean minato is stronger than hiruzen just because he has chakra sealing techniques?

horrible logic

i agree with ur every point , however when it is a fight , it's not always about power and who is strong , definitely hiruzen was more powerful
not only in terms of chakra reserves , but had more jutsus also , but a fight is not decided by raw strength or the no. of technique , but how useful ur techniques are against ur enemy and how much killer instinct u have .

i saw minato in 3 fights vs A, tobi ,earth shinobi s . and also have seen hiruzen in 1 fight against oro and 2 hokages .
and i found minato was more profound , calm ,battle smart and with more killer instinct . i mean always one step ahead from the enemy .

quote from tobi - u got me , this is what is meant by elusive .
tobi was surprised 3 times by minato , even if he was aware of his speed and knew about him already ,

now here we r considering a fight which never happened , that means we have to consider their abilities shown or heard as whole , and we have to analyse .
now if u ask who is more powerful , i say hiruzen

but
if u talk about
who will be the winner if they fight , well then i say minato wins .
why
it's simple he will execute his techniques very well , he is fast and smart , i see every possibility of minato winning but i see very less possibility of
hiruzen winning .



Viz official manga scans had that statement as "he was a noble man, a finer shinobi never existed"

Nothing to do with his power they were talking about his qualities as a man

i agree to this too that he was never said strongest ,
even kabuto underrated him saying he was nothing compare to hashirama , however i see this as underestimating rather than anything else , no different then people underestimating naruto while he was fighting neji and then getting surprised after he beat him .

also none of minato's abilities were of kabuto's interest he didn't have senju DNA neither had rapid healing or kekkei genkai mokutoun . it's obvious he underrated him .
however if again it comes to fight i see minato doing better than even hashi . cuz no matter how fast healing u can't survive when ur head chopped off . that's what i think .
 

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Urm, these are Jiraya's and tsunade's words..

i recomend you read the manga..

MINATO HAD TALENT to become extremely strong, and died young.. he was never in his prime..

jiraya and tsunade told naruto this

you think i was making it up? .sigh
nbers gonna nb

Please show me where it states that Minato was never in his prime and I will stand corrected. As for me being a newbie...you are correct, but does that matter to me....no, so you talking shit like you know everything doesn't matter to me either. Judgeing from all the posts that you have made tells me that you spend way to much time on this site. For the record, Minato lived up to his talents.
 
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If it's Hiruzen in his prime I think he takes it because its been said he has quite an arsonal of jutsu.

However, if it's old Hiruzen then Minato wins.
 
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