Why jiraiya > itachi full detailed thread on this subject.

[Martano]

So I should get off my high horse but there should be a VIP section? I am confused.

Seriously though, you do have a point. Although I wouldn't take it so far as to say that all forum discussions are pointless. This is still a place where one can socialize and discuss the newest manga chapter. It is also a good place for different theories, posting one's thoughts, predictions and things others may have missed.

Hell, even these vs threads could be worth something, but few choose to view it logically, that's all I'm saying. People will defend their favorite characters till their dying breath, it seems. I've seen people argue that Gaara didn't block Amaterasu at all, for instance.

It could be a fun thing, but it usually results in a "my character is better than yours" scenario. And of course, as I mentioned before, the fact that people rarely even DISCUSS...they just post their thoughts and then vanish.

That is true I suppose... Their ignorance is their loss. Your high horse was a reference to the intial assumptions you made about my comment.

The VIP section was an acceptance of your merit as a member and not just some troll. Hence we are having a discussion (albeit off topic).

Fanboys will always be fanboys, until they reach puberty and realise the depth of stories such as Naruto.

We should all accept that based on current facts the Sage of the 6 paths was the strongest... haha! He might be surpassed in the future, you just never know.

In all honesty I think Itachi would defeat Jiraiya. I mean Izanami? We don't even know just how powerful it could be, or if Itachi could weild it when he was alive and merely chose not to.

 

[Thane]

That is true I suppose... Their ignorance is their loss. Your high horse was a reference to the intial assumptions you made about my comment.

The VIP section was an acceptance of your merit as a member and not just some troll. Hence we are having a discussion (albeit off topic).

Fanboys will always be fanboys, until they reach puberty and realise the depth of stories such as Naruto.

We should all accept that based on current facts the Sage of the 6 paths was the strongest... haha! He might be surpassed in the future, you just never know.

In all honesty I think Itachi would defeat Jiraiya. I mean Izanami? We don't even know just how powerful it could be, or if Itachi could weild it when he was alive and merely chose not to.

About that, it wasn't a response to your comment - 'twas actually to anyone with an avatar of the characters in question.

True enough, I suppose. A part of me is afraid that not every fanboy is pre-teen though.

Judging by Naruto's current appearance, it looks like he'll become the new Sage. I really hope not though. I don't want an ending that's overly cheesy, like all villages uniting and everlasting peace and so forth. A happy ending, with Sasuke back in Konoha, gladly. Not the previously mentioned. Also, I hope there will be no more power ups, I've had enough of those to last a lifetime.

By the way, your drawings are pretty darn good.

 

[Martano]

About that, it wasn't a response to your comment - 'twas actually to anyone with an avatar of the characters in question.

True enough, I suppose. A part of me is afraid that not every fanboy is pre-teen though.

Judging by Naruto's current appearance, it looks like he'll become the new Sage. I really hope not though. I don't want an ending that's overly cheesy, like all villages uniting and everlasting peace and so forth. A happy ending, with Sasuke back in Konoha, gladly. Not the previously mentioned. Also, I hope there will be no more power ups, I've had enough of those to last a lifetime.

By the way, your drawings are pretty darn good.

I think there may be one or two more powerups yet to be seen. I don't think any of them will be from Naruto. I reckon Tobi has yet to show his true power, possibly the same with Zetsu (depending on how much progress is made with Captain Yamato's cells).

Other than that, there is the possibility of the ten tails, which I hope doesn't happen, obviously Izanami which will be next week I reckon. (We all know that Itachi is well going to undo the damage inflicted by Kabuto).

Besides that I don't think there is a massive amount of scope for massive power ups that we haven't already seen.

I do think there will be some substantial losses to the allied forces, probably reasonably big characters. However, I digress... Haha!

Oh yeah, one of my good friends drew them for me, he is ridiculously good at drawing manga! haha! . I've got them framed and on a shelf in my room!

 

[Thane]

I think there may be one or two more powerups yet to be seen. I don't think any of them will be from Naruto. I reckon Tobi has yet to show his true power, possibly the same with Zetsu (depending on how much progress is made with Captain Yamato's cells).

Other than that, there is the possibility of the ten tails, which I hope doesn't happen, obviously Izanami which will be next week I reckon. (We all know that Itachi is well going to undo the damage inflicted by Kabuto).

Besides that I don't think there is a massive amount of scope for massive power ups that we haven't already seen.

I do think there will be some substantial losses to the allied forces, probably reasonably big characters. However, I digress... Haha!

Oh yeah, one of my good friends drew them for me, he is ridiculously good at drawing manga! haha! . I've got them framed and on a shelf in my room!

I actually doubt we'll get to see Izanami next week. Just a hunch though, from the way it ended. But who knows, maybe Itachi will just repair himself and then go bananas with Izanami.

Yeah Tobi definitely has an ace or two up his sleeve. I just hope it isn't something that requires more power. The power level as it is now is just ridiculous - The Konoha 11 have become the Konoha Fodder in comparison.

Speaking of Tobi though, I think his fight will be the last we see, out of the current three. I'm also starting to wonder who he is. Apparently he knows Madara (just re-read that part) so he's probably old.

No kidding, I wish I could draw like that. Pff, I've always been lousy at drawing, and me being the most impatient man in the universe doesn't really help.

 

[Martano]

I actually doubt we'll get to see Izanami next week. Just a hunch though, from the way it ended. But who knows, maybe Itachi will just repair himself and then go bananas with Izanami.

Yeah Tobi definitely has an ace or two up his sleeve. I just hope it isn't something that requires more power. The power level as it is now is just ridiculous - The Konoha 11 have become the Konoha Fodder in comparison.

Speaking of Tobi though, I think his fight will be the last we see, out of the current three. I'm also starting to wonder who he is. Apparently he knows Madara (just re-read that part) so he's probably old.

No kidding, I wish I could draw like that. Pff, I've always been lousy at drawing, and me being the most impatient man in the universe doesn't really help.

I know, I have zero idea of who he actually is. Obviously there is a hundred and one different theories of who he might be. But which one is the most likely, I do not know...

It's ashame for the likes of Lee and that, I agree. They were awesome like ten years ago! haha! Still, it's nice to see them in the war participating, all be it only for brief durations.

I struggle to draw literally anything to be honest. My brother is alright at drawing as well, I hope that eventually he'll be able to draw me a few pictures for the wall! haha!

 

[SCRIBBLEonLIFE]

Itachi < Jiraiya (not decided through the P.O.V. of a fangirl) - Itachi did not go all out during his battle with Sasuke so you really can't judge his Jutsus and outcomes through that.

 

[Poem]

I believe they'll kill each other.

 

[Raito]

It has been said Naruto surpassed Jiraiya since he mastered the Senninmode. Naruto himself admitted at that time he was inferior to Sasuke. And we all know Sasuke is inferior to Itachi, at least at the time Naruto made this statement. So if we go by the manga, it's actually: Itachi > Sasuke > Naruto > Jiraiya.

 

[Prince Charles]

It has been said Naruto surpassed Jiraiya since he mastered the Senninmode. Naruto himself admitted at that time he was inferior to Sasuke. And we all know Sasuke is inferior to Itachi, at least at the time Naruto made this statement. So if we go by the manga, it's actually: Itachi > Sasuke > Naruto > Jiraiya.

naruto may have surpassed him in sage mode but not over all abilities.

 

[Senju555]

The manga is always praising the uchiha clan with their abilities, but when you talk about a fight you should mention that Itachi doesnt have the eternal light, the frog stomach tech used by Jiraiya forced Itachi to use the black sun in order to get away with Kisame when encountered jiraiya+Naruto+Sas he was again using up his eye sight, Itachi is one of the most fearsome characters ever but nobody can face PAIN and kill 3 of the paths in a very clever way without having any adequate intel about his enemy's abilities and yet he killed the fourth 1 through the barier and incase you guys noticed in his last moment he went through all Paths in a fraction of a second and delivered a blow to the main pain body, not to mention that RENNIGAN is way superior to Sharingan. Jiraiya is on a Hokagi level and orochimaro is a demi god, and DANZO shouldnt die like that. the Manga was stupid in some occasions and underestimating everyone BUT the uchiha especially the SENJU, no way you can KILL a man with 10 IZANAGI ready to use shringan eyes, sasuke shouldnt have survived that fight. spare us the crap KISHI. JIRAIYA rocks and he wont lose (as one post mentioned) in a short battle!

 

[hatake89]

agree

 

[Joki]

I agree with the OP and all but I'm pretty sure even he could already tell thanks to the past 20 pages of the thread that it's kind of pointless lol.

Most Itachi fans just troll anyway and don't actually think Itachi is better, they're just in denial because he's their favorite character.

 

[Turson]

I agree with the OP and all but I'm pretty sure even he could already tell thanks to the past 20 pages of the thread that it's kind of pointless lol.

Most Itachi fans just troll anyway and don't actually think Itachi is better, they're just in denial because he's their favorite character.

Look at my post from second page. I explained there sweet and short in three points why Jiraiya wouldnt stand a chance. As for now, nobody proven it false.

So dont tell my that Itachis fans are in denial.

 

[Prince Charles]

Look at my post from second page. I explained there sweet and short in three points why Jiraiya wouldnt stand a chance. As for now, nobody proven it false.

So dont tell my that Itachis fans are in denial.

you said this

Jiraiya is not fast enough to escape from Sharingan eyesight, Amaterasu is deadly for him. Thats first thing.

Second, Itachi can take control over any summon with Sharingan. Him taking control over Ma or Pa, who are on Jiraiyas arms, means that perv is dead.

Third, Jiraiya had great problems with activating SM while fighting Animal path alone, it takes that much time. Itachis battle capacity >>> Animal path battle capacity.



1. pretty sure he studied it when he sealed it in part 1,
2.your acting like he has the chakra reserves to get over any high level summon pa or ma with ease?

itachi isnt fast enough to escape frog sound genjutsu?
pa does a reserve summon on jman to get in smU_U

 

[Dark Artist]

jiraiya take this with easy diff

Rep+ man

cool thread

 

[Turson]

1. pretty sure he studied it when he sealed it in part 1,

Yeah, and he learned that its stronger than normal Katon. Big thing. He still dont know how its used during battle, than it appears on target.

2.your acting like he has the chakra reserves to get over any high level summon pa or ma with ease?

Of course. Sasuke controlled boss summon, Manda, with nearly no chakra and three tomoe Sharingan.

itachi isnt fast enough to escape frog sound genjutsu?

Who said he will even manage to use it? Becuase of the reasons I listed, his chances are illusive. Sure, Jiraiya can own Madara, Minato, Tobi with it. Does that make him stronger than them?

pa does a reserve summon on jman to get in sm

If hes forced to retreat, he loses.

 

[Joki]

Look at my post from second page. I explained there sweet and short in three points why Jiraiya wouldnt stand a chance. As for now, nobody proven it false.

So dont tell my that Itachis fans are in denial.

Link me to your post and I'll counter it.

 

[Turson]

Link me to your post and I'll counter it.

Second page of this thread dude.

 

[Joki]

Second page of this thread dude.

I checked, I don't know which one of your posts you're talking about, and my threads don't load the same number of posts on each page as default so Page 2 for you might not be Page 2 for me.

This one?

You must be registered for see links

I'll reply to it anyway but if it's not the one just post the one you meant.

Jiraiya is not fast enough to escape from Sharingan eyesight, Amaterasu is deadly for him. Thats first thing.

He was faster than Rinnegan eyesight, and much faster than Itachi ever displayed

Second, Itachi can take control over any summon with Sharingan. Him taking control over Ma or Pa, who are on Jiraiyas arms, means that perv is dead.

How do you expect him to take control of one of these summons? Itachi doesn't have "mind control jutsu A" that allows him to control any target. Besides they can avoid eye contact, for them it's even simpler.

Third, Jiraiya had great problems with activating SM while fighting Animal path alone, it takes that much time. Itachis battle capacity >>> Animal path battle capacity.

Wtf? Why does everyone say this, it didn't take hardly any time it all, it took 1 chapter basically a minute or less in real time. Jiraiya can summon 4+ boss toads who could probably solo Itachi on their own or give him a challenge while he sits in the back waiting.

 

[Prince Charles]

Yeah, and he learned that its stronger than normal Katon. Big thing. He still dont know how its used during battle, than it appears on target.

Of course. Sasuke controlled boss summon, Manda, with nearly no chakra and three tomoe Sharingan.

Who said he will even manage to use it? Becuase of the reasons I listed, his chances are illusive. Sure, Jiraiya can own Madara, Minato, Tobi with it. Does that make him stronger than them?

If hes forced to retreat, he loses.

1. if he studied it im pretty sure that means learning about the technique and possible ways to notice when its coming? :sy:

2. sasuke controlling manda with barely any chakra was plot no jutsu
not to mention im pretty ma>manda pa>manda ma and pa would require much more chakra to control considering their greater summonings.

3.huh? not forced to retreat.. he's getting prep time for sm and returning right bak to the battle how is that retreating?U_U

4.own tobi,minato,madara? huh?

5. and if he does manage to use frog sound genjutsu? :noc: