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1. holy fk thats a sexy ass gurl
2. how does that answer if he can break frog genjutsu.
Why jiraiya > itachi full detailed thread on this subject.
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1. holy fk thats a sexy ass gurl
2. how does that answer if he can break frog genjutsu.
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1. holy fk thats a sexy ass gurl
2. how does that answer if he can break frog genjutsu.
2. Some things you can't help but stare at. You just fell for my genjutsu xd
But really, click on the link below the teenage girl.
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i did click on the link, basically you said itachi 1 shot's him with his genjutsu
what i want to know can itachi counter frog genjutsu
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i did click on the link, basically you said itachi 1 shot's him with his genjutsu
what i want to know can itachi counter frog genjutsu
Itachi doesn't have to. That's the point. Based on all of the information Itachi would one shot Jiraiya from the start. Jiraiya can't fight back once he's dead.
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1. holy fk thats a sexy ass gurl
2. how does that answer if he can break frog genjutsu.
those r some bigo titties
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i will now in full detail of each character's abilities,and show you people why jirayia beats itachi.
~OFFENSIVE ATTACKS/NINJUTSU~
ITACHI"S AMATASRSU
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Shown right here itachi is manipulating his amatarasu and chasing it with sasuke, you clearly see sasuke outrunning it while in curse mark mode.
now considering sage mode increases one's speed jman would have no problem out running it.
Another way for jman to stop amatarsu is he needle hair ninjutsu.
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jman shown here is spitting up oil to wrap konan
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shown right here jman has the ability to manipulate his hair into needles or stretch it to long distances, if itachi starts to chase or manipulate ameratsu jman can easily cover himself in his hair and shed off the burned parts.
SEALING amatarsu~You must be registered for see images
shown right here jman is able to seal amatarsu into a scroll IMO. if itachi tries to surround jman with amatrasu like this shown here :You must be registered for see images
jman will easily seal it before you say you think itachi will jsut stand by and let him seal it, ma and pa can easily fend off itachi while jman is forming a seal but ma and pa are another subject for later.
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~ITACHI'S GENJUTSU~
~WAYS TO COUNTER GENJUTSU~
The ninja needs to stop the flow of chakra in their body, and then apply an even stronger power to disrupt the flow of the caster's chakra; this is called Genjutsu Dissipation (幻術解, Genjutsu Kai). This can also be done by an unaffected ninja by applying a sudden surge of chakra into the affected person. In addition, tailed beasts can break their jinchūriki out of genjutsu in a similar fashion if they have a good enough cooperation, as seen in Killer B's case.
if you read in the spoiler^^^ it saids one way to counter a genjutsu is to for another person or being to apply a sudden surge of chakra into the person thats in the genjutsu.
ma and pa can easily break jman out of a genjutsu at ease.
shown right here~ killer bee is breaking out of sasuke's genjutsu because of his tailed beasts the rule applys to ma and pa too.You must be registered for see images
bee breaks out right here:You must be registered for see images
same rules apply to ma and pa which can break jman out of genjutsu.
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~ITACHI'S SUSSANO~
considering itachi's is basically invincible through the front, its weak spot should be around the back since its not a 360 degree defense.
jman can easily use food cart destroyer (WHICH MAY) break itachi's sussano from the upper front, but this is just speculation that food cart destroyer can smash it. food cart destroyer being shown here~You must be registered for see images
~KATON~
IMO, most likely their katon will clash
jman is shown using katon against konan right here~You must be registered for see images
this is a perfect way to counter itachi's katon and with the help of gamabunta shown here-You must be registered for see images
~DEFENSIVENESS~ IMO i will admit jman's attacks to the font of itachi's will be utterly useless considering he has yata mirror~You must be registered for see images
but jirayia has pretty good defensives and escape routes.
jman can easily use hiding in a toad technique to escape itachi's katon or other long distances attacks. technique shown here~You must be registered for see images
Another counter and most likely instant win for jman would be his abilitly to turn his opponents into FROGS yes i know your probably thinking im trolling but bere with me jman has the ability to turn people into frogs.
jman turning someone into a frog right here~You must be registered for see images
let me break down the technique for you, basically to use this technique the user must lay their land on the forehead of the victim and think of a mental image of a frog in their head and the victim is INSTANTLY turned into a frog. more info on this technique right here if you wanna read itYou must be registered for see links
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Another one of jman's techniques that i would like to discuss would be his toad flatness-shadow manipulation technique.
heres the technique being used~You must be registered for see images
shown right here you witness jman coming out from under the ground into a shadowy form from one of pains allies.
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if jirayia can catch itachi off guard or get close to him he can easily control his shadow, let me break down the technique for you.
Basically jman becomes one with the victims shadow and the victim loses control over their body and mind for temporarily itachi has no counter for this move.
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~ITACHI"S SUSSANO OFFENSIVES~
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IMO i admit avoiding itachis attacks like this shown above^^ will be no easy task but i believe he can pull it off.
he can counter itachi's sussano with swamp of the underworld.
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shown right here jman is engulfing orochimaru's snakes in a chakra mud based swamp and their basically trapped IMO.
i admit itachi can just deactivate sussano but he would likely be stuck in the mud considering its no ordrinary mud.
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Another counter for itachi's sussano would be one of jman barrier techniques called TOAD GOURD PRISON
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heres the technique being used on one of the pain body's. he eventually dies by the acid lake WHICH IS STATED TO DISSOLVE anything.
itachi's sussano wont be able to withstand the acid and will dissolve leaving itachi to fall victim to the acid as well.
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jman can also use wild lion's Mane to get ahold of sussano and wrap it thus making it unable to move.You must be registered for see images
will admit itachi's quick thinking and analyzing would be a thread for jman and his sealing sword would be a instant ko if he managed to hit jiraiya but jman has too many quick escapes and quick counters for itachi.
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if they decide to go into a taijutsu battle jman WILL BE the victor because of frog kata.
sage mode increases one strength,power,reflexes,speed,and taijutsu.
shown right here naruto is using frog kata~You must be registered for see images
IMO while using frog kata in sage mode the user doesnt have to make contact to make a direct hit. jman has the same feats.
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MA and MA
IMO itachis sussano cannot withstand frog stand well atleast in the back
( DAMN YATA MIRROR
MA AND PA"S SOUND GENJUTSU
IMO even tho itachi has the ability to break out of genjutsu its still speculation that he would be able to break out of frog sound genjutsu.
ma and can use demonic illusion: toad confrontation chant on itachi and HE WILL BE INSTANTLY CAUGHT IN It unless he doesnt have ears
let me break down this genjutsu for you, Inside the genjutsu world, the targets are surrounded from all sides by four toad samurai, with their mind and body completely sealed between their hands in an illusionary cube of water. The four unmoving toads won't lift the complete binding until the user gives the order.
IMO unless itachi can break out this genjutsu he is done for IMO . heres the technique in actionYou must be registered for see images
your thoughts on this subject? feel free to debate,argue against me, call me a turd,+rep me, or agree, anthing you like.
and you probably didnt read the whole thing
good points..+ rep..i see them equal or Jiraiya has a slight advantage
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Man this threat is like WTF.. All he state is "imo".. N m sure that Kishi would nevr take his opinion...lol..
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There is a mistake in you explanation. Jman did not turn the nin from amegakure into frog. He hust hid him in a frog, as the same nin was used for interrogation later.
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itachi < jiraiya
UNLESS Itachi play dumb
UNLESS Itachi play dumb
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agree with everything you typed down ahahs
plus rep
plus rep
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itachi wins easily.. itachi has good stand in ninjutsu genjutsu taijutsu kenjutsu weapons etc etc.. also he has too much of speed (not comparing to s/t jutsus ).. he also has good strength also he does not have too wait much to turn into super saiyan (i mean power up) unlike jiraiya... and his genjutsus are amazing .. def itachi wins
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Also not mentioned due to this weeks manga depicting the issue. Is that Susano'o is vulnerable to audio attacks, i.e. Ma and Pa's vocal genjutsu which captured one of the pains.i will now in full detail of each character's abilities,and show you people why jirayia beats itachi.
~OFFENSIVE ATTACKS/NINJUTSU~
ITACHI"S AMATASRSU
You must be registered for see images
Shown right here itachi is manipulating his amatarasu and chasing it with sasuke, you clearly see sasuke outrunning it while in curse mark mode.
now considering sage mode increases one's speed jman would have no problem out running it.
Another way for jman to stop amatarsu is he needle hair ninjutsu.
You must be registered for see images
jman shown here is spitting up oil to wrap konan
You must be registered for see images
shown right here jman has the ability to manipulate his hair into needles or stretch it to long distances, if itachi starts to chase or manipulate ameratsu jman can easily cover himself in his hair and shed off the burned parts.
SEALING amatarsu~You must be registered for see images
shown right here jman is able to seal amatarsu into a scroll IMO. if itachi tries to surround jman with amatrasu like this shown here :You must be registered for see images
jman will easily seal it before you say you think itachi will jsut stand by and let him seal it, ma and pa can easily fend off itachi while jman is forming a seal but ma and pa are another subject for later.
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~ITACHI'S GENJUTSU~
~WAYS TO COUNTER GENJUTSU~
The ninja needs to stop the flow of chakra in their body, and then apply an even stronger power to disrupt the flow of the caster's chakra; this is called Genjutsu Dissipation (幻術解, Genjutsu Kai). This can also be done by an unaffected ninja by applying a sudden surge of chakra into the affected person. In addition, tailed beasts can break their jinchūriki out of genjutsu in a similar fashion if they have a good enough cooperation, as seen in Killer B's case.
if you read in the spoiler^^^ it saids one way to counter a genjutsu is to for another person or being to apply a sudden surge of chakra into the person thats in the genjutsu.
ma and pa can easily break jman out of a genjutsu at ease.
shown right here~ killer bee is breaking out of sasuke's genjutsu because of his tailed beasts the rule applys to ma and pa too.You must be registered for see images
bee breaks out right here:You must be registered for see images
same rules apply to ma and pa which can break jman out of genjutsu.
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~ITACHI'S SUSSANO~
considering itachi's is basically invincible through the front, its weak spot should be around the back since its not a 360 degree defense.
jman can easily use food cart destroyer (WHICH MAY) break itachi's sussano from the upper front, but this is just speculation that food cart destroyer can smash it. food cart destroyer being shown here~You must be registered for see images
~KATON~
IMO, most likely their katon will clash
jman is shown using katon against konan right here~You must be registered for see images
this is a perfect way to counter itachi's katon and with the help of gamabunta shown here-You must be registered for see images
~DEFENSIVENESS~ IMO i will admit jman's attacks to the font of itachi's will be utterly useless considering he has yata mirror~You must be registered for see images
but jirayia has pretty good defensives and escape routes.
jman can easily use hiding in a toad technique to escape itachi's katon or other long distances attacks. technique shown here~You must be registered for see images
Another counter and most likely instant win for jman would be his abilitly to turn his opponents into FROGS yes i know your probably thinking im trolling but bere with me jman has the ability to turn people into frogs.
jman turning someone into a frog right here~You must be registered for see images
let me break down the technique for you, basically to use this technique the user must lay their land on the forehead of the victim and think of a mental image of a frog in their head and the victim is INSTANTLY turned into a frog. more info on this technique right here if you wanna read itYou must be registered for see links
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Another one of jman's techniques that i would like to discuss would be his toad flatness-shadow manipulation technique.
heres the technique being used~You must be registered for see images
shown right here you witness jman coming out from under the ground into a shadowy form from one of pains allies.
You must be registered for see links
if jirayia can catch itachi off guard or get close to him he can easily control his shadow, let me break down the technique for you.
Basically jman becomes one with the victims shadow and the victim loses control over their body and mind for temporarily itachi has no counter for this move.
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~ITACHI"S SUSSANO OFFENSIVES~
You must be registered for see images
IMO i admit avoiding itachis attacks like this shown above^^ will be no easy task but i believe he can pull it off.
he can counter itachi's sussano with swamp of the underworld.
You must be registered for see images
shown right here jman is engulfing orochimaru's snakes in a chakra mud based swamp and their basically trapped IMO.
i admit itachi can just deactivate sussano but he would likely be stuck in the mud considering its no ordrinary mud.
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -- - - -
Another counter for itachi's sussano would be one of jman barrier techniques called TOAD GOURD PRISON
You must be registered for see images
heres the technique being used on one of the pain body's. he eventually dies by the acid lake WHICH IS STATED TO DISSOLVE anything.
itachi's sussano wont be able to withstand the acid and will dissolve leaving itachi to fall victim to the acid as well.
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
jman can also use wild lion's Mane to get ahold of sussano and wrap it thus making it unable to move.You must be registered for see images
will admit itachi's quick thinking and analyzing would be a thread for jman and his sealing sword would be a instant ko if he managed to hit jiraiya but jman has too many quick escapes and quick counters for itachi.
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if they decide to go into a taijutsu battle jman WILL BE the victor because of frog kata.
sage mode increases one strength,power,reflexes,speed,and taijutsu.
shown right here naruto is using frog kata~You must be registered for see images
IMO while using frog kata in sage mode the user doesnt have to make contact to make a direct hit. jman has the same feats.
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MA and MA
IMO itachis sussano cannot withstand frog stand well atleast in the back
( DAMN YATA MIRROR
MA AND PA"S SOUND GENJUTSU
IMO even tho itachi has the ability to break out of genjutsu its still speculation that he would be able to break out of frog sound genjutsu.
ma and can use demonic illusion: toad confrontation chant on itachi and HE WILL BE INSTANTLY CAUGHT IN It unless he doesnt have ears
let me break down this genjutsu for you, Inside the genjutsu world, the targets are surrounded from all sides by four toad samurai, with their mind and body completely sealed between their hands in an illusionary cube of water. The four unmoving toads won't lift the complete binding until the user gives the order.
IMO unless itachi can break out this genjutsu he is done for IMO . heres the technique in actionYou must be registered for see images
your thoughts on this subject? feel free to debate,argue against me, call me a turd,+rep me, or agree, anthing you like.
and you probably didnt read the whole thing
Potentially a very useful attack against Itachi.
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Aye great. I'm not a Jiraiya fanboy. Go and look at ANY of my previous posts, you won't find any idiotic ignorance of who is stronger or who isn't.
Also this is the first time I've signed on in months and this thread was top of the list. Get off your high horse and stop acting like a smart arse.
The awkward moment when people think they are always right...
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Also, you'll notice I didn't say ANYWHERE that I agreed with the threads opening comment. I merely said that form of genjutsu would POTENTIALLY be useful against Itachi.
Awkward...
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No need to get so worked up my friend. I'm just saying it's rather predictable. Not only that, but discussions like these are, in the end, meaningless. Not only does one rarely change one's views, but the fights themselves are always pre-determined.
Also, there is never much discussion. People just post their views and ignore what everyone else has already said.
However, if I offended you in any way, I apologize.
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It's alright. There are too many trolls in any forums really. But to be fair, you could debate that all forum discussions such as these are pointless, but I like to come on once in a while to see what's going on. They should have a 'mature member' section whereby online people who prove themselves to have well rounded opinions and thoughts are allowed access. Password protected mind. It's actually a rather common feature on certain forums.
Almost like a VIP section, weed out the trolls and allow them their own domain and argue amongst themselves.
There is no one here who can definitively prove or disprove any theory either. You could provide the most amazing hypothesis and yet next week Mr. Kishimoto could just create an issue which throws everything else you've just said by the way side.
Haters gonna hate... Debaters gonna debate! haha!
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So I should get off my high horse but there should be a VIP section? I am confused.
Seriously though, you do have a point. Although I wouldn't take it so far as to say that all forum discussions are pointless. This is still a place where one can socialize and discuss the newest manga chapter. It is also a good place for different theories, posting one's thoughts, predictions and things others may have missed.
Hell, even these vs threads could be worth something, but few choose to view it logically, that's all I'm saying. People will defend their favorite characters till their dying breath, it seems. I've seen people argue that Gaara didn't block Amaterasu at all, for instance.
It could be a fun thing, but it usually results in a "my character is better than yours" scenario. And of course, as I mentioned before, the fact that people rarely even DISCUSS...they just post their thoughts and then vanish.
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