Best Basketball Player in the planet

[aa27]

i think best basketball player in world.:-
1.Derick rose
2.Kevin durant
3.Lebron James
4.Kobe bryant
5.Dwayne Wade

Quite a list you got there.

 

[Dusk Crow]

Kobe is the best.

 

[Shady Doctor]

Kobe is the best.

This^^^^

 

[jackadavismm]

i think best basket player in the world is
1.lebron james.
2.kobe bryant
3.Derick Rose

 

[RekeHavoc]

Gotta put lebron on the top spot because of his athleticism, talent, and age. Kobe is a phenomenal player and down the road, after they both retire, i believe Kobe will be noticed as the better player, but for now, LeBron is best. Durant would be my No.3 spot for sure.

1.James
2.Bryant
3.Durant

 

[Uchiha Riyo]

I'm gonna say none of them, they're all great but for me it's gonna be Allen Iverson. He's the man at anklebreakers, sad to say he retired though.

From the list, I would say Dwayne Wade or LeBron. I don't know why, maybe I'm just a Heat fan.

 

[Nocturne]

ME​

xd..i don really knw players of NBA..so i'll vote MJ.

 

[Red Monster]

Lebron James

 

[PUU]

It's Durant. He's longer, a better scorer and defender. Lebron is a streaky shooter, not a consistent one.

No. A better scorer: yes, he is the best in terms of scoring/ A better defender: hell no, are you serious?:flaw:... Lebron's versatility on defense allows him to guard positions 1-5, no other player can do that. Kevin Durant has ways to go to be on Lebron's defensive level. Durant even though his strength has improved since is rookie year, he still gets physically bullied by strong players and his footwork causes trouble for him to guard smaller quick players. He cannot guard every position like Lebron can. Are you implying that since Lebron isn't as good of a shooter as Durant, he is not better than him? If you are implying that you are completely wrong.

Carmelo wouldn't have put 40 on Durant... And please Lebron James cannot compare to Kevin's shooting ability. That's silly. I've got news for you, length and size win in basketball. There are only 2/3 instances in which the taller team didn't win the title. MJ's bulls teams, Isiah's Pistons and the most recent piston's championship.

xdWhat game were you watching? Lebron and Shane Battier were rotating throughout the game guarding Melo. Melo had a big scoring game but that's what great scorers do no matter who his guarding them. But what makes a great defender is that they can prevent/slow down a great scorer from have those types of big games often. I would also like to point out that a player doesn't score all of their points just on one single player bruh. It takes effort from the defender who is guarding him and the team. You are trippin saying that Melo wouldn't drop 40+ points on Durant/OKC:sy:. And again being a better shooter doesn't mean that you are a better player, a great overall game is much more important in determining who is better, which Lebron clearly is. LMAO, so are you saying that if you have size and length you win?:flaw:. That can be a good thing to have on your team but if you don't have team defense, chemistry, teamwork, and effort from each player... you aren't winning shit even with size and length. That is what wins games and most importantly championships.

Sorry, it's really not. The heat could play the spurs, lakers or thunder. The Heat can beat the Thunder but the Lakers and Spurs are bigger inside and the Spurs have a deeper bench. I think Pop has been saving Tim Duncan all season just for the finals against the Bulls or Heat, both teams are small inside.

True, the Spurs have size and a deep bench but the Heat's starting lineup is superior to the Spurs starting lineup. But don't forget that the Heat have a solid bench too which is why I don't think the Spurs have what it takes to beat the Heat in a 7 game series.

• FUN FACT: In game 5 the announcers gave out a statistic that when Melo was guarded by Lebron he had a low field goal percentage of 30%

 

[PUU]

if i double posted my bad

Kobe Bryant could if he was in the East... come on now! The East was such a weak conference back then. They went through the Washington Wizards and New Jersey Nets to get to the Eastern Conference Finals where they actually faced some competition in the East which were the Detroit Pistons... and then they got SWEPT in the NBA Finals.

Kobe Bryant wouldn't have allowed his team to get swept on the biggest stage of them all... whether he had to put up 81 or more back then...

LeBron James is the BEST Player in the League ONLY IF you take Kobe Bryant out of the equation.

Lol no:|. I thought i explained that to you in the other thread, I guess i have to do it againU_U. Kobe wouldn't/couldn't of(or any other player) carry that sorry ass team throughout the season and playoffs at the age of 21-22...come on now!:|. Kobe's playing style wouldn't of complemented that team, Lebron got his teammates involved consistently which was key to their success and him putting up high scoring numbers. Like i said before in the other thread you are acting like the Cavs had a cake walk through the playoffs which is false. The Wizards even though they got swept, they played Lebron(Cavs) tough damn near every game against them. TBH you can make a strong case that The Wizards roster wise was better. Wizards season roster:
Gilbert Arenas
Antawn Jamison
Caron Butler
Deshawn Stevenson U_U
Antonio Daniels
Brendan Haywood
Roger Mason
Andray Blatche
... I think you get what i'm saying. In the playoffs if I remember correctly Gilbert and Caron didn't play, but that team still wasn't a cake walk. The Nets wasn't bums neither, they took the Cavs to 6 games. I don't have to explain the Pistons, I think you know how great that team was. Then they lost to a great Spurs team. Like i said before in the other thread, Drew Gooden was their second leading scorer who averaged 12.8 PPG, talk about your teammates stepping up:|.

A 21-22 year old Kobe(or any other player) wouldn't have even made it to the finals with that team that year.

No. Lebron is THE BEST PLAYER in the league even with Kobe still active and he has been for the last few years.

Yes, they did get swept, but that's not the finals is it? Furthermore, no one else but Kobe were doing anything. Pau was having problems mentally clearly, Bynum was frustrated, etc... Kobe was pretty much just getting double-teamed the entire time. At least the majority of those Cavs players back then would put for effort and energy which the Lakers lacked last year.

I guess LBJ is better than KB24, I'm just not seeing it. Kobe may be getting old yet he does such a great job adjusting his game with his age that it doesn't really matter. He still hits clutch shots, scores in the post, and embarrasses the younger players such as Dwyane Wade, LeBron James, Kevin Durant, etc... the power of youth seems to be overrated. LeBron went to South Beach because he needed someone who could clean up his mess when he chokes. *CoughDWadeCough*

Honestly, I have no problem with LeBron. I think he is the second best player in the NBA and will be #1 once Kobe retires. I just can't give him that title just yet...

*sigh* Kobe/his team still got swept though:sy: and like i explained earlier in my post, Kobe wouldn't of gotten to the Finals with that team. And Lebron doesn't get doubled teamed? When you are a great player you are going to get double and even triple teamed man. LOL, What? You know why the Cavs showed more effort than Kobe's Lakers... It's because Lebron played better than Kobe most of the time in head to head math-ups and his leadership/playmaking skills brings out the best in his teammates performances when he is on the court.

It's ok that you don't see it but he clearly is whether you accept it or not. Every great player gets older but they deal with it and still perform at a high level like Kobe and when Lebron gets older, he will too. You are coming off now like Kobe is 40 or something saying he embarrasses young players like D'wade, Lebron, Durant, etc.. First off D'wade is 30, KD isn't even great at defending, and as far as Lebron if Kobe has ever "embarrassed" him it probably happened rarely. And the players that you just named have the capabilities to do the same thing to Kobe(older or younger). "Lebron went to South Beach because he needed someone who could clean up his mess when he chokes. *CoughDWadeCough*" :sy:Stupid ass comments right there shows the stupidity and ignorance of Haters/Kobe fanboys. You are completely wrong for saying that, I would be glad to counter your reasons for saying such a stupid thing.

No. Like i said before, Lebron is THE BEST PLAYER in the world/NBA even with Kobe still active. It's fine you don't want to give him that title just yet but the funny thing is, he already had the best player title(now and dating back a few years ago) not Kobe.

I agree with the bolded part 110%...

I see the case you're trying to make for LeBron there and it is legitimate, but the fact still remains, if the Lakers were in the East and Cavs were in the West, Lake Show would probably had made it to the NBA Finals countless times. Again, the only real big team then were the Detroit Pistons.

But, I'm not a big What If guy so I'll just leave that alone. And yes, LeBron is a better PASSER than Kobe no doubt. He's younger and able to do things that Kobe now at his age cannot. However, there are several things Kobe has that LeBron can't show me that he has on a consistent basis.

He isn't clutch enough for me, his leadership skills aren't on par with Kobe's. Kobe Bryant will coach the players alongside Mike Brown when he's not on the court. He see's things others do not see. And please don't let me start talking about the many times I've seen LeBron QUIT on his team during the Playoffs smh...

And then this is the sad part... Kobe Bryant is older and gets injured a hell of a lot more than LeBron does. LeBron had this elbow injury, that wasn't that serious and acted like he couldn't do anything one series against the Celtics. It was sad. Kobe plays with broken fingers, banged up knees, legs injuries and more every single season and he still gives you numbers in the Playoffs. I've seen growth from LeBron but he still has a lot of work to do in order to be considered the best in my opinion.

No. The Lakers wouldn't of made it to the NBA Finals "countless of times" back then. You are really downplaying the East as if they were some bums, which they weren't. Yes the West was better than the East but it's still a difficult task to make it to the NBA Finals whether they played in the East or the West.

Your point is? great players adapt with age man. Also even a prime Kobe couldn't do some of athletic things Lebron can do, there isn't a need for me to explain this, it's pretty obvious. List the things Kobe does consistently that Lebron can't, then I'll debate if you are wrong or not and then i'll list what Lebron can do consistently that Kobe can't do.

There is no question that Kobe is the most clutch player. But if you are saying Lebron isn't then you are wrong. "his leadership aren't on par with Kobe's", that is debatable. I already explained to you in the other thread why he is so there isn't a need for me to go into detail. But lets say hypothetically that he isn't on par with Kobe's leadership skills, does that mean in your eyes that he isn't better than Kobe? Lebron coaches his teammates, and see's things often that others don't see, along with many other players in the league too. I'm begging you to get started on him "Quitting" in which I would destroy that false misconception that haters think. Go ahead bruh ;D

Are you implying that since Kobe gets injured more and plays that he is better? The whole injury argument means nothing, it's not the type of thing to boast about. It's a good thing that Lebron doesn't get hurt often unlike Kobe. No he didn't act like he couldn't do anything against the Celtics, you along with Lebron haters must of been watching something different from everybody else. All you are proving is that Kobe is injury prone, your point is? I will finish off by saying Lebron is the best no matter if you like it or not. It's the truth. ;D

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[Better]

goddamn i forgot

the weekend has come U_U

and so has PUU xd

thread might be shut down lol

 

[Boa Hancock]

Lebron's versatility on defense allows him to guard positions 1-5, no other player can do that.

Many players throughout history can do that. Magic Johnson? Elgin Baylor? Oscar Robertson?

Oh, you want current? Shawn Marion.

Please. :sy:

• FUN FACT: In game 5 the announcers gave out a statistic that when Melo was guarded by Lebron he had a low field goal percentage of 30%

Any elite player will always have his nemesis. Fun fact: Durant's average PPG is 12 ppg against Grant Hill of the Phoenix Suns. That's his lowest scoring average over any position matchup. Against Lebron? 25. Does that mean Grant Hill is a better player than Lebron?

See, never bring up those kinds of statistics because they're entirely situational.

 

[PUU]

Many players throughout history can do that. Magic Johnson? Elgin Baylor? Oscar Robertson?

Oh, you want current? Shawn Marion.

Please. :sy:



Any elite player will always have his nemesis. Fun fact: Durant's average PPG is 12 ppg against Grant Hill of the Phoenix Suns. That's his lowest scoring average over any position matchup. Against Lebron? 25. Does that mean Grant Hill is a better player than Lebron?

See, never bring up those kinds of statistics because they're entirely situational.

*sigh*
"Many players throughout history can do that." No, the level in which lebron defends positions 1-5 isn't common. If i didn't state in my post, i was talking about current players but i'll play around and go through the players you just listed.

Magic? hell no, versatility on offense yes, he didn't defend at the level as lebron does at each position

Baylor? same thing as Magic... not on the same level for each position

Oscar Robertson? the only one you could probably make a case for outta your list, but i don't think so. offensively yes.

Shawn Marion? Definitely not on the same level, 5's would give him huge problems

Bolded: link please, i don't doubt the PPG but i want to see the field goal percentages of Durant when that single player(not team) is guarding him. Like i said in my post a player doesn't score all of their points on a single player. And even if he scores 25 PPG when Lebron is guarding him if Durant takes alot of shots to get that number then it doesn't really mean shit.

And anyways i stated a great overall game determines who is better not just one side of the ball so i don't know why you are acting like i was implying that it only takes great defense:flaw:

 

[Killer Vision]

Lebron is the most versatile player since magic & pippen,

He can legitamately play the 1,2,3,4 position without any problem no matter who's his assignment on the other side of the court.

 

[hatusi]

i would say kobe

 

[aa27]

Holy shit PUU, they should call you a keyboard ninja lol.

 

[PUU]

goddamn i forgot

the weekend has come U_U

and so has PUU xd

thread might be shut down lol

Holy shit PUU, they should call you a keyboard ninja lol.

:scorps:

xd

 

[Boa Hancock]

*sigh*
"Many players throughout history can do that." No, the level in which lebron defends positions 1-5 isn't common. If i didn't state in my post, i was talking about current players but i'll play around and go through the players you just listed.

Magic? hell no, versatility on offense yes, he didn't defend at the level as lebron does at each position

Baylor? same thing as Magic... not on the same level for each position

Oscar Robertson? the only one you could probably make a case for outta your list, but i don't think so. offensively yes.

Shawn Marion? Definitely not on the same level, 5's would give him huge problems

Bolded: link please, i don't doubt the PPG but i want to see the field goal percentages of Durant when that single player(not team) is guarding him. Like i said in my post a player doesn't score all of their points on a single player. And even if he scores 25 PPG when Lebron is guarding him if Durant takes alot of shots to get that number then it doesn't really mean shit.

And anyways i stated a great overall game determines who is better not just one side of the ball so i don't know why you are acting like i was implying that it only takes great defense:flaw:

You don't even know what you're talking about! xd

Magic? He played all 5 positions at one point!
Baylor? He filled in for an injured Willis Reed!
Oscar? Well I'm just guesstimating this one and relying on hearsay, but he did defend when called upon.
Marion? Not on the same level? What man, you don't watch the Mavs? You didn't watch the NBA back in 2005, 2006, 2007?

I guess you haven't heard of Tyrus Thomas then, or Boris Diaw, or Stephen Jackson, Kevin Garnett back on the wolves, Lamar Odom. Same level my arse. They're all playing in the NBA, which is more or less the same level. You'd be right if they were playing in the D-League.

I actually don't have links, but Durant was routinely shut down in games versus the Suns. The reason why the Suns lose to the Thunder is because of Westbrook and Harden, sometimes Ibaka, but never Durant.



Lebron has NEVER shut down Durant to 10 points before, that I'm sure. The reason why KD has 30 points is because Grant had to rotate with Jared Dudley and Shannon Brown. But when Hill guarded Durant, KD didn't shoot anything. He was 10-27 that night.

You were talking about how guarding 5 positions at one point has never been done before, I called you out on it since it's obviously false.

 

[PUU]

You don't even know what you're talking about! xd

Magic? He played all 5 positions at one point!
Baylor? He filled in for an injured Willis Reed!
Oscar? Well I'm just guesstimating this one and relying on hearsay, but he did defend when called upon.
Marion? Not on the same level? What man, you don't watch the Mavs? You didn't watch the NBA back in 2005, 2006, 2007?

I guess you haven't heard of Tyrus Thomas then, or Boris Diaw, or Stephen Jackson, Kevin Garnett back on the wolves, Lamar Odom. Same level my arse. They're all playing in the NBA, which is more or less the same level. You'd be right if they were playing in the D-League.

I actually don't have links, but Durant was routinely shut down in games versus the Suns. The reason why the Suns lose to the Thunder is because of Westbrook and Harden, sometimes Ibaka, but never Durant.



Lebron has NEVER shut down Durant to 10 points before, that I'm sure.

You were talking about how guarding 5 positions at one point has never been done before, I called you out on it since it's obviously false.

i don't know what i'm talking about... bitch please:sy:

Magic was more of a help defender than a individual defender. he could not guard all 5 positions at the level as lebron can:flaw:

And your point is? i'm am talking about the versatility level of defending, not who he replaced:sy:

Your not really making a case for Oscar so.... yea

boi i pay attention to all of the teams in the NBA, but from what i'm seeing from you it seems you don't. Marion, he was versatile on defense but again he was not on the same level as lebron man. I've have seen lebron put players from drose to D12 on lock bruh more than once when he was guarding them.

pfft... please, your basketball intelligence is not on my level man so i don't know why you're naming players you know damn well i know.

tyrus thomas:rofl: you are reaching on that one
boris diaw same thing with tyrus
lamar odom same thing with the ones above
stephen jackson and kg... now you are speaking with some sense, still not all 5 positions at lebrons level. try again man:sy:

the reason why the suns loses to okc is because if their piss poor defense:|

*sigh* since it seems you cannot comprehend what i was saying i'll tell you again it doesn't matter how many points durant scores solely on lebron when he is the only one guarding him, if he takes alot of shots to get those points it doesn't mean shit man.:sy:

no i didn't, you fail. btw you didn't call out shit man, your arguments are piss poor at best

 

[Boa Hancock]

i don't know what i'm talking about... bitch please:sy:

Magic was more of a help defender than a individual defender. he could not guard all 5 positions at the level as lebron can:flaw:

And your point is? i'm am talking about the versatility level of defending, not who he replaced:sy:

Your not really making a case for Oscar so.... yea

boi i pay attention to all of the teams in the NBA, but from what i'm seeing from you it seems you don't. Marion, he was versatile on defense but again he was not on the same level as lebron man. I've have seen lebron put players from drose to D12 on lock bruh more than once when he was guarding them.

pfft... please, your basketball intelligence is not on my level man so i don't know why you're naming players you know damn well i know.

tyrus thomas:rofl: you are reaching on that one
boris diaw same thing with tyrus
lamar odom same thing with the ones above
stephen jackson and kg... now you are speaking with some sense ,still not all 5 positions at lebrons level. try again man:sy:

the reason why the suns loses to okc is because of their piss poor defense:|

*sigh* since it seems you cannot comprhend what i was saying i'll tell you again it doesn't matter how many points durant scores solely on lebron when he is the only one guarding him, he he takes alot of shots it doesn't mean shit man.:sy:

no i didn't, you fail. btw you didn't call out shit man, your arguments are piss poor at best

xdxdxdxd

Are you trolling me? I'm pretty sure I presented all my arguments in order, yet you just go and call my arguments piss-poor? You haven't even presented one damn fact yourself! You say you know more about the NBA than I do? I'm sure of one thing and one thing only right now, I usually don't go parade my knowledge about things I know, but I can confidently say you're a fanboy and a young kid who only started watching the NBA. :flaw:



MAGIC. PLAYED. CENTER. WHICH. MEANS. HE. DEFENDED. AT. CENTER. AS. WELL. HAS. LEBRON. DONE. THAT? NO. NOT. YET.

Good enough for you? Well then let's continue.

Oscar Robertson. His nickname is ALL-AROUND.

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Hello :sy:

Shawn Marion and Boris Diaw:

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Diaw plays F-C. Marion rotates when Amare goes to the bench. Not enough?

With reserve point guard Hudson also injured, the Timberwolves alternated between third playmaker Darrick Martin and shooting guard Fred Hoiberg at the "one", or even running Garnett himself as point forward or a real point guard. The Los Angeles Lakers pulled off a 4–2 victory in the series.

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I can't find others' since they're not star players, but you get the point.

DISPROVE THE FACTS OR GTFO. You just got burned sir.

I still have the Durant stats in waiting.