Itachi vs. All 3 Sannins

[GodOfTheUchiha]

lol, you're ridiculous.

Tehee, btw, I actually think most of you're threads are good, however, you messed up on this one. Itachi would eat them alive.

 

[Easyfathom]

Sannins. With ease.
You mentioned something about the yata mirror and the blade of Totsuka... Well what is Itachi going to do when 5 mins in Susanoo he dies from sickness? Hmmm...

Honestly, I don't see Itachi taking down any of them.

 

[Ryuu..]

Tehee, btw, I actually think most of you're threads are good, however, you messed up on this one. Itachi would eat them alive.

Fair enough, you have your opinion, but it's.............

 

[Blaze Release]

Tehee, btw, I actually think most of you're threads are good, however, you messed up on this one. Itachi would eat them alive.

Okay my suspicions have been confirmed.
*Looks at join date*. Has to be an itachi hater alt .

 

[LolaxXx]

Hmmm, that's actually an excellent point... among the first on this damned thread. (Too many people not willing to explain their opinions)

Well if goes on Susano'o and uses the Yata mirror to stall and then get Amaterasu ready they're screwed. Plus all he has to do is look at them, and bang instant kill with Tsukuyomi.

orochimaru himself is ridiculously fast. He already knows how itachi uses genjutsu so they will formulate a plan to stay close enough to eachother to snap eachother out of the genjutsu if they are caught. So normal genjutsu wont work to kill sanin, fireball jutsus would be useless as well. Amaterasu? Orochimaru and Manda can easily avoid by shedding their skin really fast. Tsunade can continuous regenerate so she will never die from the flames, and Jiraya can easily buy a few seconds to seal amaterasu flames. Susano, will be caught by swamp of the underworld. Frog sound justsu will affect him too.

 

[Raito]

1 vs 1 he defeats them. None will take him to high diff.
Against all 3 he loses with low to mid diff

I agree. 1vs.1 Itachi takes a Sannin (Jiraiya for example) without much trouble but he can't take all 3 at once.

 

[GodOfTheUchiha]

Okay my suspicions have been confirmed.
*Looks at join date*. Has to be an itachi hater alt .

Damn it, I had a previous account, something "SageOfThe6Paths" I remember Ryyu commenting on my thread "Who knows" and then he put my comment "It's an honour to have you comment on this thread" in his sig or something, I forgot my password and I made a new account >.> I do not hate Itachi, as I said earlier he's my favourite character. Please, no more of the Itachi hate. Also what does "Alt" mean?

 

[Kakashi Fang]

Who thinks I'm trolling?

 

[GodOfTheUchiha]

OK, I have also now come to the conclusion and agreed with Blaze Release. One on One he wins with low-mid diff, but 3 on 1 he looses. Thanks for participating guys.

 

[Blaze Release]

Damn it, I had a previous account, something "SageOfThe6Paths" I remember Ryyu commenting on my thread "Who knows" and then he put my comment "It's an honour to have you comment on this thread." I do not hate Itachi, as I said earlier he's my favourite character. Please, no more of the Itachi hate.

Meh fair enough. Anyway sannins win U_U

 

[Chakra Wizard]

orochimaru himself is ridiculously fast. He already knows how itachi uses genjutsu so they will formulate a plan to stay close enough to eachother to snap eachother out of the genjutsu if they are caught. So normal genjutsu wont work to kill sanin, fireball jutsus would be useless as well. Amaterasu? Orochimaru and Manda can easily avoid by shedding their skin really fast. Tsunade can continuous regenerate so she will never die from the flames, and Jiraya can easily buy a few seconds to seal amaterasu flames. Susano, will be caught by swamp of the underworld. Frog sound justsu will affect him too.

Took most of the words right out of my mouth Don't forget the Beast's stomach jutsu that Jiraiya has, as well. If he's got Orochimaru and Tsunade outside when Itachi uses Ameratsu to escape it, he'll end up cornered, and we've already seen that Tsunade can break through Susanoo. Check and mate, basically

 

[obscoral]

OK, I have also now come to the conclusion and agreed with Blaze Release. One on One he wins with low-mid diff, but 3 on 1 he looses. Thanks for participating guys.

thx for ignoring my posts

 

[GodOfTheUchiha]

Meh fair enough. Anyway sannins win U_U

Finally, cleared those damn lies out of the way xD
and what does Alt mean

 

[GodOfTheUchiha]

I'd just like to conclude this thread. Like I said earlier, thanks to those who participated. Ryuu, sorry for any rude comments, and to everyone else too xD

Have a good day people...

 

[Kakashi Fang]

Kakashi defeats all the above with Kamui!!!!!

I'm serious, look at my face>>>> 

 

[GodOfTheUchiha]

thx for ignoring my posts

Haha, I still think Itachi would stand a chance against them, but in the start you and I were too arrogant, oh well. Itachi is still the best U_U

 

[GodOfTheUchiha]

Kakashi defeats all the above with Kamui!!!!!

I'm serious, look at my face>>>> 

xd

 

[-Vegeta-]

Finally, cleared those damn lies out of the way xD
and what does Alt mean

Alternate

 

[obscoral]

Haha, I still think Itachi would stand a chance against them, but in the start you and I were too arrogant, oh well. Itachi is still the best U_U

of course i was arrogant! cough*uchiha*cough

itachi is always the best dude

 

[Tazzilla88]

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I'm going to quote my post from the Sasuke-Itachi thread because I don't feel like re-typing how to beat Itachi.

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Here's the problem. We haven't seen Tsunade's limit on strength yet so let's not say what her strength can't do.
Secondly, Full Susanoo does not protect from underground and there is an Earth User on this team capable of making a Swamp of the Underworld capable of sinking Manda when his chakra was only at 30 percent. And capable of doing a fire tech that dwarfed Katsuya, Gamabunta, and Manda.
Tsunade and Orochimaru can stall for Jiraiya to prepare Sage Mode. In the meantime he has many other frog summons to fight and help stall while he prepares SM.
Susanoo has 4 weaknesses we know of. The ground, brute strength, extreme heat, and acid. The Sannin have every one of those. The Ground and Heat goes to Jiraiya (Earth release, and he has fire techs such as Toad Oil Flame Bullet and Goemon). Tsunade has the brute strength and the acid via katsuya.
Obviously, the next argument to come up is Genjutsu. But consider this Jiraiya has at least 4 summons he has used in battle and another one he was going to use against kisame, there is katsuyu, Manda, Orochimaru, Jiraiya and Tsunade. That is 10 beings that must be caught in genjutsu at once. If the bros don't watch the sannin they'd break out themselves, but if they keep an eye on the sannin the summons can insert chakra into those affected by genjutsu or physically hurt them to get out of genjutsu. In fact if a mini katsuyu is on everyone's back like a leech she'd only have to insert chakra or do a mini acid. If they go for the controlling the summons then the sannin will just release them from the genjutsu. If everyone on team Sannin, summons included had a Katsuyu on their back while the rest of Katsuyu did battle, if katsuyu got caught anyone can save her and if anyone else got katsuyu could save them.
After genjutsu their is the threat of Amaterasu. That's always the next line of defense. Say they do hit a sannin with it. Orochimaru sheds his skin. Hitting Tsunade with it is a bad idea because the next time she goes to attack them, they'd be screwed trying to put out the black flames she just put on them. If you think well Susanoo will protect them, the flames that were on Sasuke's susanoo were not attacking it but as Mei's lava showed, Susanoo melts and if the black flames are attacking and the flames are hotter than Mei's lava Susanoo will melt and the bros will still be screwed. Amaterasu suppression seems like it takes a lot out of you based on Sasuke's response when he fought Bee. You may argue she'd be in too much Pain to fight back. But I don't think so. She was completely impaled and continued to fight, 3 yasaka magatamas at point blank range didn't stop her, nor did hemophobia in conjunction with the sword of kusanagi's three wounds and Kabuto cutting her abdomen, respiratory, and bicep muscles. Which leaves Jiraiya its a well known fact that Jiraiya has fire seals. We also know that a regular katon can fight Amaterasu because Sasuke did it. This is speculation and isn't really included in my argument but jiraiya took those flames for research he may have found there weakness as Itachi says every jutsu has a weakness and he is amaterasu user. So spamming Amaterasu would be a lost cause here. End of the speculation disclaimer. In addition Sage Mode allows you to sense and Jiraiya would sense speedy attacks and thanks to his reflex boost from SM be able to dodge in all likelihood. Which brings us to Susanoo arrows. Orochimaru has his Rashoumon Gates, Body Shedding, Gathering of Snakes, and Slithering Snake. Jiraiya has his sensing and his reflexes and Tsunade has her Byakougou. Oro has info on Itachi, and sasuke's abilities are really only that of Itachi's sense they are the same eyes.
Let's not forget Jiraiya's unnamed Barrier that IIRC took out the human path. Should someone mistakenly enter it, they die. The bros can't just safely sit in Susanoo and win. If they come to use taijutsu against Jiraiya and don't know about the barrier, one of them dies. 1 vs the 3 will lose.

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Your assuming Katsuyu's acid can do nothing to Susanoo but you have nothing to support your claim. We've seen that Susanoo is weak to acid. We've never seen it withstand acid. Katsuyu's acid melts through solid rock. Mei's lava melted the Susanoo skeleton. Goemon would have no trouble doing the same. With 7 summons present he'd need to get all of them in genjutsu at once and stop the sannin from awakening them. And as I've stated Katsuyu is the counter to Genjutsu with such large numbers. Orochimaru prime and Tsunade and 5 summons are more than enough to stall for the preparation of Jiraiya's sage Mode. You don't actually have any proof to support your conclusion except (Uh Itachi beat Orochimaru, and Sasuke beat an Orochimaru on his deathbed.) Those arguments fail as Oro didn't have intent to harm at all. He only wanted to take over the body against Itachi. Oro was half dead when he fought sasuke. Tsunade provides rather good counters to the sharingan. But I've already explained why they will not lose.

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So I assume every one is standing perfectly still so the bros can pull this of right(genjutsu spam and amaterasu spam). Because the summons will be looking the uchihas in the eye and while casting genjutsu they will simultaneously spamming amaterasu and shooting arrows. Susanoo arrow against Tsunade is pointless and Katsuya can just let the part of her that is on fire separate from the rest of her. But with it becoming a 10 on two fight I really don't see this techs just being spammed. With ten on one opponents can overwhelm When have we ever seen a full susanoo dodge a large attack. Show me one page. Susanoo may be tougher than a rib cage but when Susanoo is melting it is also weaker. Jiraiya can melt it and so can Katsuyu. And Tsunade is stronger than raikage and if raikage with oonoki's help can do this much damage to a melting susanoo one step away from being complete

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(even with Oonoki's help he didn't crack a healthy (not melting) susanoo rib cage) (it took his strongest tech against Sasuke (full body slam aka raiger bomb)to break a rib on the rib cage where as a punch from Tsunade cracked several ribs and a single punch snapped the sword) then there is no logical reason Tsunade can't do the same to a melting full Susanoo or why several strikes won't break through Susanoo. She doesn't have to finish Susanoo with one punch.

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wow wat thats all u got hahahah heal the leaf i think not her slug did tht not here get ur facts straight.

lol wat fire tec does tsunade have please let me kno?


ur going to make eye contact no matter wat so please dont say anything stupid like dat thats y gai said look at there feet an asuma said thats not easy we dont have ur training.

I'll save you the trouble of looking up Healing Chakra Transmission

A combination technique between Tsunade and her slug summon Katsuyu. First, Katsuyu divides her body into many smaller clones, and then attaches herself to several persons. Tsunade then channels her medical chakra through Katsuyu, who transfers it to the wounded person, healing them. This technique allows Tsunade to heal an enormous number of people at the same time regardless of distance. If she runs out of normal chakra, she can use her special reserves to continue the technique. While using this technique, Tsunade is apparently also able to communicate directly with Katsuyu as well as have a sense of what Katsuyu experiences as seen with her reaction after Katsuyu finds Kakashi on the battlefield.

So it was Tsunade's chakra.
Edit: This is Tsunade using the technique

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I think what confused you was Danzo's mention of Katsuyu's techniques later in the chapter but he was referring to her Great Division and Tsunade being able to channel chakra through Katsuyu as that isn't typical of most summons


2ndly you asked

amateratsu on tsunade is pointless wat how when the flames will never go away

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Because then she could continually set Susanoo or them on fire until she runs out of chakra and stamina. (and she has enough stamina to heal the hidden leaf, and she has enough stamina to use CR at the beginning of a fight, heal Oonoki and Gaara back to full power, then heal Mei, then regrow her stomach organs twice Byakougou.) so she'd be more dangerous for quite a while.

She would be on fire with Amaterasu flames and the brothers would have to continually squander chakra suppressing the flames of Amaterasu. Strategically it is a bad move setting her on fire.
Your going to make eye contact because why? Making eye contact doesn't help you at all. When I was learning martial arts we were taught to look at the body as it better shows what attack is next. Even with ninja, looking into eyes are pointless. Most jutsus come from hands and the jutsus that are optical can't be seen. So no looking someone in the eye makes no logical sense.

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@ the last part Your reaching for eye contact. There's no rational reason why either Jiraiya or Tsunade would look them in the eye and I'm certain non sharingan genjutsus can be broken out of by Tsunade and by SM Jiraiya you completely ignored the katsuyu argument used before in response to genjutsu.

And if Orochimaru hasn't learned his lesson about looking an Uchiha in the eye by now he does not deserve his 5 in intelligence.
Now let me say this now so I am not misunderstood again. Tsunade CANNOT solo Itachi

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If Tsunade loses it won't be a great loss. She is a very good counter to Uchihas in general. The Same way Hashirama was a good counter to Madara and his Mokuton a good counter to Kurama.
Allow me to lay out my case.

• Amaterasu covered Susanoo- Tsunade can rip off or Medically Cut off her arm or leg or whatever. And guessing by how she regrew all those organs she lost when her entire stomach was impaled she can probably regrow them. Furthermore when know she has an incredible mental fortitude that allows her to work through pain as shown by her defending Naruto and launching an attack after being Stabbed by the sword of kusanagi and sliced by it.
• Tsukuyomi- Firstly I believe she has the mental fortitude to withstand Tsukuyomi considering she overcame her paralyzing hemophobia with sheer will power.Further more we all know that Tsukuyomi is genjutsu. Of all characters living she has the best chakra control. We know her chakra control is great because she says healing requires a lot of chakra. Yet she healed an entire village.
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  Genjutsu is created when a ninja extends their chakra flow through the cerebral nervous system of their opponent to control their mind's chakra, thereby affecting their five senses.

  You may now say Itachi said only Closely related Uchihas can break Tsukuyomi. If you consider that Itachi lies to protect his brother and he plotted for his brother to get his eyes. Then if anyone knew this wasn't true that would put Sasuke in danger. Thus we're not sure if Itachi's words are true. As she can treat Tsukuyomi.
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  Judging by how easily it was cured. I say she has a pretty good knowledge about how Tsukuyomi works and how exactly it affects the brain. In addition we know she lived to meet her Grandfather and GrandUncle. Her Grandfather fought against Madara several times so no doubt he taught her not to get trapped in Genjutsu and not to look an Uchiha in the eyes. Furthermore I'm sure he would have showed her a technique similar to Gai's sharigan avoidance. Given Gai isn't that smart. (He thought Kisame was his true self.) I see know reason Tsunade can't do the same. And we don't know how Uchiha genjutsu's affect people of the Senju clan. Itachi probably never fought an Senju and wouldn't have known whether they were capable of breaking it or not. And I imagine Madara and the Elder son of the So6P would have had an easier time if Senju's fell pray to their Genjutsus. In addition a mini katsuya on her shoulder would be able to inject chakra into Tsunade's system.
• Susanoo- Tsunade's punch shatter cracked Susanoo's ribs
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  Her kick shatter Susanoo's ribs
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  Some of you may say well the other Kages helped. My answer is that they didn't help with this
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  You guys may say A full susanoo is stronger, but if one her punches creates such damage to a version of Susanoo it's really only a matter of strikes til full Susanoo gives way. We also know that Raikage punched through Susanoo's skelton (with Oonoki's help) after Mei melted it with lava
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  Tsunade has Katsuya to provide melting via acid and Tsunade is still physically stronger than the A and Oonoki combo (as only her hits actually broke Susanoo's ribs when he reformed them though A and Oonoki tried) she should be able to do the same.
• Fire Release- Her skin will be burned but it's tankable.
• Yasaka Magatama- She literally tanked three of them right after being impaled.

Itachi I would say wins only because of his acquisition of the yata mirror and the sword of Totsuka
However, if Itachi has taken her as lightly as his fans do and doesn't use those two items then Tsunade can take him, with her strength, her summon, her medical knowledge, her regeneration, her poison, and her Pathway Disturbance. If at any point any of her attacks make contact with his actual body then He's done. The fact of the matter remains Tsunade is a top tier shinobi with the counters to the sharingan.

Notice he would have to not have his weapons for to have a chance at it. Even then it's a small chance. He will user his weapons so she can't do it alone. When I talked about Amaterasu add what I said in the Itachi-Sasuke thread about it being bad strategy for Tsunade there.

And considering all three are probably great sealers
Tsunade is the oldest living Uzumaki we are aware of and she lived long enough to meet the other members of her clan and learn her clan techniques. In addition she has 2 techniques within one seal (Byakougou and Creation Rebirth) which must require great knowledge of seals.
Orochimaru studied forbidden jutsus and doubtlessly fuuinjutsus as we saw he easily threw out the 5 elements seal to combat the seal Minato put on Naruto
Jiraiya has been shown to have knowledge on seals (5 elements unseal, Fire Sealing, Naruto's seal, etc. )
So once they immobilize Itachi, they need only seal him before he recovers.