You DO realize I'm talking about the Tobi with the yellow tigerstripe mask, the Tobi who fought Minato, the Tobi who was shown before the Uchiha Massacre, the Tobi who didn't have a surplus supply of sharingans right?
So having a different opinion than you makes someone an idiot? lol. Besides, have you forgotten the fact that Izuna's name wasn't mentioned in the manga? And that Madara said he was dead? And that Izuna's eyelids don't look like Tobi's.
We have enough data ... to consider tobi being izuna ... we have the reason .. the power .... the wish of looking up to madaras name ...... same goal as madara... the age .... the reason of why tobi has normal sharingan .....and many angles that are coverd..etc.... there is 90% that tobi is izuna ... so yes .. the obito ... and all other assumption are retarded....because they do not cover all the angles
we speak about a fictional story where everything is possible ... go and wash your ass with your theory
no this thread is about possible identity... and this is not a theory ... there are lot of info about tobi is izuna just use the search ....
You're missing the point. Madara was talking about the legacy izuna left to him, which was his eyes. It's not as simple as Madara just brought back with the rinnegan. Tobi being Izuna is too obvious. I actually do like the theory but it's ridiculous and has way too many holes. You shouldn't say every other theory is retarded just because you only like yours. And alot of other theories DO cover all angles. And, even if they don't it's because Kishi hasn't let more information out yet. There are plenty of other great theories that make more sense than Tobi being Izuna. And no, his name wasn't in the manga. He has only ever been reffered to as "Madara's brother".
It's not the most plausible just cuz alot of the people on this specific site believe it.
Every theory is full of holes, we don't know enough information yet to draw accurate conclusions or else we'd know who Tobi is 100%
Dont judge thinks with how they look and the weapons... that is not a solid prooff apparance can be changed ...
He is indeed random but why has kishi put him in the databook...?! He didnt add all the other random uchihas in the panel. Kishi hid the fact that minato was naruto father although it was very obvious. There are no holes in setsuna = tobi. Since he was alive during the second hokage time so he could very well met madara.
Tobi is not anywhere NEAR Madara's power. IF anything, that's proof of him being Obito since he's so weak. He just used the "shell of his former self" excuse so people wouldn't think he wasn't Madara due to him being so weak compared to Madara. tobi's still very strong, just not as strong as Uchiha Madara.Dont judge thinks with how they look and the weapons... that is not a solid prooff apparance can be changed ...
This is one good proof
setsuna is just a foodder character.... and we need someone who could have the same power as madara ... madara controled kurama .... tobi had controled kurama...
are you saying setsuna could control kurama ? xd
setsuna is equal in power as madara ? xd
in the manga its staited that izuna and madara where equal in power and they both got MS
hope you see my point ... and this is not a theory this is just a logical thought
yeah i will be extremely surprise if he is not setsuna. And i will be fairly disappointed if he is obito ><
You dont get the point we need someone who could control kurama like madara had controled kurama and that thing is not that easy
Chill, man. I believe it's him too, but it ain't any reason to spew trash like that.
Madara did say Izuna was dead, but he also referred to Tobi as "that someone" upon appearing in front of the allied shinobi. He has no idea who Tobi is, so as far as HE knows, Izuna is dead. And considering Hashirama and Madara fought almost 70 years ago and Izuna supposedly died BEFORE that, he probably doesn't have the same eyelids he had when he was younger.
Yes, most of the facts are there, but I highly doubt he was resurrected. There are only 3 three methods of this that we know of. I doubt Chiyo had her technique before the 3rd Shinobi War, I'm positive that Tobi isn't under anyone's control (unless Tobirama used it and he was freed from his control after he died), and I'm sure that Madara didn't use the Outer Path before his death(Izuna was long dead before the fight at the Valley of the End). I think that Madara was only told of Izuna's death and that the flashback to him in his coffin isn't genuine.
There's just so many similarities between Tobi and Setsuna. I doubt that it would be a coincidence.
ANYONE can control kurama if they have both Uchiha and Senju DNA. So, that argument is gone.
