[Theory] Tobi: Thread for all Tobi theories and related discussions .

[Chakra Wizard]

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I'm split between Tobi being Izuna, Zetsu, or a Senju or an Uzumaki member (in order of most probable imo).

 

[0moi]

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You DO realize that Tobi was shown to have 2 sharingans during his fight with konan, right? The one eye hole was probably symbolism of the Moon.

You DO realize I'm talking about the Tobi with the yellow tigerstripe mask, the Tobi who fought Minato, the Tobi who was shown before the Uchiha Massacre, the Tobi who didn't have a surplus supply of sharingans right?

 

[Orochimagus]

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Not saying Tobi is Obito for sure, but it does not matter of Obito did not have a motive BEFORE the incident happened. If Madara took Obito as his student, he'd be able to mold his heart to suit his tastes. We also don't know how Rin died, but there's a chance Madara could have blamed the leaf for her death.

 

[alexu9696]

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tobi=izuna ... all non belivers are a bunch of idiots ...

 

[TobiIsYourMom]

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Not saying Tobi is Obito for sure, but it does not matter of Obito did not have a motive BEFORE the incident happened. If Madara took Obito as his student, he'd be able to mold his heart to suit his tastes. We also don't know how Rin died, but there's a chance Madara could have blamed the leaf for her death.

Nice. Too bad not many people consider this......

tobi=izuna ... all non belivers are a bunch of idiots ...

So having a different opinion than you makes someone an idiot? lol. Besides, have you forgotten the fact that Izuna's name wasn't mentioned in the manga? And that Madara said he was dead? And that Izuna's eyelids don't look like Tobi's.

 

[alexu9696]

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Nice. Too bad not many people consider this......




So having a different opinion than you makes someone an idiot? lol. Besides, have you forgotten the fact that Izuna's name wasn't mentioned in the manga? And that Madara said he was dead? And that Izuna's eyelids don't look like Tobi's.

We have enough data ... to consider tobi being izuna ... we have the reason .. the power .... the wish of looking up to madaras name ...... same goal as madara... the age .... the reason of why tobi has normal sharingan .....and many angles that are coverd..etc.... there is 90% that tobi is izuna ... so yes .. the obito ... and all other assumption are retarded....because they do not cover all the angles

Note: izuna name was in the manga .. tobi has said about him and clench his arm when saying about him ( because he is izuna )

madara has said his brother is dead ... because izuna has died .. that dosent mean he was not later resurrected ...

 

[cozolinofly]

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We have enough data ... to consider tobi being izuna ... we have the reason .. the power .... the wish of looking up to madaras name ...... same goal as madara... the age .... the reason of why tobi has normal sharingan .....and many angles that are coverd.... there is 90% that tobi is izuna ... so yes .. the obito ... and all other assumption are retarded....because they do not cover all the angles

Note: izuna name was in the manga .. tobi has said abotu him and clench his arm when saying about him ( because he is izuna )

madara has said his brother is dead ... because izuna has died .. that dosent mean he was not later resurrected ...

we speak about a fictional story where everything is possible ... go and wash your ass with your theory

 

[alexu9696]

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we speak about a fictional story where everything is possible ... go and wash your ass with your theory

no this thread is about possible identity... and this is not a theory ... there are lot of info about tobi is izuna just use the search ....

Note: Look in the poll .. izuna uchiha is the most posssible theory .. some people use the brain others dont ....

 

[Aze]

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no this thread is about possible identity... and this is not a theory ... there are lot of info about tobi is izuna just use the search ....

Note: Look in the poll .. izuna uchiha is the most posssible theory .. some people use the brain others dont ....

Currently by all data , it all supports Tobi being Izuna , since he has the Motive , and hes age supports it.

So I agree + rep.​

 

[TobiIsYourMom]

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We have enough data ... to consider tobi being izuna ... we have the reason .. the power .... the wish of looking up to madaras name ...... same goal as madara... the age .... the reason of why tobi has normal sharingan .....and many angles that are coverd..etc.... there is 90% that tobi is izuna ... so yes .. the obito ... and all other assumption are retarded....because they do not cover all the angles

Note: izuna name was in the manga .. tobi has said him and clench his arm when saying about him ( because he is izuna )

madara has said his brother is dead ... because izuna has died .. that dosent mean he was not later resurrected ...

You're missing the point. Madara was talking about the legacy izuna left to him, which was his eyes. It's not as simple as Madara just brought back with the rinnegan. Tobi being Izuna is too obvious. I actually do like the theory but it's ridiculous and has way too many holes. You shouldn't say every other theory is retarded just because you only like yours. And alot of other theories DO cover all angles. And, even if they don't it's because Kishi hasn't let more information out yet. There are plenty of other great theories that make more sense than Tobi being Izuna. And no, his name wasn't in the manga. He has only ever been reffered to as "Madara's brother".

I mean, hell, even SHISUI would make more sense than Izuna IMO.

no this thread is about possible identity... and this is not a theory ... there are lot of info about tobi is izuna just use the ....

Note: Look in the poll .. izuna uchiha is the most posssible theory .. some people use the brain others dont ....

It's not the most plausible just cuz alot of the people on this specific site believe it.

 

[Edge]

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You're missing the point. Madara was talking about the legacy izuna left to him, which was his eyes. It's not as simple as Madara just brought back with the rinnegan. Tobi being Izuna is too obvious. I actually do like the theory but it's ridiculous and has way too many holes. You shouldn't say every other theory is retarded just because you only like yours. And alot of other theories DO cover all angles. And, even if they don't it's because Kishi hasn't let more information out yet. There are plenty of other great theories that make more sense than Tobi being Izuna. And no, his name wasn't in the manga. He has only ever been reffered to as "Madara's brother".

I mean, hell, even SHISUI would make more sense than Izuna IMO.







It's not the most plausible just cuz alot of the people on this specific site believe it.

Every theory is full of holes, we don't know enough information yet to draw accurate conclusions or else we'd know who Tobi is 100%

How the hell does the Izuna theory make no sense? Madara and Izuna were both of the Uchiha, they were related, they possessed similar levels of power during their awakening of the MS, Tobi knows about the events of the clan pre-Konoha AND claims to know the truth about what happened between Izuna and Madara. Kabuto hasn't summoned Izuna, Madara may have revived him using Rinne Tensei etc etc

Don't compare the Izuna theory to Shisui when we've already seen Tobi referring to him in the 3rd person as well as both his eyes being repossessed by others (Danzo and Itachi's crow).

Even if it is obvious, what do you expect? Tobi to be a random person? IMO his character (true self) must have some relevance to the plot in which Izuna does. Hell, without his eyes, Madara wouldn't have gained the Rinnegan and his plans with Tobi probably wouldn't have been possible.

What other theories make sense? Obito? Kagami? A "clone" of Madara?

 

[iknowwhotobiis]

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I think it has to be izuna or setsuna. The former because in the panel he was shown in the manga it was written madara in the rock behind him. For me that is kishi making it very obvious he is tobi. Plus, his physical characteristics match. Even the akatsuki cloak is very similar to setsuna outfit (the high collar) he was the one who started the akatsuki afterall. Even the way they place the weapons in their back is similar. The end of the weapons is always on the left pointing upwards.

 

[alexu9696]

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I think it has to be izuna or setsuna. The former because in the panel he was shown in the manga it was written madara in the rock behind him. For me that is kishi making it very obvious he is tobi. Plus, his physical characteristics match. Even the akatsuki cloak is very similar to setsuna outfit (the high collar) he was the one who started the akatsuky afterall. Even the way they place the weapons in their back is similar. The end of the weapons is always on the left pointing upwards.

Dont judge thinks with how they look and the weapons... that is not a solid prooff apparance can be changed ...

This is one good proof

setsuna is just a foodder character.... and we need someone who could have the same power as madara ... madara controled kurama .... tobi had controled kurama...

are you saying setsuna could control kurama ? xd
setsuna is equal in power as madara ? xd

in the manga its staited that izuna and madara where equal in power and they both got MS

hope you see my point ... and this is not a theory this is just a logical thought

 

[TobiIsYourMom]

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Every theory is full of holes, we don't know enough information yet to draw accurate conclusions or else we'd know who Tobi is 100%

How the hell does the Izuna theory make no sense? Madara and Izuna were both of the Uchiha, they were related, they possessed similar levels of power during their awakening of the MS, Tobi knows the events of the clan pre-Konoha AND claims to know the truth about what happened between Izuna and Madara. Kabuto hasn't summoned Izuna, Madara may have revived him using Rinne Tensei etc etc

Don't compare the Izuna theory to Shisui when we've already seen Tobi referring to him in the 3rd person as well as both his eyes being repossessed by others (Danzo and Itachi's crow).

Even if it is obvious, what do you expect? Tobi to be a random person? IMO his character (true self) must have some relevance to the plot in which Izuna does. Hell, without his eyes, Madara wouldn't have gained the Rinnegan and his plans with Tobi probably wouldn't have been possible.

What other theories make sense? Obito? Kagami? A "clone" of Madara?

O_______O Geez, man. That was a really well thought out response. I'm actually reconsidering things now. I still also think it could be Obito too because, well, I don't see anyone else being able to create an emotional reaction in any of the characters fighting Tobi. I just think that it would be pretty cliche for him to be Izuna. It's just that, his physical appearance doesn't match Izuna at all. The eyelids look too short. And the eyeshape is kind of different. i would be an OK twist, i guess.

I think it has to be izuna or setsuna. The former because in the panel he was shown in the manga it was written madara in the rock behind him. For me that is kishi making it very obvious he is tobi. Plus, his physical characteristics match. Even the akatsuki cloak is very similar to setsuna outfit (the high collar) he was the one who started the akatsuki afterall. Even the way they place the weapons in their back is similar. The end of the weapons is always on the left pointing upwards.

Yes, there is alot of evidence pointing towards Setsuna, and I mean, alot! the one thing that really destroys this theory though is the fact that he is WAY too random of a character.

 

[iknowwhotobiis]

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Yes, there is alot of evidence pointing towards Setsuna, and I mean, alot! the one thing that really destroys this theory though is the fact that he is WAY too random of a character.

He is indeed random but why has kishi put him in the databook...?! He didnt add all the other random uchihas in the panel. Kishi hid the fact that minato was naruto father although it was very obvious. There are no holes in setsuna = tobi. Since he was alive during the second hokage time so he could very well met madara.

 

[TobiIsYourMom]

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Dont judge thinks with how they look and the weapons... that is not a solid prooff apparance can be changed ...

This is one good proof

setsuna is just a foodder character.... and we need someone who could have the same power as madara ... madara controled kurama .... tobi had controled kurama...

are you saying setsuna could control kurama ? xd
setsuna is equal in power as madara ? xd

in the manga its staited that izuna and madara where equal in power and they both got MS

hope you see my point ... and this is not a theory this is just a logical thought

Tobi is not anywhere NEAR Madara's power. IF anything, that's proof of him being Obito since he's so weak. He just used the "shell of his former self" excuse so people wouldn't think he wasn't Madara due to him being so weak compared to Madara. tobi's still very strong, just not as strong as Uchiha Madara.

He is indeed random but why has kishi put him in the databook...?! He didnt add all the other random uchihas in the panel.

That's a pretty good point actually. Also, Setsuna's name mean, moment, instant, trying, or oppresive. Tobi is like a moment or instant because he teleports away instantly with his space-time. He is also very oppresive against everything. You know how Kishi is with names. they usually describe their character. So, just maybe.....

 

[iknowwhotobiis]

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That's a pretty good point actually. Also, Setsuna's name mean, moment, instant, trying, or oppresive. Tobi is like a moment or instant because he teleports away instantly with his space-time. He is also very oppresive against everything. You know how Kishi is with names. they usually describe their character. So, just maybe.....

yeah i will be extremely surprise if he is not setsuna. And i will be fairly disappointed if he is obito ><

 

[alexu9696]

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Tobi is not anywhere NEAR Madara's power. IF anything, that's proof of him being Obito since he's so weak. He just used the "shell of his former self" excuse so people wouldn't think he wasn't Madara due to him being so weak compared to Madara. tobi's still very strong, just not as strong as Uchiha Madara.




That's a pretty good point actually. Also, Setsuna's name mean, moment, instant, trying, or oppresive. Tobi is like a moment or instant because he teleports away instantly with his space-time. He is also very oppresive against everything. You know how Kishi is with names. they usually describe their character. So, just maybe.....

You dont get the point we need someone who could control kurama like madara had controled kurama and that thing is not that easy

You need a level of power that is that great.. setsuna is only in a databook and he was juat a member of the Konoha Military Police Force if he had that much power to control kurama he would have been like madara a leader.... or atleast the leader of the police force .... the only one that was staited as powerfull as madara was izuna ... ( izuna could control kurama )

Note: Tobi controled kurama

 

[Chakra Wizard]

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tobi=izuna ... all non belivers are a bunch of idiots ...

Chill, man. I believe it's him too, but it ain't any reason to spew trash like that.

So having a different opinion than you makes someone an idiot? lol. Besides, have you forgotten the fact that Izuna's name wasn't mentioned in the manga? And that Madara said he was dead? And that Izuna's eyelids don't look like Tobi's.

Madara did say Izuna was dead, but he also referred to Tobi as "that someone" upon appearing in front of the allied shinobi. He has no idea who Tobi is, so as far as HE knows, Izuna is dead. And considering Hashirama and Madara fought almost 70 years ago and Izuna supposedly died BEFORE that, he probably doesn't have the same eyelids he had when he was younger.

We have enough data ... to consider tobi being izuna ... we have the reason .. the power .... the wish of looking up to madaras name ...... same goal as madara... the age .... the reason of why tobi has normal sharingan .....and many angles that are coverd..etc.... there is 90% that tobi is izuna ... so yes .. the obito ... and all other assumption are retarded....because they do not cover all the angles

Note: izuna name was in the manga .. tobi has said about him and clench his arm when saying about him ( because he is izuna )

madara has said his brother is dead ... because izuna has died .. that dosent mean he was not later resurrected ...

Yes, most of the facts are there, but I highly doubt he was resurrected. There are only 3 three methods of this that we know of. I doubt Chiyo had her technique before the 3rd Shinobi War, I'm positive that Tobi isn't under anyone's control (unless Tobirama used it and he was freed from his control after he died), and I'm sure that Madara didn't use the Outer Path before his death(Izuna was long dead before the fight at the Valley of the End). I think that Madara was only told of Izuna's death and that the flashback to him in his coffin isn't genuine.

 

[TobiIsYourMom]

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yeah i will be extremely surprise if he is not setsuna. And i will be fairly disappointed if he is obito ><

There's just so many similarities between Tobi and Setsuna. I doubt that it would be a coincidence.

You dont get the point we need someone who could control kurama like madara had controled kurama and that thing is not that easy

You need a level of power that is that great.. setsuna is only in a databook and he was juat a member of the Konoha Military Police Force if he had that much power to control kurama he would have been like madara a leader.... or atleast the leader of the police force .... the only one that was staited as powerfull as madara was izuna ... ( izuna could control kurama )

Note: Tobi controled kurama

ANYONE can control kurama if they have both Uchiha and Senju DNA. So, that argument is gone.