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[spokentruth]

Re: How good Itachi really is.

Didnt read but ok

 

[Gitch]

Re: How good Itachi really is.

I've seen a lot of Itachi vs threads lately so I'd like to discuss Itachi. Itachi graduated at age 7, mastered the Sharingan at age 8, became a chunin at 10 and became

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. This progression is the fastest recorded progression of a ninja in the series. Itachi grew faster than Minato. While Kakashi graduated and became a chunin faster; Itachi became the Captain of ANBU at the same age Kakashi became a Jounin. Kakashi was in ANBU when Itachi became captin, meaning Itachi was Kakashi's boss. Madara and Izuna appeared to

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of the Uchiha in their late teenage years or early 20's. As the Captin of ANBU it is possible that age 13 Itachi was the strongest Uchiha.

According to the data book in Part 3 Itachi rates at 35.5. He has the highest recorded ratings possible(5) in Ninjutsu, genjutsu, Intelligence, speed, and hand seals. In Taijutsu Itachi has a 4.5; in Strength a 3.5 and Stamina a 2.5.

Here is where things get complicated. Itachi was known to be terminally ill and his illness effected at least Itachi's Stamina. It seems logical that Itachi's strength would also be adversely effected. To get a better idea of what a healthy Itachi would be like, he can be compared to a similar ninja, Sasuke.

Part 3 Sasuke has a rating of 31.5. Every Stat Sasuke has is less than or equal to Itachi's except for one, Stamina. Sasuke's Stamina is 3.5 while Itachi's is 2.5. It is safe to say that if Itachi was healthy his stamina would be at least a point higher. Because all of Itachi's other stats while terminally ill are equal to or higher than Sasuke's a case can be made that if Itachi were healthy all of his stats would be even higher and some would exceed the maximum.

This would put Itachi on the level of Uchiha Madara and Tobi. Based on how much is known about Itachi and how little is known about Madara, if Itachi was healthy he would have been on par or greater than Madara at the same age.

Too bad he wasn't.

So if you make a vs. thread with the condition that Itachi is healthy or Edo remeber, that makes Itachi a possibly smarter Madara without the Rinnegan, Meteor Technique or Wood release.

Also, Itachi is still stronger/better than Sasuke; Jiraiya would have died if Itachi wanted to kill Jiraiya, and if Itachi had never gotten sick he would have been at least as strong as Madara and it isn't unreasonable to think Itachi would eventually have been as strong as the Sage of Six Paths.

agreed on everything except bolded part

 

[Dantee]

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Good thread + rep

 

[yuan of cruxis]

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Itachi stats and Hiruzen stats would be pretty much perfect without the illness an old age

 

[NarutoUchia]

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uhh no. Itachi isnt this strong. He is not on the same level as edo Madara. He is a high kage rank equal to bijuu naruto probably a little less. weaker than nagato with six paths.

edo nagato > edo itachi.
Edo madara > edo itachi.
bijuu naruto > edo itachi.
EMS sasuke (current)=Edo itachi (maybe a little less)
Jiriaya would of have died but itachi would probably lose sight making him useless so they are almost equal.

 

[Ghostofthewind]

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Started good, on par with Madara I'd consider(If he was healthy and 20 years older), don't compare him to so6p, ruins the rest.

Thanks. I considered a few things before I thought a healthy Itachi would be on the Sage's level
1) Itachi would have developed the entire time with full stamina
2) The Sage was quite old by the time he made the tailed beasts
(meaning Itachi would have decades to become as strong as the Sage)
3) That moron Naruto is about to become just as strong as the Sage and I'm supposed to sit here and think that Itachi, a genius, couldn't do it?

 

[MorphyRulez]

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You shouldnt say last sentences. You ruined very good thread mate.

 

[Sage of Infinity Paths]

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he is near god of shinobi

 

[Ryuu..]

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isn't unreasonable to think Itachi would eventually have been as strong as the Sage of Six Paths.

Thanks, I needed this kind of nonsense.

 

[sugaplaya]

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i love this. I think Itachi is the 4th best ninja. First 3 being 1st hokage, madara and minato. My list is based on stand alone abilities, stuff that they can do by blood, not borrowed eyes or bijuu power.

 

[Keytaro]

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uhh no. Itachi isnt this strong. He is not on the same level as edo Madara. He is a high kage rank equal to bijuu naruto probably a little less. weaker than nagato with six paths.

edo nagato > edo itachi.
Edo madara > edo itachi.
bijuu naruto > edo itachi.
EMS sasuke (current)=Edo itachi (maybe a little less)
Jiriaya would of have died but itachi would probably lose sight making him useless so they are almost equal.

...... Really? Equal to both Naruto BM and Sasuke EMS? He'd drill a hole in Sasuke and rape that hole after he's done. Then Naruto pops up spams TBB while everything within 5 square miles explodes and vanishes.

 

[NarutoUchia]

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i love this. I think Itachi is the 4th best ninja. First 3 being 1st hokage, madara and minato. My list is based on stand alone abilities, stuff that they can do by blood, not borrowed eyes or bijuu power.

Where is nagato on this list..... Should be at the top.

 

[Keytaro]

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Thanks. I considered a few things before I thought a healthy Itachi would be on the Sage's level
1) Itachi would have developed the entire time with full stamina
2) The Sage was quite old by the time he made the tailed beasts
(meaning Itachi would have decades to become as strong as the Sage)
3) That moron Naruto is about to become just as strong as the Sage and I'm supposed to sit here and think that Itachi, a genius, couldn't do it?

Re-readed the thread while not reading the last sentence. You deserve rep over that.

 

[spokentruth]

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Itachi stats and Hiruzen stats would be pretty much perfect without the illness an old age

Amatarasu > Hiruzen he's shown no speed feats + 3 shadow clones drained his chakra all the way he's weak

 

[Ghostofthewind]

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Re-readed the thread while not reading the last sentence. You deserve rep over that.

So you're saying edit out the last sentence and we're good?

 

[Dantee]

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So you're saying edit out the last sentence and we're good?

Yes : ) xd

 

[Ghostofthewind]

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Yes : ) xd

Alright, it may be a bit of a stretch and enough of you disagree.:shrug:

 

[Hexuze]

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Wow you completely ruined it at the last part :flaw:

How?
It's true... he was never after these abilities like the EMS or rinnegan. If he wanted to he can easily achieve them by killing sasuke.

 

[NarutoUchia]

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Amatarasu > Hiruzen he's shown no speed feats + 3 shadow clones drained his chakra all the way he's weak

He was stated as the strongest hokage ever in his prime.

 

[Ghostofthewind]

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uhh no. Itachi isnt this strong. He is not on the same level as edo Madara. He is a high kage rank equal to bijuu naruto probably a little less. weaker than nagato with six paths.

edo nagato > edo itachi.
Edo madara > edo itachi.
bijuu naruto > edo itachi.
EMS sasuke (current)=Edo itachi (maybe a little less)
Jiriaya would of have died but itachi would probably lose sight making him useless so they are almost equal.

You're right he isn't that strong only because Itachi was sick, as I stated several times. All of your edo comparisons are debatable and I completely disagree with four of them. Itachi vs. Madara is the only one that might go the way you say.

Jiriaya would have been killed. Tsukuyomi. Look it up.