Why jiraiya > itachi full detailed thread on this subject.

[Lt Iceman]

Fu*kind delusional kids

Itachi is stronger than J-man,period

His superiority is not only cemneted by the sole fact that the is holding his own against fighter who are above Jiraya(Nagato,Kabuto) while still holding back

His superiority is quite clear even depsite that,but kids would ignore evidence and follow trough their own personal logic,so no reason to engage in prolonged debates

Now factor in the latest Izanami and we can even more clealry understand the chasm between the Illuson master Itachi and Jiraya the gallant

 

[Prince Charles]

Fu*kind delusional kids

Itachi is stronger than J-man,period

His superiority is not only cemneted by the sole fact that the is holding his own against fighter who are above Jiraya(Nagato,Kabuto) while still holding back

His superiority is quite clear even depsite that,but kids would ignore evidence and follow trough their own personal logic,so no reason to engage in prolonged debates

Now factor in the latest Izanami and we can even more clealry understand the chasm between the Illuson master Itachi and Jiraya the gallant

lmfao calm down bro.

 

[Lt Iceman]

I am perfectly

 

[Thane]

Fu*kind delusional kids

Itachi is stronger than J-man,period

His superiority is not only cemneted by the sole fact that the is holding his own against fighter who are above Jiraya(Nagato,Kabuto) while still holding back

His superiority is quite clear even depsite that,but kids would ignore evidence and follow trough their own personal logic,so no reason to engage in prolonged debates

Now factor in the latest Izanami and we can even more clealry understand the chasm between the Illuson master Itachi and Jiraya the gallant

If someone does not share your opinion, they are delusional kids? That does not sound very mature. If you're old enough that you can conclude that a large portion of this base is much younger than you, then act like it.

 

[Prince Charles]

If someone does not share your opinion, they are delusional kids? That does not sound very mature. If you're old enough that you can conclude that a large portion of this base is much younger than you, then act like it.

this. + rep

 

[flawlessvictory]

do something about it.

stop bein a laz turd

 

[Prince Charles]

stop bein a laz turd

whoa.... that was funny

SARCASM​

 

[Cerox0]

Im still waiting for the manga chapter Cerox0 or do you think you were fooling anybody when you said this. Perhaps we are reading different manga's :sy:

Calm yourself young uchiha. I just got back, not all can be on NB 24/7. It's an old chapter and I remembered it wrong. I underrated Tsukuyomi and couldn't think of a counter after re-reading some mangas. The only thing Jiraiya could do is how Might Guy fights the sharingan via feet movement, or use of a clone like kakashi which is not unlikely. Everything else Jiraiya can handle.

 

[Prince Charles]

Not completely impossible for jiriaya to outlast Itachi. Jman has a lot of chakra, probably a decent amount more than itachi, though itachi still has a ton. honestly idk who would win so i'll just say a draw good thread tho +REP

thanks

 

[naruto kyuubi]

I actually read this all lol His genjutsu could be countered by Ma and Pa although im sure Jman could outun Amateseru look how he ran vs Pain Summon he should of become a athelete he wasnt even in sage mode.Jiraya has nothing that would break his susanoo so unless Jiraya can Outlast him Itachi would win.

unlimited sage mode it can outlast anything. itachi drains quickly with the ms techniques

 

[naruto kyuubi]

1) Everything itachi told kisame that day was bullshit

if you read the manga you would know itachi was WITH konoha the entire time, and was spying on akatsuki..

KONOHA was a no go zone because of him.. When itachi died tobi told zetsu "Itachi is dead, konoha is no longer off limits" Immediately after Nagato destroyed konoha..


Now tell me WHY, uchiha itachi would have wanted to kill jiraya, take naruto and give him to pain?

Was his plan to complete project tsukyomi no me?
NO

he spared kakashi in their brawl, having kakashi say " why didn't he just kill me"

his motive for that day was just to warn danzo not to touch or talk to sasuke.. simple...
even kisame was suspicious about itachi when he said "Why is retreat neccesary ... for you.."

Even he knew itachi would fk jiraya's shit up with 1 amaterasu in that CLOSED space...


itachi's words were what? " if we were to fight him it would end in us killing each other...even if we had more backup, it would end the same.."

Not only do most translators agree that itachi was not talking about jiraya,
But the SIMPLE rediculousness in what he said is more than enough to know he was completely bullshitting


Unless you think ,Nagato + itachi + kisame + kakuzu + sasori vs Jiraya
would end up in jiraya killing them all?

If you do believe that, DO NOT reply to me, what so ever[



Orochimaru in some seconds

Kakashi, kurenai in a few minutes , and ended kakashi in 1 jutsu

plz..

kakashi underestimated his genjutsu i doubt jman will. and jiraya is way stronger than kakashi. he took out three bodies of pain. all itachi can do against him is to use his ms techs of which only two would work, before you say anything i think sasuke utilizes amaterasu better, the level itachi's use of amaterasu is shown j man can seal it off as long as he is prepared beforehand

 

[Owarij]

kakashi underestimated his genjutsu i doubt jman will. and jiraya is way stronger than kakashi. he took out three bodies of pain. all itachi can do against him is to use his ms techs of which only two would work, before you say anything i think sasuke utilizes amaterasu better, the level itachi's use of amaterasu is shown j man can seal it off as long as he is prepared beforehand

doubt jman will

Your reason for doubting that jman will?

if anything i doubted that Oro and tsunade wouldn't look into sharingans, since they are the geniuses

but my doubts proved wrong..

 

[naruto kyuubi]

Your reason for doubting that jman will?

if anything i doubted that Oro and tsunade wouldn't look into sharingans, since they are the geniuses

but my doubts proved wrong..

orochimaru got carried away by his delusions of grandeur while jman is more modest. he knows of konoha warriors very well he wouldnot take someone who is a uchicha and s ranked criminal lightly. and such as he knows he is weak against genjutsu he wouldnot look into the eyes without entering sage mode which should be invincible to genjutsu as it would have his chakra fluctuacting, now if you see the fight between kakashi and itachi you would see kakashi told others not to make eyecontact, he made it only because he thought his 3t sharingan could handle it, jman wouldnot do the same and tsukyomi can be broken sasuke did break it

 

[Bogard]

Your reason for doubting that jman will?

if anything i doubted that Oro and tsunade wouldn't look into sharingans, since they are the geniuses

but my doubts proved wrong..

The reason is that jman has knowledge, and we've seen what Kakashi and Deidara did after they have been defeated the 1st time.

 

[obscoral]

j-man gets destroyed by itachi
unfortunately some j fanboys fail to c the obvious
:shrug:

 

[silmarill]

There is only 1 scenario where Jirayja can win

Thats if he summons the toad stomach as a shield to hide from itachi then summon ma pa they prepare frog song when its ready he makes the tecnique dissapear and instantly do frog song
All other scenarios Itachi would murder Jiraiya

 

[Owarij]

This pretty much sums up all the arguemnts made for jiraya.
great evidence.

Lmao yup indeed, that's how they all argue, Conjecture, assumption and plain out belief

The reason is that jman has knowledge, and we've seen what Kakashi and Deidara did after they have been defeated the 1st time.

after they've been taught their lesson yea? kakashi never looked again and deidara trained his eyes..

tell me, has itachi taught jiraya his lesson yet?

orochimaru got carried away by his delusions of grandeur while jman is more modest. he knows of konoha warriors very well he wouldnot take someone who is a uchicha and s ranked criminal lightly. and such as he knows he is weak against genjutsu he wouldnot look into the eyes without entering sage mode which should be invincible to genjutsu as it would have his chakra fluctuacting, now if you see the fight between kakashi and itachi you would see kakashi told others not to make eyecontact, he made it only because he thought his 3t sharingan could handle it, jman wouldnot do the same and tsukyomi can be broken sasuke did break it

sure he wouldn't.. danzo is older than jman, knows more info than him, knows more about sharingan and genjutsu than him.. for god sake she has shishui's eye

yet.....look at that danzo still looked at sasuke's sharingan and got caught in genjutsu's twice, one causing him to lose.

the entire kage summit but oonoki looked at sasuke's eyes, grandeur? kk gotcha

there is not ONE scan of evidence that supports what you people are saying.. Outright wishful thinking.... Jiraya taught naruto how to beat genjutsu to go against people like itachi, why didn't he teach him how to fight with no eye contact? knowing naruto is also weak against it why didn't he teach him to NOT make eye contact?

He simply taught him the same chakra release technique oro used... Kakashi was the one that told them not to make eye contact at all..

 

[obscoral]

There is only 1 scenario where Jirayja can win

Thats if he summons the toad stomach as a shield to hide from itachi then summon ma pa they prepare frog song when its ready he makes the tecnique dissapear and instantly do frog song
All other scenarios Itachi would murder Jiraiya

and while j does that, itachi watches TV or what?

 

[silmarill]

and while j does that, itachi watches TV or what?

No he could burn it with amaterasu but would take some time to burn it all away tho , the inside of that tecnique is rather big, but this scenario is likely to not happen tho

 

[obscoral]

No he could burn it with amaterasu but would take some time to burn it all away tho , the inside of that tecnique is rather big, but this scenario is likely to not happen tho

or he could do susano which would bang the toad from inside

xd