Naruto's Eyes are better than Sharingan

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All you proved was that A attacked Naruto head-on and dodged it. Sharingan is able to dodge things head-on as well. And on page 15 Naruto even said that he can SENSE danger better when in SM. Use a better example. Naruto's eyes are not better.


You give me a better example heres the point which you proved here. Sasuke barely dodged A's attack. 3rd raikage is faster than A, so he wouldn't of been able to dodge.

Also A (4th raikage) has linear attack,s and sasuke couldn't even dodge his horizontal chop he forced to use susano to block he didn't keep it off, cuz he could see's attack he used susano cuz it was the only thing he could do.

Give me a better example.

And obviously if naruto's senjutsu eye's are able to keep up with 3rd raikage, who is faster than A, his eyes are better at seeing faster things. and he did see the attack what did you miss?
 

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Are you for Naruto's eyes being better than the Sharingan or not? I feel that you are but your arguments are telling me the opposite lol

you probably aren't but yeah >.>

I'm saying his eyes see FASTER than sasuke not they are BETTER. THEY are able to keep up with FASTER movements.
 

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All you proved was that A attacked Naruto head-on and dodged it. Sharingan is able to dodge things head-on as well. And on page 15 Naruto even said that he can SENSE danger better when in SM. Use a better example. Naruto's eyes are not better.



You do see him looking at the attack he side stepped meaning he saw it and kept looking at him and hit his arm meaning he saw his arm.

then u have dodai, telling him good eyes. Yes he can sense it meaning he can dodge, but help him land a hit with precision on his arm to hit his chest. It helps him dodge and thats it.
 

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No, it wouldn't because sasuke couldn't see A his synapse and DATA RECEPTORS, can't keep up with the speed of those movements. It's because NARUTO's synapses and receptors are being affected by his chakra boost allowing him to SEE better and transmit and recieve visual DATA faster. Sasuke and the sharingan can't, because he just doesn't have the chakra control. NARUTO had to do a TON of chakra control training so it MAKES sense his vision has INCREASED, since he can use more chakra and is more efficient at pumping it than sasuke to make his VISION better not his perception, but the ability to SEE FASTER.

So what you're really saying here is (Tell me if I'm wrong) It's Narutos amount of chakra and his chakra control that decreases the amount of time it takes for his brain to process everything he's seeing and he can react to the situation faster? If so, then it's not really Narutos eyes that are superior to the Sharingan per say, it's the fact that he has a better chakra control and knows how to use it more efficently than the average Uchiha with a Sharingan. So technically speaking, the Sharingan is better, but Naruto is smart (lolwut? That's new) enough to be able to work off of chakra alone to increase his sensor abilties to that of which is better than the sensor abilties alone of a Sharingan. Boy this just got really confusing.
 

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So what you're really saying here is (Tell me if I'm wrong) It's Narutos amount of chakra and his chakra control that decreases the amount of time it takes for his brain to process everything he's seeing and he can react to the situation faster? If so, then it's not really Narutos eyes that are superior to the Sharingan per say, it's the fact that he has a better chakra control and knows how to use it more efficently than the average Uchiha with a Sharingan. So technically speaking, the Sharingan is better, but Naruto is smart (lolwut? That's new) enough to be able to work off of chakra alone to increase his sensor abilties to that of which is better than the sensor abilties alone of a Sharingan. Boy this just got really confusing.

I don't think he's arguing for the OP. The argument has switched to who has better reflexes now over all (but I could be wrong)
 

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yeah he's not really right, I thought you were going to say sage mode then that's arguable even km sensory abilities xd
 

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I love how you use real world facts to explain an anime character. Wow just wow. Your arguement was invalid from the 1st sentence.

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I don't think he's arguing for the OP. The argument has switched to who has better reflexes now over all (but I could be wrong)

Well, that's tough to say. Because you guys are bringing up the whole thing about A punching both of them. Here's the problem with that. They both did react to it, but they both had different strategies in dealing with it. Sasuke blocked it because he knew he couldn't jump out of the way in time, and Naruto dodged it because he knew he couldn't block it. Really, that example doesn't work because they did both sense him, but they had different means of dealing with the situation using their advantages and dealing with their disadvantages. Like what someone said earlier, If you see a bus coming at you, it doesn't mean you have enough time to run out of the way. Same in Sasukes case. and if someone's shooting a bullet at you, you know you can't block it, so you try to run out of the way. Same in Narutos case.
 

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So what you're really saying here is (Tell me if I'm wrong) It's Narutos amount of chakra and his chakra control that decreases the amount of time it takes for his brain to process everything he's seeing and he can react to the situation faster? If so, then it's not really Narutos eyes that are superior to the Sharingan per say, it's the fact that he has a better chakra control and knows how to use it more efficently than the average Uchiha with a Sharingan. So technically speaking, the Sharingan is better, but Naruto is smart (lolwut? That's new) enough to be able to work off of chakra alone to increase his sensor abilties to that of which is better than the sensor abilties alone of a Sharingan. Boy this just got really confusing.

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I don't think he's arguing for the OP. The argument has switched to who has better reflexes now over all (but I could be wrong)

Ok basically yes. But they his still his eyes, and he's increasing the speed of it with chakra, and increasing chakra, to a certain body part has nothing to do with his reflexe's, generating chakra enough to see that fast much be really chakra extensive, and sasuke doesn't have the chakra to do that, if he did, and had the chakra control he could, but he doesn't, and its basically the boost to his chakra, that allows his synapses to work faster allowing his brain to recieve and transmit data better for him to see better.

and he is smart im not sure if your being sarcastic but look:





Look at 5 carefully he threw it so he wouldn't get caught in the blast radius SMART
 

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Ok basically yes. But they his still his eyes, and he's increasing the speed of it with chakra, and increasing chakra, to a certain body part has nothing to do with his reflexe's, generating chakra enough to see that fast much be really chakra extensive, and sasuke doesn't have the chakra to do that, if he did, and had the chakra control he could, but he doesn't, and its basically the boost to his chakra, that allows his synapses to work faster allowing his brain to recieve and transmit data better for him to see better.

Look at 5 carefully he threw it so he wouldn't get caught in the blast radius SMART

Yeah that all makes sense, I suppose. :p and he is smart now. I was thinking back to the old Naruto when he couldn't pick up on anything :D The good 'ol days.
 

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Well, that's tough to say. Because you guys are bringing up the whole thing about A punching both of them. Here's the problem with that. They both did react to it, but they both had different strategies in dealing with it. Sasuke blocked it because he knew he couldn't jump out of the way in time, and Naruto dodged it because he knew he couldn't block it. Really, that example doesn't work because they did both sense him, but they had different means of dealing with the situation using their advantages and dealing with their disadvantages. Like what someone said earlier, If you see a bus coming at you, it doesn't mean you have enough time to run out of the way. Same in Sasukes case. and if someone's shooting a bullet at you, you know you can't block it, so you try to run out of the way. Same in Narutos case.

The 3rd raikage is faster than A. His horizontal chop he couldnt even keep track of. You see in this pictures above naruto is fast enough to keep up with the third, sasuke cant even keep up visually with A so idk how he could vs 3rd him, and sasuke did have a really hard time of sensing A. All of 3rd and A's attacks are linear so yeah, if sasuke saw it he could dodge it like he did the elbow, you saying that sasuke couldnt duck the chop if he could see him?

Linear attack:


obviously he couldn't see him or keep up he couldn't even sense him and what is this a linear attack by A. Yes he blocked it, but he cant keep up with fast speeds, and the point of this thread is that naruto's eyes are faster visually than sharingan not there reflexes.
 
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You give me a better example heres the point which you proved here. Sasuke barely dodged A's attack. 3rd raikage is faster than A, so he wouldn't of been able to dodge.

Also A (4th raikage) has linear attack,s and sasuke couldn't even dodge his horizontal chop he forced to use susano to block he didn't keep it off, cuz he could see's attack he used susano cuz it was the only thing he could do.

Give me a better example.

And obviously if naruto's senjutsu eye's are able to keep up with 3rd raikage, who is faster than A, his eyes are better at seeing faster things. and he did see the attack what did you miss?

Sorry I meant the 3rd Raikage. My main point was that Sharingan helps slow down attacks to the point where it seems like they're crawling. Sasuke with EMS would've been able to just as easily sidestep the 3rd Raikage's attack. Naruto's eyes only sensed the attack and his enhanced body sidestepped. That doesn't necessarily mean that he saw the attack. He just sensed danger and since he has a mode that gives him enhanced speed he was able to react to it much quicker. Like I said use a better example.
 

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science in naruto is plenty. from the walking on water to climbing trees. you just have to believe!

think of it so, we all have chakra veins and such in our body. problem is its all been switched off in our bodies. awaken and perhaps the unbelieveable simply becomes the miracle, which in turn becomes the "magic" which we all have..

If you don't believe me shut up and meditate until you turn your light off with just your inner power .......:p
 

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The 3rd raikage is faster than A. His horizontal chop he couldnt even keep track of. You see in this pictures above naruto is fast enough to keep up with the third, sasuke cant even keep up visually with A so idk how he could vs 3rd him, and sasuke did have a really hard time of sensing A. All of 3rd and A's attacks are linear so yeah, if sasuke saw it he could dodge it like he did the elbow, you saying that sasuke couldnt duck the chop if he could see him?

Linear attack:


obviously he couldn't see him or keep up he couldn't even sense him and what is this a linear attack by A. Yes he blocked it, but he cant keep up with fast speeds, and the point of this thread is that naruto's eyes are faster visually than sharingan not there reflexes.

Did it ever occur to you that Sasuke's hand was stuck inside the Raikage's body? That's why he was thrown. And Sasuke didn't dodge A's attack because he got overconfident in Amaterasu and Susanoo's combined defense. All Naruto's eyes do is help him sense attacks since he is one with nature which means that he feels nature and every little disturbance and movement in nature. Plus his mode enhances his speed and reflexes. Sasuke doesn't gain any enhancements. Keep that in mind.
 

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Sorry I meant the 3rd Raikage. My main point was that Sharingan helps slow down attacks to the point where it seems like they're crawling. Sasuke with EMS would've been able to just as easily sidestep the 3rd Raikage's attack. Naruto's eyes only sensed the attack and his enhanced body sidestepped. That doesn't necessarily mean that he saw the attack. He just sensed danger and since he has a mode that gives him enhanced speed he was able to react to it much quicker. Like I said use a better example.

Kabuto's attacks aren't fast and EMS sasuke can't even keep up, and you give me an example this is a good example. Look at the picture he DID see the attack theres a difference between getting out the way of the attack than seeing the ATTACK and precisely counter attacking to make him hit himself obviously he saw the 3rd.Look at the picture, and if thats the case A is faster than B and SM naruto why couldn't he see A with his MS. We have no PROOF in the MANGA that EMS will be able to see faster things, according to KISHI it should, but if you look at A's horizontal chop SASUKE COULDNT DETECT it, and he was able to barely dodge, and SEE A's elbow with 3 TOMOE. A took like 10 steps sasuke took 2. Now tell me whats more advanced 3 tomoe or MS. Please give me an EXAMPLE in the manga now.
Thanks.
 

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Did it ever occur to you that Sasuke's hand was stuck inside the Raikage's body? That's why he was thrown. And Sasuke didn't dodge A's attack because he got overconfident in Amaterasu and Susanoo's combined defense. All Naruto's eyes do is help him sense attacks since he is one with nature which means that he feels nature and every little disturbance and movement in nature. Plus his mode enhances his speed and reflexes. Sasuke doesn't gain any enhancements. Keep that in mind.

Your full of it his hand wasnt stuck inside A.



You do realize that A is just that fact his reflex's are just that fast he hit him and bam he's just that fast.

I dont think you realize how penetration works. When you pierce something it cleans what it hit and because lightning burns and dissentigrates muscle and cordorizes there was nothing holding him A is just that fast give me another excuse now.

According to what your stating as well he could of done to the third with his eyes closed. But guess what they are not so he needs to see. So he the attack.

manga>opinions.
 
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not only are naruto's eyes NO WHERE NEAR as good as a sharingan BUT naruto is NOT faster than FTG because FTG has nothing at all do do with speed cuz its a TELEPORTATION tech duh...
 
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The sharingan can see peoples chakra also. Naruto's eye can only see what people without special eyes can see.
 
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we dont have proof that EMS can see faster movements or not. i expect it too though since Sasuke is going to need every boost in abilities for the Naruto vs Sasuke that the entire series is leading up too.
 
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