Naruto's Eyes are better than Sharingan

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There's no science in Naruto and he isn't faster than FTG.
 

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There's no science in Naruto and he isn't faster than FTG.

He isnt faster than FTG but hes pretty damn Fast. Raiton Armour is science.

Ice Style is science. Air cools down water to make ice? Theres a bit of science there even if its basic.

And science in naruto by iSpeak:

For those who want to see his thread and not open this large explanation:



Making this thread to explain how Raiton Armor works, and what the benefits of using it are. Just to let you know, ill be including why genjutsu won't work on them in more detail than I did last time, since some people believe they have countered it. This may be long, but please read everything if you have the time. By the way, im not a Raikage fanboy.

By now, everyone should know that Raiton Armor stimulates synapses. But I doubt many people know what the side effects of it are.
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Viz translation - Shee: Lord Raikage's nerve transmissions and his reaction speed are on par with that of Konoha's yellow flash.....Impressive these folks are keeping up as well as they are. But Lord Raikage has manipulated raiton chakra to augment his reflexes! Not even the sharingan will be able to keep up with him.

Side note - A synapse is a small gap at the end of a nerve cell that allows information (such as pain) to pass from one nerve cell to the next via neurotransmitters.

The Raikage's Armor acts as a neurostimulator (an electrical stimulation of the nerves).

What is a neurostimulator?

Electrical stimulation of the nerves (also known as neurostimulation) are used to stop pain. It involves the application of electric current near or along the nerve pathways causing pain. Neurostimulation blocks the pain sensation in the body from reaching the brain. You can find out more by researching Neurostimlation, too long to write everything.

So, the Raiton Armor is the reason as to why the Raikage's have such a high tolerance to pain. The pain information which travels through the nerves are being interrupted by the electric current from the Raiton Armor.

Some devices such as Transcutaneous Electrical Nerve Stimulation (TENS), work this way to help stop pain.

Transcutaneous Electrical Nerve Stimulation (TENS) is used to relieve pain caused by a variety of chronic conditions, including:
• neck and lower back pain
headache/migraine
• arthritis
• post-herpetic neuralgia
• sciatica
• temporomandibular joint pain
• osteoarthritis
amputation (explains why Raikage was able to easily cut off his arm)
• fibromyalgia

Note: With no pain information being received whilst the Raiton Shield is active, Tsukuyomi (Itachi's) is useless.

Ok I understand. So what else does neurostimulation do?

Neurostimulation technology improves the life quality of those who are severely paralyzed or suffering from profound losses to various sense organs.

Side note: A sense organ is a specialized organ or structure, such as the eye, ear, tongue, nose, or skin, where sensory neurons are concentrated and that functions as a receptor.

How is genjutsu used?

Genjutsu techniques manipulate the flow of chakra in the victim's brain, thus causing a disruption in their 5 senses.
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A common way to break Genjutsu is through intense pain not caused by the genjutsu and utilising the resulting pain to bring their senses back in order.

Electrical stimulation at the time of nerve repair promotes motoneurons to reinnervate appropriate pathways leading to muscle and stimulates sensory neurons to regenerate.
For example, Neurostimulation helps to cure Tinnis.

Tinnitus - An auditory illusion where the subject hears noises that do not originate outside but within the body itself.

So with the Raiton Armor active acting as a Neurostimulator regenerating senses, genjutsu simply won't work (with the exception of Izanami ofcourse).

Whilst we are here, I want to go over this picture again.
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People say that there is no evidence that Sasuke was trying to cast a genjutsu on the Raikage because he used a hand sign. However, there is.
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Notice that both Tobi and Madara used the exact same hand sign to cast a genjutsu on the Kyuubi. Hand signs for Sharingan genjutsu's simply give greater control over the opponent.

The Raiton Armor also acts as an electrical muscle stimulator (EMS), which is a device that stimulates muscle contraction by electrical impulses to increase strength.

Example of EMS being used:
 

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Naruto´s eyes are NOT better than the Sharingan.
I dont really like the Uchihas, but ur being REALLY RIDICULOUS.
Maybe Naruto´s sensor abilities are currently better than a sharingan, But to say Naruto´s EYES ARE BETTER IS A TOTAL INSULT TO THE UCHIHAS!!!!

Sage mode vision > Sharingan vision. Rinnegan > Both.
 

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Science does not apply in Narutoverse.
 

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Then noone should die. Oh i took out your heart, but im still here. You do die lest your hidan or kakuzu(which you have to do 5 times).

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No, sasuke couldnt see A's movements A constantly couldnt keep track of A's movement. Your giving sharingan to much credit it couldnt even keep up with B's swords, which isn't moving nearly as fast as A. Yes its confusing, but the sense of perception isn't that great its all to do with slight of hand. Naruto eyes are better he kept up with A and saw him end of story, could Sasuke see A most of the time? no just when he moved linearly. Sasuke's eyes aren't as great.

Naruto's chakra allows him to see better, because to move and react at that capability his synapses and data processing to his brain just needs to be that much faster. Other wise he'd just bump into trees. Yes His sensing ability helps him dodge, and tell people apart, but not to see. Seeing comes with through eyes. His chakra network is just helping him see better is all allow him to see and process data on a much higher level on sharingan, its not allowing him to predict moves, just see at a much higher speed. His sensing ability helps him see moves ie SM/KM.

So yes his eyes are better.


When Sasuke fought A he was already going a little blind. Sharingan is better than Normal eyes. Narutos don't see but he Sense. Sharingan > Narutos eyes. Just that
 

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Ok look I know you think your a bad ass at this but.
Naruto defies science as proven by walking on water, fire jutsu, etc.
What your comparing the sharingan is to the physical feats of Naruto...thats not the same as his eyes lmao
 

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He didn't say BETTER as in terms of power he's say better in terms of vision. Did you guys eveb understand what he wrote?

this---^.. uchiha fans skipped like HALF of the text once again and started to make excuses...:flaw:
 

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When Sasuke fought A he was already going a little blind. Sharingan is better than Normal eyes. Narutos don't see but he Sense. Sharingan > Narutos eyes. Just that

He didn't start going blind he started at danzo, and fully at kakashi. How did he go blind if that was the 2nd fight he used his MS tech's. He used ama once against bee, and tsuyki once against bee. And most of his MS techs were used against A.

He does see, if he saw A, dodging comes from his sense you dont have to see something to dodge. IE blind spot attacks that get dodged you didn't see it but you sensed it.

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So a sharingan not able to keep up with A's movement visually, makes them superior to naruto's eyes keep up with A? I want you to think on that.
 

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Even if everything you're saying is true Naruto's eyes still wouldn't be better then the Sharingan because the Sharingan can see through Gen-jutsu and can see the flow of chakra and tell if someone is under Gen-jutsu. It also has the ability to copy its opponent's jutsu. But I do like your argument and proof
 

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Sharingan examines all things in the sight in extream detail as for naruto eyes only can see what is there and react. Also sharingan can also react at fast pasces and with that not waste any movement . thus the slow and precise movement saskue had when he first got the 3rd tomoe .

AlsoSasukue could probably still see naruto due to naruto's immense chakra and the fact that the sharingan can see chakra in a form of color.
 

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He went into SM mode, because he can perceive the threat of danger better, than in KM mode. Not that his eye's werent fast enough its like kakashi vs hidan, he couldnt afford to get touched.

IT doest not change the fact that Naruto had to enter Sennin Mode to counter attack the 3rd fast attack, Naruto couldn't see the attack but instead he sense it.!, something that he woulndt be able to do in KM, i dont think naruto eyes can at light speed just because he can move at that speed. is plot hole we know that. how he saw A attack and dodge it is another hole.

Normal Eyes=normal
Sharingan eyes=Normal Eyes 10X-20X
 
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naruto sage mode vs sasuke MS, in the darkness, no light at all

sasukes eye would be meaningless
 

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IT doest not change the fact that Naruto had to enter Sennin Mode to counter attack the 3rd fast attack, Naruto couldn't see the attack but instead he sense it.!, something that he woulndt be able to do in KM, i dont think naruto eyes can at light speed just because he can move at that speed. is plot hole we know that. how he saw A attack and dodge it is another hole.

Normal Eyes=normal
Sharingan eyes=Normal Eyes 10X-20X

Your full of IT

Heres the manga for you he clearly saw this attack, and naruto dodged it and 3rd raikage is faster than A so his eyes are better now stop making excuses it cant see everything but when it comes to seeing fast thing's his eyes are better.







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Also naruto couldnt go into KM mode, because he exhausted it at the moment, and he hit himself with a KB TBB, so he was unable to access KM and only had SM.
 
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He just has better reaction time, which by the way can also be attributed to his skills as a sensor. Naruto's eyes aren't necessarily better than the Sharingan, he's just clutch. Let's put it this way, if you gave Naruto the Sharingan would that make his eyes worse?

You guys sort of skipped over this question or I may have just missed the response to it, but either way I'll tell my input. If Naruto was given the Sharingan, his eyes wouldn't get worse, his eyes would get better. Now, it's because we've been comparing Narutos eyes in light speed to the Sharingan in an average speed, which is something we're not thinking about too much. If Sasuke were to go the same speed as Naruto, he would be superior in the sense that he can see better and etc.

What we're doing: Comparing Narutos eyes when sped up and a normal
speed Sharingan.

What we should do: Compare both under the same conditions.

Obviously, when we have the same conditions, Sharingan > Normal Eye, that makes perfect sense. Since we're putting the Normal Eyes under different conditions, the results are going to be different than what you'd expect. Kind of basic science.

Side note: Please actually read the thread before responding. :p And sorry if I repeated one point a bit too much.
 

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Your full of IT

Heres the manga for you he clearly saw this attack, and naruto dodged it and 3rd raikage is faster than A so his eyes are better now stop making excuses it cant see everything but when it comes to seeing fast thing's his eyes are better.






All you proved was that A attacked Naruto head-on and dodged it. Sharingan is able to dodge things head-on as well. And on page 15 Naruto even said that he can SENSE danger better when in SM. Use a better example. Naruto's eyes are not better.
 

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You guys sort of skipped over this question or I may have just missed the response to it, but either way I'll tell my input. If Naruto was given the Sharingan, his eyes wouldn't get worse, his eyes would get better. Now, it's because we've been comparing Narutos eyes in light speed to the Sharingan in an average speed, which is something we're not thinking about too much. If Sasuke were to go the same speed as Naruto, he would be superior in the sense that he can see better and etc.

What we're doing: Comparing Narutos eyes when sped up and a normal
speed Sharingan.

What we should do: Compare both under the same conditions.

Obviously, when we have the same conditions, Sharingan > Normal Eye, that makes perfect sense. Since we're putting the Normal Eyes under different conditions, the results are going to be different than what you'd expect. Kind of basic science.

Side note: Please actually read the thread before responding. :p And sorry if I repeated one point a bit too much.

No, it wouldn't because sasuke couldn't see A his synapse and DATA RECEPTORS, can't keep up with the speed of those movements. It's because NARUTO's synapses and receptors are being affected by his chakra boost allowing him to SEE better and transmit and recieve visual DATA faster. Sasuke and the sharingan can't, because he just doesn't have the chakra control. NARUTO had to do a TON of chakra control training so it MAKES sense his vision has INCREASED, since he can use more chakra and is more efficient at pumping it than sasuke to make his VISION better not his perception, but the ability to SEE FASTER.
 

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No, it wouldn't because sasuke couldn't see A his synapse and DATA RECEPTORS, can't keep up with the speed of those movements. It's because NARUTO's synapses and receptors are being affected by his chakra boost allowing him to SEE better and transmit and recieve visual DATA faster. Sasuke and the sharingan can't, because he just doesn't have the chakra control. NARUTO had to do a TON of chakra control training so it MAKES sense his vision has INCREASED, since he can use more chakra and is more efficient at pumping it than sasuke to make his VISION better not his perception, but the ability to SEE FASTER.

Are you for Naruto's eyes being better than the Sharingan or not? I feel that you are but your arguments are telling me the opposite lol

you probably aren't but yeah >.>
 
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