*sigh* i cannot believe im doing this. But i guess it has to be done. U_U
Its fair to say minato fans make up the minority on nb and 98% of their fanbase is made up of intellectual people who can come up with good arguments, whilst the 2% are the less intelligent once (Baka sennin, fourth hoakge of the leaf, Itachi Namikaze)
Anyway im going to explain two things. The first being why minato isnt immune to genjutsu and the second being why tobi didnt/couldn't use genjutsu during their encounter. First of all, the question is who is immune to genjutsu, the answer is no one. We have seen people with doujutsu, high intelligence, kage level, sannins, jinchrucki's genjutsu specialists all get caught in genjutsu, so why is minato any different, i wonder?
Sarutobi a hokage getting put into genjutsu by the first hokage;
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The 2nd mizukage, killed muu the 2nd tsuckage, the 2nd miukage is a genjutsu user and i have no doubt in my mind that this helped him defeat muu, both died though;
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Kakashi genjutsu;
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Itachi and sasuke having a genjutsu duel;
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Oro genjutsu;
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Deidora genjutsu;
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Itachi of all people was put in a genjutsu and he countered it and put arguably konoha's best genjutsu user (kurenai) in one;
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Nagato genjutsu;
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Itachi,
Kurenai
Sasuke
Kakashi
Nagato
Deidora
Sarutobi
Oro
Mu
^^ These people have all been caught in genjutsu. Now i bet you are wondering why i havent listed other noticeable members who have been caught in genjutsu. Well thats for my next point. But to simply stress this issue out, its clearly been stated that only perfect jinchuricki's is 'supposedly' immune to genjutsu;
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Is Minato a jinchuricki. Secondly is he a perfect jinchrucki. The link alone should tell you that minato isnt immune to genjutsu. Also talking about perfect jinchurcki's, there is a pattern that has been established by kishi. He states something, then in a few chapters later it contradicts what he said. What i will tell you know if you havent realised about naruto is that there is no such thing as invincible, immune, immortal, invisible and although minato isnt a jinchrucki i want to show you that if genjutsu works on a perfect jinchricki, its working on minato.
The 4th mizukage who was also said to be a perfect jinckrucki was controlled in a genjutsu by tobi;
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Itachi's genjutsu on bee
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Now that the issue concerning minato's apparent genjutsu immunity is over. Ill explain the argument why tobi didnt use genjutsu on minato. This is basically the logic minato fans have resorted to, then again whats new U_U. Apparently because tobi didnt use genjutsu on minato, minato is immune? .
First all Tobi might be a genjutsu user but so far he hasnt shown true skill in genjutsu like other noticeable characters in battle to say the least. The only time he used genjutsu in battle was against Konan and this time he was forced to otherwise he wouldve died at the cost of an eye. He Used izanagi which casts genjutsu on the USER. He hasn't used genjutsu on another person in battle the way others have done;
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He is good at it to control Yagura and the fox, but he it clearly isnt his fighting style or he isnt skilled at it to use it in actual combat.
To those who say why didnt he use it against minato, therefore minato is immune. Ask yourself this, why did he use this against Fu and Torune, and team kakashi or are all of them immune to genjutsu aswell. Basically saying minato is immune because tobi didnt use it is basically saying team kakashi, fu and torune, bee and gai are also immune, but there is one slight problem.
If they are all immune to genjutsu, since tobi didnt use, then explain this;
Sakura genjutsu;
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Sai genjutsu;
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Kakashi genjutsu;
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Naruto, lmao, do i even need to upload a pic of naruto in genjutsu U_U;
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Basically you are saying, because tobi didnt use genjutsu on minato, fu, torune, kiba, kakashi, sakura, yamato, sai, naruto, bee, gai shino they are all immune?. Come on what retarded logic is this?. Id doesnt even deserve to be labelled logic, its just retarded.
Also you could argue that the control of the 9 tails limited his use with the genjutsu. If you go back to his recent fight's its clear that the control of a tailed beasts requires alot of effort and him casting controlling the 9 tails with genjutsu obviously must have limits him the same way it does here;
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Finally every fight has an element of plot no jutsu to it. Tobi couldve killed naruto when he had him in his arms, yet he threw him in the air. If he killed naruto, then there wouldnt be a show. Similarly if he controlled minato instead of the fox, then nobody couldve stopped him. Similarly he couldve easily stalled minato the same way he did to team kakashi and not attack meaning he doesnt need to solidify therefore he stays intangible
Ofcourse nobody is not immune to genjutsu. Even perfect jin. Arent immune, they got good way to get out of it fast.
But if we talk about dumb people, blaze release stated less than hour ago in minato vs nagato and itachi thread that kakashi is minatos sensei! Way to go
Meh nothing serious, id just brush it off. Funny how when you correct minato fans they get into a rage and call you a hater. I correct every type of fan, yet minato fans cannot take it. Maybe if they do not say such illogical things, there wouldnt be anything to correct, but off course you can believe i hate an anime character
Ofcourse nobody is not immune to genjutsu. Even perfect jin. Arent immune, they got good way to get out of it fast.
But if we talk about dumb people, blaze release stated less than hour ago in minato vs nagato and itachi thread that kakashi is minatos sensei! Way to go
1)Only person immune to genjutsu in this manga is Sasori
2) their are people who genjutsu would just be worthless casting it on them- aka perfect jinchuriki's
3) You can be as super great in genjutsu, but once you get caught you have to break it to do anyhing... Orochimaru was attempting to break itachi's genjtusu with handseals and got his hand cut off
4) Minato isn't immune anytype of genjutsu.. whether it be finger genjutsu, handseals- tree binding illusion/bringer of darkness , or ocular genjutsu
Another troll thread from Minato hater #1 Blaze Release. Why people would hate a character that does'nt even exist so much i can never figure out. But then again i guess someone with almost 9 k posts in less than a year obviously does'nt have a life lol.
There's only 1 thing that's even worth addressing in this thread, namely that for anyone who might have made the mistake of taking the OP seriously: NOWHERE in the manga is it stated that ONLY perfect jinchuurikis can break out of genjutsu. Its just said that perfect jinchuurikis can, its unknown who else can or cannot do the same.
Minato fan already had a good respond to the OP (see post #46) but he decided to ignore it because obviously he's a little chicken shit or he can't just counter it.
This thread was created as a black propaganda to raise more Minato haters for the sole reason that he is an Itachi Fan-boy. Obviously, no one is immune to genjutsu. Why create such a thread? Fans are trying to argue whether he can be caught by it or if he can be trapped by it. Or else should somehow he was caught by any genjutsu, can he break free from it, or does he have a counter attack for it.
Another troll thread from Minato hater #1 Blaze Release. Why people would hate a character that does'nt even exist so much i can never figure out. But then again i guess someone with almost 9 k posts in less than a year obviously does'nt have a life lol.
There's only 1 thing that's even worth addressing in this thread, namely that for anyone who might have made the mistake of taking the OP seriously: NOWHERE in the manga is it stated that ONLY perfect jinchuurikis can break out of genjutsu. Its just said that perfect jinchuurikis can, its unknown who else can or cannot do the same.
Haha, ive noticed that you like getting off topic in discussions when you cannot take it. Seen you go after owarij, ctIceman and just yesterday Itachi Namikaze. I remember youve even -repped me 3 times when i went against minato. But you see unlike them, im not interested in these type of internet fracas, id rather prefer to talk about naruto.
As for the doesnt have a life part, you see if thats what you believe then its all good. All i can see is another fuming fan, obviously nothing to flinch at if anything point and laugh at.
Also seems to lack any sort of imagination with your rather flimsy 'insult' about my post account. Could've at least tried harder with the insults. Might give you a second try, do your best
Minato fan already had a good respond to the OP (see post #46) but he decided to ignore it because obviously he's a little chicken shit or he can't just counter it.
This thread was created as a black propaganda to raise more Minato haters for the sole reason that he is an Itachi Fan-boy. Obviously, no one is immune to genjutsu. Why create such a thread? Fans are trying to argue whether he can be caught by it or if he can be trapped by it. Or else should somehow he was caught by any genjutsu, can he break free from it, or does he have a counter attack for it.
This guy has to be an alt, ive noticed you but ignored you. That guy at post 46, if i was to bring you some of things he has said, you'd realise why i dont even bother with him
I believe Kakuzu is also immune to genjutsu. Genjutsu takes control of chakra system. But Kakuzu has 5 of them.
For the rest, maybe you're right(or wrong, cuz we don't know all the ninjas in Naruto univers) but like i always say, genjutsu is not the only art ninja in the manga. You can defeat a genjutsu user even when you're not immune to genjutsus.
Haha, ive noticed that you like getting off topic in discussions when you cannot take it. Seen you go after owarij, ctIceman and just yesterday Itachi Namikaze. I remember youve even -repped me 3 times when i went against minato. But you see unlike them, im not interested in these type of internet fracas, id rather prefer to talk about naruto.
As for the doesnt have a life part, you see if thats what you believe then its all good. All i can see is another fuming fan, obviously nothing to flinch at if anything point and laugh at.
Also seems to lack any sort of imagination with your rather flimsy 'insult' about my post account. Could've at least tried harder with the insults. Might give you a second try, do your best
Dude that guy gets butt hurt so much that the discussion goes from naruto related to actual insults. Ive seen him do this to other members and just yesterday to itachi namikaze. Also -rep if he cannot take what you say. He is a funny guy, not to be taken serious
Dude that guy gets butt hurt so much that the discussion goes from naruto related to actual insults. Ive seen him do this to other members and just yesterday to itachi namikaze. Also -rep if he cannot take what you say. He is a funny guy, not to be taken serious
Majority i dont even reply to them. That Narutokage or what his name is, there was a minato vs deva path thread. The thread went from minato vs deva path to Narutokage vs CTiceman (think thats his name). If you see the insults traded you'd laugh. Actually provided me with my daily dose of lol's on top of that he got owned aswell and the thread got closed.
As i said, no need to flinch at such idiots, just point and laugh at them instead
Haha, ive noticed that you like getting off topic in discussions when you cannot take it. Seen you go after owarij, ctIceman and just yesterday Itachi Namikaze. I remember youve even -repped me 3 times when i went against minato. But you see unlike them, im not interested in these type of internet fracas, id rather prefer to talk about naruto.
As for the doesnt have a life part, you see if thats what you believe then its all good. All i can see is another fuming fan, obviously nothing to flinch at if anything point and laugh at.
Also seems to lack any sort of imagination with your rather flimsy 'insult' about my post account. Could've at least tried harder with the insults. Might give you a second try, do your best
This guy has to be an alt, ive noticed you but ignored you. That guy at post 46, if i was to bring you some of things he has said, you'd realise why i dont even bother with him
Ow like I'm kinda scared. Then just bring somethings he have said, because like him I'm also waiting for your counter argument. Lets see what you really got!
yeah that bogard dude also stated, totsuka sword can't seal the 8 tails ,
and yet the kohaku no johei which apparently a legendary tool just like totsuka can seal it LOL
Ow like I'm kinda scared. Then just bring somethings he have said, because like him I'm also waiting for your counter argument. Lets see what you really got!
Scared?, no need to be :flaw:. There are people on here who i take seriously and actually take my time with them, you or that guy arent one of them. Btw read this thread, read all his posts then you'd see why i dont take my time with him also;
yeah that bogard dude also stated, totsuka sword can't seal the 8 tails ,
and yet the kohaku no johei which apparently a legendary tool just like totsuka can seal it LOL
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