Hiruzen Sarutobi: "The GOD of shinobi" arguments

who is stronger

  • Hiruzen (3rd Hokage)

    Votes: 239 33.8%
  • Hashirama (1st Hokage)

    Votes: 469 66.2%

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Many people have said that Hashirama is stronger than Hiruzen, and i have a hard time believing that based on the evidence i get from manga and anime. So i wanna take a vote to see who Majority thinks was the strongest.

Hiruzen - Hiruzen was one of the most powerful shinobi in history. In fact, he was so powerful that he was admired as the God of Shinobi in his prime. Even in his old age, he was said to be the strongest Hokage that Konoha ever had as well as the strongest of all the five Kage at the time of his death. Hiruzen was called The Professor, due to his mastery of all forms of shinobi combat, and his vast knowledge of techniques, purportedly knowing all the techniques within Konoha. Even in his old age, his chakra was noted for being very strong, causing a dense effect on the atmosphere when released; furthermore, he was known for having immense reserves of chakra in his youth. He was also the longest living and longest reigning Hokage. Hiruzen also had keen senses, being able to track down the former Hokage under Hashirama Senju's Bringer-of-Darkness Technique.

Hashirama - Hashirama Senju is reputed as the most powerful shinobi of his era, having been called the strongest shinobi as stated by Madara Uchiha. His strength was so greatly respected by the shinobi world that Tobi claimed Hashirama was the one person whom he most admired and detested. Kabuto claimed that Hashirama's might was so vast, there aren't any shinobi in the current era that could match his level of power. As the leader of the Senju clan, Hashirama held tremendous proficiency in many shinobi skills and possessed a considerable understanding of those he did not. He held advanced ability in taijutsu with prodigious speed and strength. In addition, he was well-versed in genjutsu and could perform powerful illusions such as the Bringer-of-Darkness Technique. In the anime he showed proficiency with both kenjutsu and fūinjutsu, carrying a scroll which he used to store a number of large swords for the former and in the latter, his use of the Contract Seal to break Madara's control over Kurama.

PLEASE READ THIS INTERVIEW W/ KISHI
In the interview you will see that even he says that Minato and Hiruzen are the two strongest DEAD shinobi, and seeing how hasirama is dead too that is also kishi saying that hiruzen is stronger than hashirama.. thank you:izuna:


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Re: Hiruzen Sarutobi: The GOD shinobi Vote!!!!

Hiruzen was supposedly the strongest hokage
 
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Re: Hiruzen Sarutobi: The GOD shinobi Vote!!!!

Idk anymore people hype hiruzen up alot idk what to believe so i guess hiruen maybe?:shrug:
 

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Re: Hiruzen Sarutobi: The GOD shinobi Vote!!!!

Manga states he is the god shinobi so he's the god shinobi no ifs ands or butts
 

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Re: Hiruzen Sarutobi: The GOD shinobi Vote!!!!

Many people have said that Hashirama is stronger than Hiruzen, and i have a hard time believing that based on the evidence i get from manga and anime. So i wanna take a vote to see who Majority thinks was the strongest.

Hiruzen - Hiruzen was one of the most powerful shinobi in history. In fact, he was so powerful that he was admired as the God of Shinobi in his prime. Even in his old age, he was said to be the strongest Hokage that Konoha ever had as well as the strongest of all the five Kage at the time of his death. Hiruzen was called The Professor, due to his mastery of all forms of shinobi combat, and his vast knowledge of techniques, purportedly knowing all the techniques within Konoha. Even in his old age, his chakra was noted for being very strong, causing a dense effect on the atmosphere when released; furthermore, he was known for having immense reserves of chakra in his youth. He was also the longest living and longest reigning Hokage. Hiruzen also had keen senses, being able to track down the former Hokage under Hashirama Senju's Bringer-of-Darkness Technique.

Hashirama - Hashirama Senju is reputed as the most powerful shinobi of his era, having been called the strongest shinobi as stated by Madara Uchiha. His strength was so greatly respected by the shinobi world that Tobi claimed Hashirama was the one person whom he most admired and detested. Kabuto claimed that Hashirama's might was so vast, there aren't any shinobi in the current era that could match his level of power. As the leader of the Senju clan, Hashirama held tremendous proficiency in many shinobi skills and possessed a considerable understanding of those he did not. He held advanced ability in taijutsu with prodigious speed and strength. In addition, he was well-versed in genjutsu and could perform powerful illusions such as the Bringer-of-Darkness Technique. In the anime he showed proficiency with both kenjutsu and fūinjutsu, carrying a scroll which he used to store a number of large swords for the former and in the latter, his use of the Contract Seal to break Madara's control over Kurama.

Please Vote!!!!

What you said only makes Hashirama looks stronger.
Sarutobi when saw Kurama told everyone to wait for Minato... If he was such a strong old man as you say then he would be useful helping Minato handling Kurama and maybe, just maybe Naruto would have his parents alive...
 

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Re: Hiruzen Sarutobi: The GOD shinobi Vote!!!!

You're going to get flammed for even bringing it up U_U

I know you had the post earlier but i really want so see a overall poll of who EVERYONE thinks is stronger..
 

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Re: Hiruzen Sarutobi: The GOD shinobi Vote!!!!

I dont know but if we want to judge from the current manga fact i guess i will go for hashirama..
 

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Re: Hiruzen Sarutobi: The GOD shinobi Vote!!!!

I know there are manga facts that say Hiruzen was the strongest kage and all but my biggest problem with that is we have seen NOTHING from him to suggest he was so powerful jutsu wise I get that he is old and all but even so if he was as powerful as he was hyped up to be he could have curb stomped Orochimaru no difficulty...now that I go n look him up he wasent even that old only 69

I say the first is stronger yes yes we havent seen much of him either but for the simple fact we know he defeated Madara + Kyuubi and how OP his wood release seems to be speak for itself
 

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Re: Hiruzen Sarutobi: The GOD shinobi Vote!!!!

after i spent my time on this thread, nb just nb's


 

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Re: Hiruzen Sarutobi: The GOD shinobi Vote!!!!

I know you had the post earlier but i really want so see a overall poll of who EVERYONE thinks is stronger..

He indeed was strong he was chosen to be the 3rd when he was only a child.
And fought both 1st and 2nd hokages and didn't lose at all. But...
 

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Re: Hiruzen Sarutobi: The GOD shinobi Vote!!!!

dan basically voids hiruzens hype.
 

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Naw the title of "GOD" totally belongs to The Sage Of The Six Paths, we've never actually ever seen him, he supposedly "created ninjutsu" and has a following behind him in the 1,000,000s but nonw of them have ever really meet him....yep he's GOD. Hashirama is like Jesus and Hiruzen is like Moses lol

I know there are manga facts that say Hiruzen was the strongest kage and all but my biggest problem with that is we have seen NOTHING from him to suggest he was so powerful jutsu wise I get that he is old and all but even so if he was as powerful as he was hyped up to be he could have curb stomped Orochimaru no difficulty...now that I go n look him up he wasent even that old only 69

HOW IS 69 NOT OLD?!
 
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Re: Hiruzen Sarutobi: The GOD shinobi Vote!!!!

What you said only makes Hashirama looks stronger.
Sarutobi when saw Kurama told everyone to wait for Minato... If he was such a strong old man as you say then he would be useful helping Minato handling Kurama and maybe, just maybe Naruto would have his parents alive...

Naruto's mom placed a barrier over the area so he couldnt get in, but when he did have a chance he did push the nine-tails out of the village with his staff.

I know there are manga facts that say Hiruzen was the strongest kage and all but my biggest problem with that is we have seen NOTHING from him to suggest he was so powerful jutsu wise I get that he is old and all but even so if he was as powerful as he was hyped up to be he could have curb stomped Orochimaru no difficulty...now that I go n look him up he wasent even that old only 69

I say the first is stronger yes yes we havent seen much of him either but for the simple fact we know he defeated Madara + Kyuubi and how OP his wood release seems to be speak for itself

He was fighting hashirama, tobimara, and orochimaru. and hashirama i think was the second strongest (and he was still in his prime) hiruzen was old fighting young 3 young people in there prime and HE STILL WON.. that shows that he was extremely powerful when he was young.. If he was in him prime he probally curb stomp hashirama seeing how he still beat him as a old guy.
 

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Re: Hiruzen Sarutobi: The GOD shinobi Vote!!!!

dan basically voids hiruzens hype.

Explain yourself and then i'll explain why you're incorrect in saying that.
 

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Re: Hiruzen Sarutobi: The GOD shinobi Vote!!!!

Naruto's mom placed a barrier over the area so he couldnt get in, but when he did have a chance he did push the nine-tails out of the village with his staff.



He was fighting hashirama, tobimara, and orochimaru. and hashirama i think was the second strongest (and he was still in his prime) hiruzen was old fighting young 3 young people in there prime and HE STILL WON.. that shows that he was extremely powerful when he was young.. If he was in him prime he probally curb stomp hashirama seeing how he still beat him as a old guy.

look at hashirama here and say his full power was shown against hiruzen
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Re: Hiruzen Sarutobi: The GOD shinobi Vote!!!!

Oh yea I'm atheist just an FYI
 

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Re: Hiruzen Sarutobi: The GOD shinobi Vote!!!!

Explain yourself and then i'll explain why you're incorrect in saying that.

here. dan was around when hiruzen was in his prime. dan says hashirama is the only one who can beat madara but why didnt he say hiruzen can beat him, hashiramas supposed superior.
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Re: Hiruzen Sarutobi: The GOD shinobi Vote!!!!

here. dan was around when hiruzen was in his prime. dan says hashirama is the only one who can beat madara but why didnt he say hiruzen can beat him, hashiramas supposed superior.
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Chief that doesn't prove anything, he said that because he knew that Hashirama defeated Madara before thats all
 
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