CJ/CFS/CE Questions Thread

[Blizzàrd1]

Idea: To cut down posts in CJ/CFS/CE threads by providing more understandings to the problem the custom(s) have.

Explanation: The Idea is simple, as most of the staff that checks the customs get bugged again and again on their profiles for questions regarding the customs, and some of them have set rules to not ask them about the submissions, There should be a Customs Question thread. Sometimes there is not enough description in the - Declined - Note, or sometimes the submitter of the custom knows a better way to come about the problem in the Custom than stated by the mod and he wants to ask about it, but there is no solid way to do so. The thread will also help the creators to get feedback from RPiers or Senseis, if the mods are not available. A simple pattern by quoting your technique from the CJ thread and posting it in the Question thread with a question related to it, or what restrictions should I put to get accepted. This will highly decrease the traffic of VMs on the mods profile and make their work less, how? New RPiers always tend to make something OP and the exp ones knows that this will not get accepted and it doesn't, it gets declined comes to the question thread, gets feedback from exp RPiers and now its close to acceptance, better than those 4-5 useless changes in the submissions that was going to be made and in the end getting declined, which becomes waste of time and spot for other checking.
Thanks,
- Blizz

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I doubt this would succeed in the way you put it...Basically a new CJ thread. Post problem (CJ). Replies/edits with explanation (Mod Checking)

It would be just another thread for the mods to check.

No really that is why i introduced the factor of "feedback" when i see a post in Cj thread, sometimes my reaction is "oh gosh, this is a decline" but what i could do is tell the person why is this a decline and save a spot for others or help him get approved in least amount of posts. Every good Rpier has this sense which could be put to work. and if VERY needed a mod can answer them, but this will not be one of their obligation.

Do you mean a thread like this one?

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That is for battles, it clearly is in use but yes with the same idea. People will contribute if it happens ^^ Thats a perfect example of what i am talking about. Even mods post there when they get time.

 

[Sterling Malory Archer]

I doubt this would succeed in the way you put it...Basically a new CJ thread. Post problem (CJ). Replies/edits with explanation (Mod Checking)

It would be just another thread for the mods to check.

 

[Blizzàrd1]

No really that is why i introduced the factor of "feedback" when i see a post in Cj thread, sometimes my reaction is "oh gosh, this is a decline" but what i could do is tell the person why is this a decline and save a spot for others or help him get approved in least amount of posts. Every good Rpier has this sense which could be put to work. and if VERY needed a mod can answer them, but this will not be one of their obligation.

 

[Luther]

This is a good idea.however the role play moderators as stated in the custom jutsu thread and custom fighting submission threads have the right to decline your technique without giving an reason this is needed mainly in the custom submission which can either be jutsu,elements or fighting style that are over powered.

 

[Blizzàrd1]

This is a good idea.however the role play moderators as stated in the custom jutsu thread and custom fighting submission threads have the right to decline your technique without giving an reason this is needed mainly in the custom submission which can either be jutsu,elements or fighting style that are over powered.

You are totally out of point Please reread my main post.

 

[Mathias]

This would simply increase our work load. As for the newer RP'ers, do you really except them to ask questions in the thread when they fail to read the rest of the rules in the first place?

No really that is why i introduced the factor of "feedback" when i see a post in Cj thread, sometimes my reaction is "oh gosh, this is a decline" but what i could do is tell the person why is this a decline and save a spot for others or help him get approved in least amount of posts. Every good Rpier has this sense which could be put to work. and if VERY needed a mod can answer them, but this will not be one of their obligation.

You could always VM them about it if you ever come across it.

 

[Sterling Malory Archer]

This would simply increase our work load. As for the newer RP'ers, do you really except them to ask questions in the thread when they fail to read the rest of the rules in the first place?



You could always VM them about it if you ever come across it.

Exactly what I was saying

 

[Blizzàrd1]

This would simply increase our work load. As for the newer RP'ers, do you really except them to ask questions in the thread when they fail to read the rest of the rules in the first place?



You could always VM them about it if you ever come across it.

That is true, but this will provide an official place for them to be noticed, and not only that, it will be feedback from multiple people. The main point is, it will not be more about mods, it will be about other people who can help make a extremely declined custom to fairly approve-able. Sometimes we need a way of communication to make it happen.

 

[Sterling Malory Archer]

Do you mean a thread like this one?

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[Luther]

In my opinion this will do more harm than good. .So I am forced to disagree with it but rep+ for the suggestion.

 

[Sterling Malory Archer]

This is a good idea.however the role play moderators as stated in the custom jutsu thread and custom fighting submission threads have the right to decline your technique without giving an reason this is needed mainly in the custom submission which can either be jutsu,elements or fighting style that are over powered.

In my opinion this will do more harm than good. .So I am forced to disagree with it but rep+ for the suggestion.

Aren't you just contradicting yourself?

 

[Blizzàrd1]

Do you mean a thread like this one?

You must be registered for see links

That is for battles, it clearly is in use but yes with the same idea. People will contribute if it happens ^^ Thats a perfect example of what i am talking about. Even mods post there when they get time.

 

[Luther]

Aren't you just contradicting yourself?

It is a good idea in the way that it will help new rp and help to make their custom to have a higher chance of getting approved,but doing more harm than good is that it might be too much work for the moderators and the sensei and even for knowledgable role player as real life might be hectic.in any other comment or post I made contradicting myself i retract it.

 

[Scorps]

No.

I can't believe someone is complaining about our declines not having justification or depth when we go to extra lengths to give them, even if we are not required to do so.

I don't spend 2 hours checking a page of CJ or 5 (YES 5 HOURS!!!!!!!) checking 34 CFS submissions just because i want to. I spend that much time because i try to provide an explanation to each decline. In some cases, the CJ or CFS is so ridiculous that an explanation isn't needed.

If i didn't write anything, i wouldn't spend even half that time.

What you want is a place to complain and whine in a more "official" manner about the declines. Which won't happen.

Your role as submitters is to read the rules of the submission thread, keep updated with what was submitted by others members and provide an approvable decent submission. When that doesn't happen and your submission is declined, your role is simply to accept it. Period.

If and when we make a mistake, you are free to pm or vm us, proving us wrong. But when i say make a mistake i'm not speaking about declining something because its op making you come to our profile to whine and try to prove it isn't. Also, questioning our judgement only makes your job more difficult and slower.

But if you want to have reasons to complain, me, alucard, roku and emperor can start simply putting "Declined" without additional information. Perhaps that way you'll have the right to complain... Because right now, you don't.

 

[Blizzàrd1]

And thats not what I meant either Scorps, I appreciate urs and all other mods works. It just that sometimes the description needs a bit explanation for stuff to work out or it ends up getting declined again, but to figure that explanation you need to ask someone, because u already did what you thought was best. This was NEVER about crying about a custom getting declined, its a way to make it approve earlier than it should get approve to save stuff and help develop understanding for future jutsus. Its more of a help guide then a crying thread.
I would also like to add that I am not the guy who will cry over them if my point was wrong, I was even willing to give up my cloaks that you accepted and Roku declined the rest ^^

 

[Scorps]

The problem is that something like that would be used solely for whining and complaining.

Its not our job to teach the members to make customs. For that, 95% of it is understanding the RP as whole and the fields/skills which you are using to make the custom in. The other 5% is ingenuity and intelligence.

When someone makes a CFS that makes any bio invisible, moving with swift release and with a +10 damage boost to swift, what do you expect us to explain to that member? He or she can't clearly understand what a CFS is nor what can be deemed approvable in our RP. However, its not our job to teach the members to make that judgement. Its our job to leave hints on how you can make it approved. But i'm not going to check customs and give a lecture on the Water Element and it being weak to Earth. And that said, i already posted many thing in the CJs thread that were teachings, basic teachings at that, when i wasn't required to do so. One example is the lack of ability and comprehension members have with Genjutsu for example. Or when some member (don't remember the name) posted summons for which he made the hand seals to let it able to use certain techniques. I explained something that should be part of basic understanding, basically giving a lecture about it when i wasn't supposed to do so.

And when i say I did, i mean we all do. Izuna, Roku, Emperor, etc. So sorry, but i don't see the need for this in any way. It doesn't help us, it makes our job unbearable.

PS- I used examples as a mere random way to express a point. No need to get offended in any way.

 

[Blizzàrd1]

The only thing I saw in your post that I need to reply to regarding this thread is;
"The problem is that something like that would be used solely for whining and complaining." And yes I do believe that its not a mods job to help the people read ._. It cant be help they just dont follow the rules anywhere. Now addressing to the true problem, is that thread will be used for whining and not for the actual purpose, Its very simple... The fact that the thread's answers will be a contribution from RPiers, from now on I will be addressing mods as RPiers. Why? Because the thread's purpose is to help them improve, how? by the RPiers, and mods will have no such obligation to reply to the whines or complains, In that thread they will be basic RPiers giving opinions whenever they like + all other people who wants to contribute, including Senseis... The purpose is to benefit themselves through a platform, but everything in this very world is misused and people will do it, we are quite sure, but where in the world they dont talk about or complain. People who actually want to benefit are the ones who will get feedback and they will surely improve.
Lets take the example of that battle ranks Q&A, its very good to see that people are helping each other, Even Izuna comes when he finds time replies to the queries, Lilli did a great job keeping it up, so why dont we just try? There is only one solution to whining part "Ignore", no offense but it is true, and whoever wants to learn will receive a reply. A test for a week will do the thing and we can see how it helps. If it doesnt there's always a way to trash it?
Now I want to give an example how I came up with this idea.. My CW was checked by Alucard, he provided fair and perfect detail of why it was declined but the post somewhat wanted me to make the swords have the ability and so I added, then it was declined by Emp stating that I had multiple conduction this time and the swords are four different weapons, very well this is also a very fair reason to decline.. They wanted me to make one weapon out of the four swords, but I myself was not able to convey what i intended with those swords, I wanted them to be joining weapons from the handles using them as two in each hands, Mathy provided me with an idea of how to make that happen but again I was not sure if they will get my point.. So he explained and now its clear to me, and i will submit when i get time. In a similar way somethings can cause confusion and a better way to say is "communication gap" but using someone else' help you can ask them how will they do this and get a better view to frame it. Now this was only me, but you as a mod and all others know extremely well that you get so many pointless Qs or resubmissions to avoid this we as a joint community can contribute.
I dont have further explanation, If you still think it will not work please disregard the idea.
Thanks for taking you time to reply ^^

 

[Scorps]

The only thing I saw in your post that I need to reply to regarding this thread is;
"The problem is that something like that would be used solely for whining and complaining." And yes I do believe that its not a mods job to help the people read ._. It cant be help they just dont follow the rules anywhere. Now addressing to the true problem, is that thread will be used for whining and not for the actual purpose, Its very simple... The fact that the thread's answers will be a contribution from RPiers, from now on I will be addressing mods as RPiers. Why? Because the thread's purpose is to help them improve, how? by the RPiers, and mods will have no such obligation to reply to the whines or complains, In that thread they will be basic RPiers giving opinions whenever they like + all other people who wants to contribute, including Senseis... The purpose is to benefit themselves through a platform, but everything in this very world is misused and people will do it, we are quite sure, but where in the world they dont talk about or complain. People who actually want to benefit are the ones who will get feedback and they will surely improve.
Lets take the example of that battle ranks Q&A, its very good to see that people are helping each other, Even Izuna comes when he finds time replies to the queries, Lilli did a great job keeping it up, so why dont we just try? There is only one solution to whining part "Ignore", no offense but it is true, and whoever wants to learn will receive a reply. A test for a week will do the thing and we can see how it helps. If it doesnt there's always a way to trash it?
Now I want to give an example how I came up with this idea.. My CW was checked by Alucard, he provided fair and perfect detail of why it was declined but the post somewhat wanted me to make the swords have the ability and so I added, then it was declined by Emp stating that I had multiple conduction this time and the swords are four different weapons, very well this is also a very fair reason to decline.. They wanted me to make one weapon out of the four swords, but I myself was not able to convey what i intended with those swords, I wanted them to be joining weapons from the handles using them as two in each hands, Mathy provided me with an idea of how to make that happen but again I was not sure if they will get my point.. So he explained and now its clear to me, and i will submit when i get time. In a similar way somethings can cause confusion and a better way to say is "communication gap" but using someone else' help you can ask them how will they do this and get a better view to frame it. Now this was only me, but you as a mod and all others know extremely well that you get so many pointless Qs or resubmissions to avoid this we as a joint community can contribute.
I dont have further explanation, If you still think it will not work please disregard the idea.
Thanks for taking you time to reply ^^

what you want, after reading all of your replies, your suggestion and in particular this explanation, is an open ground thread to get members to scrutinize our checkings. Senior senseis and other members giving their opinions? No.

As i said, that thread would do so much more harm that good that its actually ridiculous to even consider it.

Besides, you are only suggesting this because your weapon was decline by two mods.

The simple answer is: no, it won't happen and it can't happen. When something is declined you either take it and accept it, moving forward and working on it further, or you moan in silent and drop it. Simple.

Never will such a thread exist.

 

[Blizzàrd1]

It wasnt because my weapon was declined, I do not take these things so serious to consider changing stuff. But thanks for ur view ^^