Jiraya is the most overrated character

[Dantee]

Probably next to Minato I'd say Jiraya is the most overrated. First I'd like to say I do acknowledge his powers and achievements as a Sannin and a teacher. But it seems people like to overhype his powers and abilities sometimes.


Peins hype-

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I think this is the page that has got everyone overhyped about his abilities.

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Seriously? xd Jiraya beating Pein. Jiraya had difficulty before sage mode just dealing with the Animal Paths. The environment also was made up of hiding places to allow him to enter sage mode.

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If Pein has started with all 6 or just the DEVA PATH Jiraya would have not lasted 5 minutes.

They way I interpret this page was that if Jiraya knew our secret maybe he would have got his ass out of here and looked for the real Nagato.

Kisame's hype-

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People are taking this statement the completely wrong way. Kisame and Itachi knew nothing about Jirayas abilities. Kisame was just going off Jirayas hype as a Sannin. I cannot stress this enough.

Noted: Itachi already defeated Orochimaru, a Sannin when he was 13 and imo was ≥ to Jiraya.

Jiraya can in no way beat Itachi. Especially without sage mode. No naming for the fact Jiraya has nothing to counter OP Susanno, Amaterasu and Tsyukomi. Jiraya has no experience battling with a sharigan user especially on Itachi's level.

How will Jiraya even fight him with just staring at his feet. :sy:

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This goes for Sasuke as well.

Kisame well this battle can go either way. However I believe Kisame has the upperhand, but this is debatable.

One other silly thing I heard was that Jiraya can touch people and they turn to frogs. Not exactly. I won't even bother posting manga pages because it's such a simple thing to understand. Jiraya had to transfer sage mode chakra into his targets by grasping them and focusing.

It is not as easy as a simple "touch". Which is not something an opponent above fodder would just let him do.

I think I've countered his hype pretty well. In no way am I trying to downplay his abilities, but he is not current top 10 now IMO. Saying he would win against characters like Pein, Sasuke, Naruto and Itachi is what forced me to make this thread.

 

[Drakengard]

To be honest I feel that he can be underrated by as many people who overrate him

 

[yeahhboi]

minato is not overrated you fool, he is the most powerful ninja ever

 

[Dantee]

To be honest I feel that he can be underrated by as many people who overrate him

He is just to overrated IMO. People judge him to much on his battle against Pein. Even though he did splendid he is not as strong as people make him out to be.

minato is not overrated you fool, he is the most powerful ninja ever

:sy: Easily the most overrated character on the base.

 

[Sydd]

minato is not overrated you fool, he is the most powerful ninja ever

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[blazekev90]

Jman is overrated, his fights were #weak. He fight Oro w/ no arms using taijustu alone and didnt own #fail.

 

[Vexorian]

Probably next to Minato I'd say Jiraya is the most overrated. First I'd like to say I do acknowledge his powers and achievements as a Sannin and a teacher. But it seems people like to overhype his powers and abilities sometimes.


Peins hype-

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I think this is the page that has got everyone overhyped about his abilities.

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Seriously? xd Jiraya beating Pein. Jiraya had difficulty before sage mode just dealing with the Animal Paths. The environment also was made up of hiding places to allow him to enter sage mode.

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If Pein has started with all 6 or just the DEVA PATH Jiraya would have not lasted 5 minutes.

They way I interpret this page was that if Jiraya knew our secret maybe he would have got his ass out of here and looked for the real Nagato.

Kisame's hype-

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People are taking this statement the completely wrong way. Kisame and Itachi knew nothing about Jirayas abilities. Kisame was just going off Jirayas hype as a Sannin. I cannot stress this enough.

Noted: Itachi already defeated Orochimaru, a Sannin when he was 13 and imo was ≥ to Jiraya.

Jiraya can in no way beat Itachi. Especially without sage mode. No naming for the fact Jiraya has nothing to counter OP Susanno, Amaterasu and Tsyukomi. Jiraya has no experience battling with a sharigan user especially on Itachi's level.

How will Jiraya even fight him with just staring at his feet. :sy:

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This goes for Sasuke as well.

Kisame well this battle can go either way. However I believe Kisame has the upperhand, but this is debatable.

One other silly thing I heard was that Jiraya can touch people and they turn to frogs. Not exactly. I won't even bother posting manga pages because it's such a simple thing to understand. Jiraya had to transfer sage mode chakra into his targets by grasping them and focusing.

It is not as easy as a simple "touch". Which is not something an opponent above fodder would just let him do.

I think I've countered his hype pretty well. In no way am I trying to downplay his abilities, but he is not current top 10 now IMO. Saying he would win against characters like Pein, Sasuke, Naruto and Itachi is what forced me to make this thread.

Won't say he can beat current Pain, Sasuke, or Naruto. But an unhealthy Itachi? Certainly. Not overhyped in the slightest, most rate him as equal to Itachi, and Itachi isn't top 10 either.

 

[Bgkiller]

jiraiya is overrated... i'll just leave now.

 

[Dantee]

Jman is overrated, his fights were #weak. He fight Oro w/ no arms using taijustu alone and didnt own #fail.

Indeed. :izuna:. Orochimaru is stronger than JMan. Edo Tensei 1st and 2nd hokage. Snakes > Frogs. I can't believe people think Jman was the strongest Sannin.

Won't say he can beat current Pain, Sasuke, or Naruto. But an unhealthy Itachi? Certainly. Not overhyped in the slightest, most rate him as equal to Itachi, and Itachi isn't top 10 either.

Imo a healthy Itachi would be top 10 seeing as most don't have a counter for his genjutsu and skills. Jirayas biggest downplay is that his opponents won't even give him to activate sagemode.
I would go far as to saying he couldn't beat an unhealthy Itachi, but that's just me.

 

[Ryuu..]

Itachi is probably the most overrated character. People have told me with confidence that he'd beat Edo Madara.

 

[Drakengard]

Everybody seems to think that Jiraiya needs SM to be worth anything :/ honestly he has a lot with just base jutsu

 

[Monkey d garp]

j-man is really overrated i think peopel like A,Oonoki,gaara can beat him but he is just to loved by his fans

 

[Netsui]

Jman is overrated, his fights were #weak. He fight Oro w/ no arms using taijustu alone and didnt own #fail.

Are you forgetting that Jiraiya was drugged in that fight? U_U

And Jiraiya is overrated by some people, but I think there are more overrated characters. I don't overrate him because I compare him to some of the ninjas we've seen in the war... xd But he is overrated by some. I'm shocked I haven't heard any fanboys saying he could use Rasenshuriken in SM. xd That would be one intense fanboy if they said that!

 

[sdr2023]

To be honest I feel that he can be underrated by as many people who overrate him

Itachi didnt want to fight jiraiya even with kisames help. If not for jiraiya the whole leaf village would have been eliminated. No one else had as much success as Jiraiya without knowing the secret of the six paths of pain.

Also minato is underrated. He fought tobi and injured him and was able to fight the nine tails before the nine tails of power was reduced to fifty percent. Everyone in naruto seems to be completely blown away by the nine tails power, but they are only seeing half. Minato Transported Two TBB and the nine tails at full power itself. No one else could have fought tobi and handled the nine tails the way he did.

 

[Minator93]

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[sdr2023]

Indeed. :izuna:. Orochimaru is stronger than JMan. Edo Tensei 1st and 2nd hokage. Snakes > Frogs. I can't believe people think Jman was the strongest Sannin.




Imo a healthy Itachi would be top 10 seeing as most don't have a counter for his genjutsu and skills. Jirayas biggest downplay is that his opponents won't even give him to activate sagemode.
I would go far as to saying he couldn't beat an unhealthy Itachi, but that's just me.

How? when he intervend when Itachi was torturing saske. ITachi even said him and kisame could not beat jiraiya together. I think the sharingan is overrated. If the genjutsu was so flawless then how did hashirama fight madara and win?

 

[blazekev90]

Are you forgetting that Jiraiya was drugged in that fight? U_U

And Jiraiya is overrated by some people, but I think there are more overrated characters. I don't overrate him because I compare him to some of the ninjas we've seen in the war... xd But he is overrated by some. I'm shocked I haven't heard any fanboys saying he could use Rasenshuriken in SM. xd That would be one intense fanboy if they said that!

that had nt to do with his taijustu ablility

 

[Drakengard]

tbh the strongest weapon people can hold against Jiraiya is usually this

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But really now, I think we've gotten to see a bit of his hype come to life when he's shown to be able to do things like hide in shadows, manipulate space with his toads, defeat huge summons with his hair, have the shape manipulation to create the Rasengan, etc.

 

[Dantee]

j-man is really overrated i think peopel like A,Oonoki,gaara can beat him but he is just to loved by his fans

Exactly fan love blind.

Itachi didnt want to fight jiraiya even with kisames help. If not for jiraiya the whole leaf village would have been eliminated. No one else had as much success as Jiraiya without knowing the secret of the six paths of pain.

Also minato is underrated. He fought tobi and injured him and was able to fight the nine tails before the nine tails of power was reduced to fifty percent. Everyone in naruto seems to be completely blown away by the nine tails power, but they are only seeing half. Minato Transported Two TBB and the nine tails at full power itself. No one else could have fought tobi and handled the nine tails the way he did.

Itachi was indeed a double agent and it's very very possible he didn't want to kill Jiraya their strongest ninja at the time.

I agree no one else could have handled Tobi and the fox at the time. But he's overrated to the max people say he wins just by teleporting next to someone and rasengan to the face. FTG has so many easy counters it's not even funny. Anyone with fast reflexes can counter ftg. Minato can't teleport anywhere he wants to in a fight because his seals are noticeable. His fans are just a pain in the ass to argue with.

Everybody seems to think that Jiraiya needs SM to be worth anything :/ honestly he has a lot with just base jutsu

True but he is only most impressive in sage mode.

 

[2pops]

hes not the most overated.

hes the strongest ninja ever existed!!!!!! the pervy sage ma man. bakayaro konoyaro


naah im kidding, hes overrated. im not impressed by his performance