@Psaiyan and Darkdrago
Okay. So we agree on Part 1 him not being a slacker but you both say in part two he is indeed a slacker.
Training is an investment. An investment in time and energy and needs cycles of rest in between sessions in order to grow stronger.
Oh come on. You're not debating well. The academy is for kids. Basic is what it's supposed to be. If it was so basic then why don't all kids get flying grades? That's were early bloomers and prodigies are first identifies which means the grading system is more than sufficient. That's a fact.
Isn't that one of the few commendable things he's actually done? He had Naruto on the ground at VoTE and refused to kill him. He took the hard way choosing to train until he thought he was at a level where he could fight Itachi with his own power. It doesn't matter that he was drastically wrong and completetly didn't understand Itachi's power, it's the ethics of it. He chose hard work over MS.
Are you joking? Sasuke took Chidori and shape manipulation of lightning to new heights. He could form chidori swords, needles, an electrical field around his body. You're being ignorant deliberately here. Sasuke's fire element was also really strong, he overpowered Itachi clearly in a contest of firepower. Not providing panels you should already know these things but you're arguing terribly.
Oh he knows he has yin techs did he improve no... He takes what he gets from peoples power up and doesnt improve upon them and when it gets outdated he looks for the next easy power up. LIKE EMS.
It took him a while to actually ask for Itachi's eyes before he got the knack of his own power. He didn't look for an easy powe rup. He made an agreement with Naruto to meet each other at their very strongest and fight to the death, that's when he requested Itachi's eyes to fulfill his potential.
Part 1 he wasnt a slacker part 2 he is.
Wow, you're getting it so wrong. Sasuke's MS tech's are part of his anatomy like a limb or organ. In order to strengthen it he had to test it. But that's not enough, he also needs to have actual battle experience to know how to apply these in battle and that can only be gotten from real fights. Naruto strengthened his ingenuity by fighting strong guys like Neji, Zabuza etc. That's where he shined. That's what Sasuke is doing. It's like gym. You lift weights in order to stress and breakdown muscle then recover to have your body comensate and experienced growth.
This couldn't be more flawed. How much improvement have we seen with his MS tech's. He uses Amaterasu at a level seen by no one else. It's his own. His Susano'o has become strong in it's own right, I't his own. Every fight these things improved.
He doesn't trust Tobi and the time for training is over. It's time for action.
Sasuke is moving towards his potential each time. Name me the time when he stopped improving. Get this into your heads.
Improving isn't learning new techniques. Improving is learning to better use what you already have in real situations. Sasuke has continued doing that and Naruto is the epitome of this making Rasengan work since forever.
Your genjutsu argument is just as bad. People train in their strengths and Sasuke's genjutsu is excellent but it's not his forte like Itachi. Even then it's still extremely competent defeating a genjutsu specialist like Shi and basically allowing him to win against Danzou. How could you not notice this?
You're just being ignorant. Sasuke has been improving all this time that you say he's been slacking. Your arguements have no basis and you can't provide evidence.
Sasuke hasn't improved anything and actually ur kinda supporting me when you say rest and is an investment so immediately after he got MS did he not go and fight B and try to capture when he failed he immediately went to the 5 kage summit after that, Danzo, after that kakashi. Your right he doesnt need to win every battle but he didnt stop at B and was like maybe im not strong enough to take a KAGE since i lost to be. You think that be logical but no he didnt he took the same skills he lost to B with, and his swordmansry is mediocre @ best the 7 mist swordsmans were better past and present. I can put lightning into my sword thats nothing new B can do it. Asuma applied wind into his blade it. He needs to perfect his elements more because he could have raiton armour himself if he trained he has a mastery of LIGHTNING but not fire but he is good with fire he kinda forsaked if. Also, your ideology of him not training and him testing his MS technically would of got him killed 3x. Once at kages, Once with B Once with Danzo technically all MS sasukes fight he should of died. If itachi was healthy and he wanted to kill sasuke there would be no MS sasuke and even sasuke said he beat oro because he was on his death bed weakened he's an oppurtunist not really much of a trainer. If your reffering to his cycles of rest to biting karin's hand or arm then sure hes training with the safety on.
so going blind is good training is what im a say. and no improving isnt strengthing ur strong points idk who told u that but its strengthening where ur weak
you know what made the MS so good its not its tech's its the fact a victim never seen its tech making them unguard and not expectant. But sasuke's flaunder's it out like he has nothing better to do so yah slacking to train something that doesnt make him blind and it doesnt actually make his tech stronger tbh. ENTON is blaze release stronger than fire and amaterasu naturally eats fire so blah but at the cost of his eye get real. YIN release is tsukiyomi if sasuke trains genjutsu cuz he has a apt for it then yah itll get better but does he no... took the easy way out what he has is what u get. Fire has not come as far as his lightning.
Progress is making ur weak points as strong as ur strong points why not make a fire sword or a field of fire... Get real now ur being a fanboy.
According to what you say about academy thats not basic thats like the book u get for the test u get into the military.
basic is the bell training ie sasuke sakura naruto just because u have bad grades in academy doesnt mean ur a horrible ninja ie choji shikamaru kiba
By ur saying EBISU and SAKURA should be the strongest your really making excuses for sasuke now being book smart and street smart are different. you can learn how t play the piano from reading a boook 1000 times scales note w/e but until u actually get accustomed... no
Sasuke in my opinion is making peple get more used to his techs because he throws them everywhere hes solely reliant on amaterasu chidori and susano. If he got a better YIN his susano would be more complete anyways and so would his susano genjutsu. C is in NO respect a genjutsu EXPERT or proficient hes mainly a damn sensor......
thats like SAYING because ino can do mind body change shes good with genjutsu get real
and dont give me the crap sasuke doesnt have an apt for genjutsu he is the visual prowess of So6p its required in the forshaodwing he has some crazy ass genjutsu not this ass backward stuff.
all his genjutsu prowess lies in his susano and his tsukyiomi his regular genjutsu really sucks tbh
sasuke is 2 reliant on his susano and ms techs which make him go blind.... not anymore that he has ems
about itachi being weaker in ninjutsu he isnt
he has better ninjutsu then sasuke he just got sick.
At age 7, he graduated from the Academy at the top of his class after only one year, mastered the Sharingan at age 8, passed the Chūnin Exams at age 10, and became an ANBU Captain at age 13.
Sasuke has a lot of catching up he has potential but he doesnt achieve. Do you know why itachi achieved this, because he was a perfectionist who constantly changed.
Everyone around him has been getting stronger all the leaf's gennin, because they constantly train whether in tracking, sensing, intel gathering, taijutsu, medical nin, chakra control, strength,, speed, jus increasing their chakra. Why and how they costantly train, and I have given you evidence your just being a fan boy about it, and not opening your eyes to the fact as soon as sasuke got his new eyes he didnt train, he got what he had and forsaked everything else and became 90% reliant on his eyes. Now that he has EMS its not as much of a problem but if god forbid his dojutsu fails he's fudged royally, and why he gave up his fire for lighnting and stopped training the basics. And all his lightning techs he's done in the time skip so yah training at oro's hideout. He hasn't come up with any new jutsu or improved himself beyond there completely relying on MS techs.
