Kakashi-Cut the Crap People!!

[6pathofpain]

No Kakashi is not beating Gaara. Once Gaara goes airborne the only jutsu Kakashi is relying on is Kamui, which can be easily countered with sand.

How does sand counter a black hole(that basically what it is)

 

[inflame]

I am making this thread to see why people are over-rating Kakashi so much. Please give reasons as to why you think Kakashi could hang with some of the toughest and why he can win in some cases.

1: Kakashi cannot beat Itachi-Kishi cleared that one.
2: Kakashi's Kamui has not beaten/killed anyone, so saying that he can just one shot someone is never enough of a reason to say he wins.
3: I have heard people say that Kakashi is much stronger than we have seen and base these theories on nothing.

Use evidence to back up arguments and stop being fanboys!! Kakashi is a great character with some great moves but stop making him limitless. His limits have been set and stated and he is never gonna be the strongest.

Making my point:

This is from Madromanof on Page 2: Kakashi can fight one on one with almost all akatsuki members and kill them except itachi and nagato. You see after witnessing sasuke use all ms techs made me think even kakashi can kill him. This isnt a joke kakashis arsenal is big enough to surprise us. To keep up with itachi evem for a little aint easy feat. While itachi is fighting to kill.

Kakashi Hatake the copy cat ninja:
1) The non uchiha who posess the sharingun and MS.
2) Is nearly as smart as shikumaru ( it was said in the manga ).
3) He has mastered 4 element.
4) Copied over 1,000 jutsu's.
5) Can fight from all ranges.
6) Is really good in nearly all combat fields such as Taijutsu, genjutsu and ninjutsu
7) Well known and respected not only by his friends but also enimes.
8) By the way it's pretty stupied to say Kumi hasn't killed anyone...... Amutrasu hasn't killed any one..... Tsokumyi or however you spell it hasn't killed anyone as well.
9) Can open one gate out of 8.

I am sorry my friends but I disagree, kakashi is not overrated. For those who say he is I urge you to reconsider. By the way I am not a kakashi fan, I am a manga fan.
Sorry for spelling.

 

[Rapid]

I am making this thread to see why people are over-rating Kakashi so much. Please give reasons as to why you think Kakashi could hang with some of the toughest and why he can win in some cases.

1: Kakashi cannot beat Itachi-Kishi cleared that one.
2: Kakashi's Kamui has not beaten/killed anyone, so saying that he can just one shot someone is never enough of a reason to say he wins.
3: I have heard people say that Kakashi is much stronger than we have seen and base these theories on nothing.

Use evidence to back up arguments and stop being fanboys!! Kakashi is a great character with some great moves but stop making him limitless. His limits have been set and stated and he is never gonna be the strongest.

Making my point:

This is from Madromanof on Page 2: Kakashi can fight one on one with almost all akatsuki members and kill them except itachi and nagato. You see after witnessing sasuke use all ms techs made me think even kakashi can kill him. This isnt a joke kakashis arsenal is big enough to surprise us. To keep up with itachi evem for a little aint easy feat. While itachi is fighting to kill.

You're right

 

[Taiketsu Yagami]

agreed. but that happens all the time with fanboys.

amaterasu didnt beat one single strong foe (except maybe b), yet it's said to be way faster than kamui, so i dont see how kamui is supposed to be useful offensively.

everything else kakashi has are some defensive d-ranked techniques, fast speed and raikiri, so pretty much like sasuke at the beginning of shippuuden. with the difference that sasuke actually had chakra, genjutsu and could fly.

he's above jounin-lvl, but below kage-level. onoiki and raikage would beat him with ease, gaara would beat him and probably even tsunade. therefore he's not really a candidate for the top 10, he lacks the instant-at-any-range-killing-move, the defensive techniques or the superior speed that the other top10-chars have and obviously also chakra.

yes, but these setbacks also stop him from becoming really strong. at the same time naruto and sasuke have grown way faster than anybody and he cant really keep up with them.

Isn't that Kamui in a nut shell

 

[lswhyte123]

How does sand counter a black hole(that basically what it is)

Kamui can only teleport/warp things in it's field of vision...so the sand gets in between Kakashi and Gaara which means Kakashi can only warp the sand and not Gaara.

 

[GodaimeRaikage]

Kakashi Hatake the copy cat ninja:
1) The non uchiha who posess the sharingun and MS.
2) Is nearly as smart as shikumaru ( it was said in the manga ).
3) He has mastered 4 element.
4) Copied over 1,000 jutsu's.
5) Can fight from all ranges.
6) Is really good in nearly all combat fields such as Taijutsu, genjutsu and ninjutsu
7) Well known and respected not only by his friends but also enimes.
8) By the way it's pretty stupied to say Kumi hasn't killed anyone...... Amutrasu hasn't killed any one..... Tsokumyi or however you spell it hasn't killed anyone as well.
9) Can open one gate out of 8.

I am sorry my friends but I disagree, kakashi is not overrated. For those who say he is I urge you to reconsider. By the way I am not a kakashi fan, I am a manga fan.
Sorry for spelling.

1.And this matter because?It not like Kakashi regular eye evolved into a sharingan.The eye was given to him, so what's your point?

2.There are many smart shinobi in the series, who are more powerful than Kakashi, so again, what's the point.

3.Kakashi has master three elements,He never used Fire Release in the manga, thus he doesn't have Fire Release.And plenty of shinobi have master multiple element jutsu.Onoki has master Earth,Wind, and Fire. Mei has Water, Earth, and Fire.Darui has Water and Lightning.Kurotsuchi has Earth, Fire, and Water.All those shinobis have master multiple element jutsu plus created nature kekkei Genkai, so Kakashi master three elements isn't that big a deal.

4.Another thing that doesn't matter.Kakashi doesn't have enough chakra to used 20 jutsu, so what's the point of bringing up he copy 1000 jutsu that the majority of them he can't used in battle.Not to mention, the fact that he only copied them thanks to the sharingan, and it is pretty much a given that the majority of those jutsus are D and C rank jutsus that are worthless in battle with any powerful opponent.

5.Again, not a big deal.We have seen many shinobi throughout the series who can fight at all ranges.

6.See #5

7.See #5

8.Amaterasu hasn't killed anyone, but saying a genjutsu hasn't killed anyone is stupid.Tsukuyomi like all genjutsus doesn't killed, but it trap an opponent;given the users the opportunity to killed.If you read the manga from early on you would have known that once Itachi used Tsukuyomi on Kakashi he could have killed him anytime.That is what makes Tsukuyomi so powerful.

9.Not impressive.Lee could open up four gates as a genin.He probably can open up all eight as a chunin.Kakashi opening up one gates doesn't really bring much to the table.What is Kakashi at only one gate, Lee before he open any gates.

 

[Watatsumi]

Kakashi is more underrated than overrated, to be honest.

Akatsuki members who will lose to Kakashi:

1. Zetsu
Obviously.

2. Deidara
His clay techniques can be countered with raiton, and it's possible to see through his c4 with the sharingan.

3. Hidan
Yeah, he can't be killed. However, he can be defeated by someone who has a brain that's good enough.

4.Kakuzu
This may sound stupid, but I feel that it's very much possible. Kakuzu may have five lives and 5 elemental affinities, but Kakashi has over 1000 jutsus that he copied from others. Now, whenever Kakuzu uses a technique, Kakashi can use a jutsu that it's weak against, and that will cause Kakashi's technique to grow stronger.

This is Kakuzu during the war.

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See what Shikaku says about Kakuzu using earth style techniques which are weak to raiton? Raiton isn't the only thing that Kakashi has.

 

[eyesofthekyuubi44]

Come on now, you are the few people here who i can say i actually respect. Zetsu whether fodder or not were living breathing creatures and amaterasu killed them, no different to the crow that had shisui's eye or the snake that got burnt after sasuke vs itchi's itachi's fight. Amaterasu has killed.

For you ill say this. If you go back to sasuke vs danzo, danzo wouldve died if it wasnt for izanagi, which got him and at that time he was more or less the 6th hokage. A kage level ninja;

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Luckily he had izanagi or else thats him dead. He was totally engulfed by it. Also amatersu is actually one of the few high level techniques that has a fairly good killing record. Who has dust release killed, tbb, kamui. Obviously they can all kill if aimed properly but you cannot deny that out of these techniques its amaterasu who has killed

I respect you too man... Real talk. Yes, they are living beings, but in combat they aren't very fearsome. I mean even Ino can more or less take out a good few.

Yes, okay. Amaterasu HAS killed, but to get my point across, nobody NOTABLE.

And Danzo having Izanagi is still an ability he's had. It's like saying Sasuke only survived because Itachi wanted him too and he also had the Body Shedding technique of Orochimaru. The end result is, they still survived, but what I'm saying is everyone talks of Amaterasu as though it's killed everyone whose got a smidgen of the flames on them when in reality, it hasn't.

Kamui is also overhyped to this too. Yes, I know it CAN kill. Your head being warped to another dimension would kill you. I don't deny that any of those techniques are pretty much one hit kills, but it's how people on this site talk about them as though everyone has died from them when in reality, nobody has on page.

We'd be having the same discussion if it WAS the Tailed Beast Bomb or Kamui. It's obvious that the Tailed Beast Bomb can obliterate whoever can't block or dodge it, but until we see it actually kill someone, we can't overhype it as much as we do.

 

[FlyingThunderGodHax]

Kakshi FTW!!
Nahhh but seriously kakashi can dance with the big dogs. But only for a while.

 

[Dregaur]

I am making this thread to see why people are over-rating Kakashi so much. Please give reasons as to why you think Kakashi could hang with some of the toughest and why he can win in some cases.

1: Kakashi cannot beat Itachi-Kishi cleared that one.
2: Kakashi's Kamui has not beaten/killed anyone, so saying that he can just one shot someone is never enough of a reason to say he wins.
3: I have heard people say that Kakashi is much stronger than we have seen and base these theories on nothing.

Use evidence to back up arguments and stop being fanboys!! Kakashi is a great character with some great moves but stop making him limitless. His limits have been set and stated and he is never gonna be the strongest.

Making my point:

This is from Madromanof on Page 2: Kakashi can fight one on one with almost all akatsuki members and kill them except itachi and nagato. You see after witnessing sasuke use all ms techs made me think even kakashi can kill him. This isnt a joke kakashis arsenal is big enough to surprise us. To keep up with itachi evem for a little aint easy feat. While itachi is fighting to kill.

Deciding from the fact if I should smack you or just not even look at this... We all know Kakashi is strong. He's a High Jounin / Low Kage level.. His kumai is strong.. though it will not always one shot someone. Even as others within this post have mentioned.. But I don't understand why you are speaking to this: Madromanof. It's just retarded. Stop making
threads about the same shit. I've seen this like 100 times man. Kakashi threads... Why thread about
it at all? He's crap compared to whats out there now....

ohh gawd is you again...the dude that reads a couple of posts made by idiots,
decides thats the norm for everyone and then makes a thread about it.

Yeah man... hilarious...

 

[Dregaur]

kakshi ftw!!
Nahhh but seriously kakashi can dance with the big dogs. But only for a while.

lol kenpachi ftw!!

 

[EL MAGNIFICO]

I agree withh u ...they r getting out of sense ...

 

[MeIsOsUmSoS]

In my opinion he isnt very powerful but he still is one of the best characters overall in naruto

 

[MeIsOsUmSoS]

Kakashi Hatake the copy cat ninja:
1) The non uchiha who posess the sharingun and MS.
2) Is nearly as smart as shikumaru ( it was said in the manga ).
3) He has mastered 4 element.
4) Copied over 1,000 jutsu's.
5) Can fight from all ranges.
6) Is really good in nearly all combat fields such as Taijutsu, genjutsu and ninjutsu
7) Well known and respected not only by his friends but also enimes.
8) By the way it's pretty stupied to say Kumi hasn't killed anyone...... Amutrasu hasn't killed any one..... Tsokumyi or however you spell it hasn't killed anyone as well.
9) Can open one gate out of 8.

I am sorry my friends but I disagree, kakashi is not overrated. For those who say he is I urge you to reconsider. By the way I am not a kakashi fan, I am a manga fan.
Sorry for spelling.

This made me remember how powerful kakashi is but i guess that the guy who mad a post saying that kishi hates kakashi was right

 

[inflame]

1.And this matter because?It not like Kakashi regular eye evolved into a sharingan.The eye was given to him, so what's your point?

2.There are many smart shinobi in the series, who are more powerful than Kakashi, so again, what's the point.

3.Kakashi has master three elements,He never used Fire Release in the manga, thus he doesn't have Fire Release.And plenty of shinobi have master multiple element jutsu.Onoki has master Earth,Wind, and Fire. Mei has Water, Earth, and Fire.Darui has Water and Lightning.Kurotsuchi has Earth, Fire, and Water.All those shinobis have master multiple element jutsu plus created nature kekkei Genkai, so Kakashi master three elements isn't that big a deal.

4.Another thing that doesn't matter.Kakashi doesn't have enough chakra to used 20 jutsu, so what's the point of bringing up he copy 1000 jutsu that the majority of them he can't used in battle.Not to mention, the fact that he only copied them thanks to the sharingan, and it is pretty much a given that the majority of those jutsus are D and C rank jutsus that are worthless in battle with any powerful opponent.

5.Again, not a big deal.We have seen many shinobi throughout the series who can fight at all ranges.

6.See #5


7.See #5

8.Amaterasu hasn't killed anyone, but saying a genjutsu hasn't killed anyone is stupid.Tsukuyomi like all genjutsus doesn't killed, but it trap an opponent;given the users the opportunity to killed.If you read the manga from early on you would have known that once Itachi used Tsukuyomi on Kakashi he could have killed him anytime.That is what makes Tsukuyomi so powerful.

9.Not impressive.Lee could open up four gates as a genin.He probably can open up all eight as a chunin.Kakashi opening up one gates doesn't really bring much to the table.What is Kakashi at only one gate, Lee before he open any gates.

1) My point is, being a non uchiha it is very impressive that he can wield the sharingun, also don't forget he obtained the MS by himself (I do realize that there are a lot of theories surrounding that fact). If an extremely powerful uchiha member such as ITACHI suffers major draw backs such as going blind and wearing him self out not to mention the chakra consumption. Kakashi is doing FANTASTIC......That is my point.

2) Shikumaru was, is the smartest in the series. My point being that he is very smart which helps in Tactics and formulating plans, not to mention making him a great leader and gives him the advantage of quickly analyzing the opponent and finding his weakness.

3) WOOPS my bad i thought he mastered four.

4) This doesn't matter?!??...... a thousand jutsu's don't matter??!? what doesn't matter.....The fact that those jutsu's have the ability to change an out come of the battle, the fact that it may aid him in those battle's. So what if he only uses say 10....That is still a lot of jutsu's, and where has it been stated that he only has D and C rank Jutsu's....... and does it really matter what rank it is, given that his smart and fast, and that 90% of Jutsu's are a one hit kill, Depending on how it is used and where it is located. ooooohhhh I honestly cant believe you actually said because of the sharingun he was able to COPY those JUTSU'S.....Tell me who or what character hasn't really obtained or learnt something from another?? KISHI created the story you have a problem with that then by all means go talk to him about WHY kakashi was able to do what he was able to.

5) Actually only a few character's can fight from all range's...... Garra is one of them, AND it does matter because it can give him advantage over someone who can't.

6) By him able to fight in Taijutsu, Genjutsu, and Ninjustu gives him an advantage over many character's in Naruto.


7) Respected and Feared by his foe is a really big thing..... I well let you figure that out

8) Kumi creating a Black hole, that sucks everything to another dimension is not powerful??! Lets see he was able to teleport a bomb from Diedera to save his team and himself, he was able to suck Diedera's arm while moving on his First time...... Saved himself by teleporting the nail that deva path used, Teleporting the missile that Asura path used to save Choji, Teleported a full speed Amaterasu arrow from sasuke.......... We have seen it in action, and my friend it is foolish to say it's not that good or Deadly

9) Given the speed and strength he already posses, with one gate open and unlike Gai and Rock lee he is able to use Genjutsu and Ninjutsu...... May friend he would be a BEAST NUF SAID

I am jot saying his the strongest or the best, however people should give him just a little more credit for what he has accomplished. In my opinion he can go toe to toe with any foe, however not necessarily win but give a good run. Good night and good bye

 

[Nikohru]

In my opinion he isnt very powerful but he still is one of the best characters overall in naruto

this is a nice summary of this entire thread

 

[tristan]

Gaara > Kakashi

kakashi's techniques are powerful but he doesn't have enough stamina to pull everything off...
although he's getting the hang of using kamui and faster than ever before...he normally won't use it nowadays for offensive like what he did to deidara...but kamui on the head is really something bothersome specially nowadays that he can use it right off the bat...
(ex. kamui on susanoo's arrow - considered as lightning fast in the series)

kakashi > gaara....

kakashi has multiple elements: doton, raiton, suiton, katon >>> sand....

 

[lswhyte123]

Kakashi Hatake the copy cat ninja:
1) The non uchiha who posess the sharingun and MS.
2) Is nearly as smart as shikumaru ( it was said in the manga ).
3) He has mastered 4 element.
4) Copied over 1,000 jutsu's.
5) Can fight from all ranges.
6) Is really good in nearly all combat fields such as Taijutsu, genjutsu and ninjutsu
7) Well known and respected not only by his friends but also enimes.
8) By the way it's pretty stupied to say Kumi hasn't killed anyone...... Amutrasu hasn't killed any one..... Tsokumyi or however you spell it hasn't killed anyone as well.
9) Can open one gate out of 8.

I am sorry my friends but I disagree, kakashi is not overrated. For those who say he is I urge you to reconsider. By the way I am not a kakashi fan, I am a manga fan.
Sorry for spelling.

While I agree with what you say, as you are stating manga facts I have to disagree with the fact you say he is not over-rated.

He is a great character and as talented as you say but he still gets over-rated. Some people believe he wins over almost all, Itachi,Hashirama,Minato, Madara etc.....which is BS.

The show does not over or under rate him, fanboys do.

 

[inflame]

While I agree with what you say, as you are stating manga facts I have to disagree with the fact you say he is not over-rated.

He is a great character and as talented as you say but he still gets over-rated. Some people believe he wins over almost all, Itachi,Hashirama,Minato, Madara etc.....which is BS.

The show does not over or under rate him, fanboys do.

Lolz on the votes xd
I know what you mean about fanboys...... And sorry to say that is just plain stupid. By the way is there any way you can see who voted for what

 

[-Jiraiya-]

Hater... *cough* Kakashi Hater *cough*...