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Kakashi vs Hashirama

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fastrthnwind

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ain't gonna work, the attack is too strong for a shabby defense like kaiten to tank it

Ok im stepping in this now. Kaiten blocks all chakra attacks. There arent many super destructive jutsus that would shatter kaiten as easily as you say it would. Also, kaiten is not shabby, please do not make me go on a rant on how powerful a defense kaiten could be.

And dont say that because KN0 naruto broke it that it was weak. It was incomplete and therefore wasn't as effective as a full rotation.
 

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Ok im stepping in this now. Kaiten blocks all chakra attacks. There arent many super destructive jutsus that would shatter kaiten as easily as you say it would. Also, kaiten is not shabby, please do not make me go on a rant on how powerful a defense kaiten could be.

And dont say that because KN0 naruto broke it that it was weak. It was incomplete and therefore wasn't as effective as a full rotation.

its shabby compared to susano'o and gaara sand,
it was incomplete ? really ? where does the manga said that ?

and did you just say kaiten block all chakra attack ? LMAO we have nejigasm in here
 

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Kakashis main problem is his stamina. If he improves a lot in this area so that he could use Kamui without problems, i believe he could beat pretty much everyone.
 

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its shabby compared to susano'o and gaara sand,
it was incomplete ? really ? where does the manga said that ?

and did you just say kaiten block all chakra attack ? LMAO we have nejigasm in here

Its still very effective. I would actually say that it is stronger that gaara's sand but still slightly inferior to the susano'o.

It was shown to be incomplete when he was rotating. You could see him beginning to rotate when KN0 charged him.

And yes, it blocks all chakra attacks. Though it probably has a limit as well like all other defenses. Obvious stuff like TBB, rasenshuriken, chou odoma rasengan, Kirin would break it. Other jutsus like simple low class fire or wind jutsus wouldn't penetrate it.
 

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Leave the base. dude you opiniions are irrelvent you prooved that your just a huge fanboy of kakshi and minato.

kumai is dodged by anyone faster than dieidara.

Why do you hate this guy so much? He can be a fan of whoever he wants. Even if you disagree there's no reason to yell at him and tell him to leave the base. And this time he's right that Kakashi's biggest problem is his stamina. I won't say he could beat anyone if he had more stamina of course, but he'd be much better than he is thats for sure.
 
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dude why are you arguing with Bogard after he said minato is a GOD who can solo all akatsuki DAFUQ his post gave me cancer.
 

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Leave the base. dude you opiniions are irrelvent you prooved that your just a huge fanboy of kakshi and minato.

kumai is dodged by anyone faster than dieidara.
Why are you always yelling at me like that?Do you want an autograph? :D
And what i'm actually saying it's what i believe. Everytime Kakashi fights, he always have problem of stamina. That makes as if Kakashi can't use his full potential.
 

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Its still very effective. I would actually say that it is stronger that gaara's sand but still slightly inferior to the susano'o.

It was shown to be incomplete when he was rotating. You could see him beginning to rotate when KN0 charged him.

And yes, it blocks all chakra attacks. Though it probably has a limit as well like all other defenses. Obvious stuff like TBB, rasenshuriken, chou odoma rasengan, Kirin would break it. Other jutsus like simple low class fire or wind jutsus wouldn't penetrate it.

slightly inferior to susano'o ? LMAO no sonny its like this
susuno'o>gaara sand>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>somehwere else in the trashcan KAITEN,

that's you assuming the tech is incomplete, show where is stated then we have a deal, if not then kyubi chakra naruto is enough.

oh i remember now you're the one who think kaiten can tank susano'o arrow LMAO, am done here
 
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@respira cero

dude why are you arguing with Bogard after he said minato is a God who can solo all akatsuki DAFUQ his post gave me cancer.
Haters gonna hate!!:rolleyes: And i never said he could solo Akatsuki. He was the one saying that, so i only approved.xd
 

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ANd im allowed to flame people for there over zelous statements.

I never said you couldn't I'm just asking what the big deal is. You're the only person getting excited in here. Everyone else is having calm discussions but you seem to just want to beat this guy down.
 

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yeah i know.

he alos said in the past that minato can solo 5 kage.
LOL! Yes i've said that, but you didn't see my argument at this moment. I've said that if they fight them 5vs1 he has no chance to win, but that he could transform 5vs1 to a 1vs1 and in this configuration he can win. That's what i've said.:scorps:
 

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Sorry but this is a baseless statement.How Kakashi reached his maximum when he's getting better after each fights?

Low rank jutsus?It seems that you doesn't know sharingan abilities very well.He can even copy A rank jutsu which is high rank like rasengan or Daibakufu no Jutsu .

Sharingan can copy ninjutsu,genjutsu and taijutsu which helps to get stronger.

Your statements to say that Kakashi isn't getting better is wrong and baseless.

About stanima plot no jutsu? lol so since the beginning of manga it's plot no jutsu when he was exhausted and couldn't fight with sharingan after used only 2 suiton jutsus?

If you pay attention,you'll notice that since the begining of manga, after each fight Kakashi shows a better endurance.

Kakashi is 30 and yet look at him, he isnt getting stronger and if he does by just a little. A ninja usually hits their prime around this age and kakashi's prime is what we are seeing. He isnt getting stronger. If he does then so would gai and gai's his so called internal rival isnt getting stronger either. Tobi was right when he called both maggots;

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Kakashi can copy technique's yes but there limits. Also it depends on his chakra affiliation, chakra tank and skill and you say i dont know the sharigan very well, me?. If you did youd know that he cant just copy techniques (kg exempt), it also depends on skill.

Also due to how genjutsu works, he cannot copy it. He isnt really much of a genjutsu user anyway. Atleast not in a fight. Seems like you've based all you've said on the sharigan therefore ill break your heart.

Kishi has created a law. The law goes like this;

The sharigan drains little chakra from an uchiha, if a non uchiha uses it their chakra drains alot quicker.

The second rule is that ms takes takes alot of chakra even amonst uchiha. A non uchiha with the ms, this will take a greater toll on a non uchiha with the shairgan. Itachi in his sick state was still able to use more than enough ms techniques, kakashi in his healthy state one kamui and we see the effects it has on him.

The third rule is that the ms as soon as its unlocked, the blindness process starts and the more you use the further you increase your eyes descent into the darkness. Going by the law kishi has created kakashi will soon go blind and infact the descent into darkness will be quicker because every negative that happens to an uchiha in relation to the sharigan, the negative is greater for a non uchiha.

That is the law kishi has created if you havent noticed. As for the chakra thing, if you look at the databook yes the databook all 3 databooks, 1,2,3 kakashi's stamina has stayed the same at a 3. Never, yes never has it increased.
 
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Haters gonna hate!!:rolleyes: And i never said he could solo Akatsuki. He was the one saying that, so i only approved.xd

dude how am I a hater? I believe kakashi is strong as he was considered a potential candidate to be a hokage. About minato, I dont even wanna comment because people always think that S/T = speed with ridiculous statements saying minato is the fastest ninja....

yeah i know.

he alos said in the past that minato can solo 5 kage.

what so he is saying minato = edo madara omg bro. / picked my popcorn to watch this parody.
 

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slightly inferior to susano'o ? LMAO no sonny its like this
susuno'o>gaara sand>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>somehwere else in the trashcan KAITEN,

that's you assuming the tech is incomplete, show where is stated then we have a deal, if not then kyubi chakra naruto is enough.

If Kaiten is so weak, then how come they use it in the first place despite how much it drains their chakra? Why would they use it instead of justs dodging whatever comes their way. If it was so weak, then they could just endure the whatever jutsus is aimed at them with as much credit as your giving it. Its one of the most powerful hyuuga clan jutsus. The reason it is so powerful is that it creates a shield of chakra around the user that repels all attacks from all angles. It was also given hype that it was even more powerful that gaaras sand because of it.

Then again, everyone consistently underestimates this jutsu just because we havent seen it used much just since Kishi continually trolls the hyuuga clan.

It doesn't have to be stated if it is shown in the manga.

And yes I do think that it would survive a hit from susanoo arrow because it is made of chakra. Also the size and power of the dome can be actively adjusted to meet the situation meaning that it can be strengthened even further by the user.
 
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LOL! Yes i've said that, but you didn't see my argument at this moment. I've said that if they fight them 5vs1 he has no chance to win, but that he could transform 5vs1 to a 1vs1 and in this configuration he can win. That's what i've said.:scorps:

ok POSSIBLE but I still do not think minato can solo A. Just because he dodged his punch. If you did not realize killer bee kept up with minato speed as he instantly pointed his sword to minato as well. And i believe A has become stronger since then.

just to make it clear kakashi is not top 10. Kishi doesnt even deem his fights worthy of screen time. That should be enough evidence
 
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Give kakashi the credit he deserves, i mean itachi has 2 sharigans and kakashi has 1 and he uses it better than the little prick and crybaby sasuke.
 

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ok POSSIBLE but I still do not think minato can solo A. Just because he dodged his punch. If you did not realize killer bee kept up with minato speed as he instantly pointed his sword to minato as well. And i believe A has become stronger since then.
Only with a kunai, just see what Minato was capable to do:
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If this kunai had touch A at this moment, he would have died for sure. It's the reason why Bee came to help him.

Also when you say he became stronger it's just your assumptions which is not really a fact, cuz he could also have become weaker cuz of his old age. His prime is already behind him i think. Like Naruto said, he is only a grand pa now.
 
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Only with a kunai, just see what Minato was capable to do:
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If this kunai had touch A at this moment, he would have died for sure. It's the reason why Bee came to help him.

That wouldnt have left a mark on A and tbh im contemplating creating a thread to stop that nonsense.
 

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That wouldnt have left a mark on A and tbh im contemplating creating a thread to stop that nonsense.
Again you take your arguments as facts, and you want that we actually believe in what you say?
 

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You sound like a hater. Its no doubt Kakashi is Kage level. you cant take that away. as long as he is living he will get better too. every character will get overrated. thats life. you yourself underrate him yourself. His feats are amazing and has more s-rank missions under his belt. He's Konoha's strongest Jounin. That within itself is amazing.
 
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