Tobi can't phase through Shinra Tensei, Banshō Ten'in, and Chibaku Tensei

[neowisdom]

Read my explanation before you vote.

Just read the bolded parts if you're too lazy to read the whole thing.

I think the only techniques that Tobi can't phase through are Shinra Tensei, Banshō Ten'in, and Chibaku Tensei. These three techniques are basically the power of gravity and Tobi can't control gravity while above the ground.

Tobi is able to manipulate gravity to SOME degree since he can phase through the ground and move freely. My theory is that Tobi can only manipulate gravity when he's intangible under the Earth which allows him to move freely underground (up, down, left, right). If Tobi wasn't able to control gravity while underground then he would fall to the Earth's core and be stuck there. So Tobi can't control gravity while he's above ground and that means that Tobi CAN BE touched by gravity. If Tobi is able to manipulate gravity above ground then he would be able to fly (moving up, down, left, right in the air). So far I have not seen Tobi flown. During the Konan fight, being able to fly would have helped Tobi but he couldn't fly because he can't control gravity above ground.

Tobi was being pulled into the split ocean by gravity in his fight with Konan and Shinra Tensei, Banshō Ten'in, and Chibaku Tensei are all attacks based on gravity.

It seems that when above ground, gravity is the only thing that Tobi can't phase through. Banshō Ten'in would be able to pull him in (it lifts Tobi in the air and pulls him) but he can't be touched so it doesn't matter. Shinra Tensei can send Tobi into the air (Hinata) and more Shinra Tenseis can be used to attack Tobi mid-air. Tobi wouldn't be able to teleport away from a Shinra Tensei since his teleportation isn't instant like Minato's teleportation. Every time that Tobi tries to teleport he also materializes so other normal non-gravity based attacks would work if Tobi tried to teleport away from the Shinra Tensei.

If Tobi is inside Chibaku Tensei he would be able to move around freely inside with his control of gravity. The rocks would crush Tobi if he tried to teleport away while inside Chibaku Tensei since he materializes during teleportation. Tobi can't leave Chibaku Tensei because he can't manipulate the gravity to fly away or fall once he's outside of Chibaku Tensei. If Tobi tries to teleport away from Chibaku Tensei while outside then he would be open to attack at the moment he materializes to teleport.

So what does everyone else think? Would a Shinra Tensei be able to damage Tobi or a Chibaku Tensei can pull him in?

If someone wants to prove me wrong then they should give me a good explanation as to why Tobi was falling into the ocean during his fight with Konan. I say that gravity was pulling Tobi and that's why he was falling.

 

[MadaraHashirama]

He can teleport away.

 

[Legendary Broly]

could be possible nice theory and welcome to NB ?? haha

 

[Blaze Release]

There are many flaws in tobi's defensive capabilities and i agree if it wasnt for the fact that he can teleport, out of situations the techniques you've listed will affect him, though not sure about ct.

Also dust release (if he was in the cube) will also affect him even if he stays intangible and didnt teleport

 

[Rafeal brown]

There are many flaws in tobi's defensive capabilities and i agree if it wasnt for the fact that he can teleport, out of situations the techniques you've listed will affect him.

Also dust release (if he was in the cube) will also affect him even if he stays intangible and didnt teleport

didn't tobi safe sasuke from dust release during the kage summit arc??

 

[Blaze Release]

didn't tobi safe sasuke from dust release during the kage summit arc??

*Sigh* did you read what i said.

 

[neowisdom]

There are many flaws in tobi's defensive capabilities and i agree if it wasnt for the fact that he can teleport, out of situations the techniques you've listed will affect him, though not sure about ct.

Also dust release (if he was in the cube) will also affect him even if he stays intangible and didnt teleport

Actually I don't think Tobi would be able to avoid Shinra Tensei. Tobi's teleportation technique is not instant like Minato's so he can't just teleport away from a Shinra Tensei in a second. And Chibaku Tensei is basically a small moon with gravity like the Earth so it should work on Tobi.

 

[MrLukyso]

Tobi is NOT ABLE to phase through Shinra Tensei, Banshō Ten'in, and Chibaku Tensei

 

[neowisdom]

He can teleport away.

Tobi's teleportation is not instant like Minato's so Tobi would still get hit by Shinra Tensei since he wouldn't be able to teleport away in time.

 

[Zlad]

Tobi is NOT ABLE to phase through Shinra Tensei, Banshō Ten'in, and Chibaku Tensei

Explain kid.

 

[mat2720]

yes but if he can phase out and remove himself from existance doesnt that mean that gravity wouldnt affect him whatever? i mean he uses SPACE TIME ninjutsu, gravity comes under the category of space and tobi can manipulate it... so your answer is pretty much there

 

[neowisdom]

There are many flaws in tobi's defensive capabilities and i agree if it wasnt for the fact that he can teleport, out of situations the techniques you've listed will affect him, though not sure about ct.

Also dust release (if he was in the cube) will also affect him even if he stays intangible and didnt teleport

How do you know that Dust Release would work on Tobi even if he was intangible?

 

[neowisdom]

yes but if he can phase out and remove himself from existance doesnt that mean that gravity wouldnt affect him whatever? i mean he uses SPACE TIME ninjutsu, gravity comes under the category of space and tobi can manipulate it... so your answer is pretty much there

Tobi is affected by gravity even when intangible. If Tobi is able to phase through gravity then he would float in the air every time he uses his ability. I know that Tobi is not using chakra control on his feet to remain grounded because when he fought Konan even though he was phasing through the explosive tags he was still being pulled down by the gravity of the Earth.

 

[Mante]

So some ppl are studying characters O^O

 

[blackbird31468]

He might get affected by it; however, he still wouldn't get hurt since nothing would be able to hit him.

 

[mat2720]

Tobi is affected by gravity even when intangible. If Tobi is able to phase through gravity then he would float in the air every time he uses his ability. I know that Tobi is not using chakra control on his feet to remain grounded because when he fought Konan even though he was phasing through the explosive tags he was still being pulled down by the gravity of the Earth.

Ok just to blow your whole point to pieces and end the matter.

Tobi has been seen to phase right through the ground without getting injured in the sasuke fight between deidera, so even if tobi is slightly affected by gravity, howcome he didnt get sucked right into the center of the earth when he phased through the ground? he has to have some abiltity to manipulate it otherwise hed be stuck in the center of the earth Which further proves my point that those jutsus would have next to no effect on him

He does not have to concentrate chakra at his feet because! he is a SPACE TIME user! jeez -_- he obviously was falling because he wanted to in the konan fight -_-

 

[neowisdom]

He might get affected by it; however, he still wouldn't get hurt since nothing would be able to hit him.

Shinra Tensei can hit and hurt Tobi. You should already know how powerful Shinra Tensei can be.

 

[Raito]

I think he can. Shinra Tensei itself isn't gravity, Nagato uses his gravity power in order to generate pressure waves. Since Tobi is dematerialized, the shockwaves would pass through him. And I'm not sure gravity can affect him, after all Tobi can just sink into the ground and come back up. If gravity does affect him he would just sink in the matter when he's dematerialized. And how Chibaku Tensei will hurt Tobi? Even if he gets attracted he would pass through the rocks anyways.

 

[khaydz5]

I think he can. Shinra Tensei itself isn't gravity, Nagato uses his gravity power in order to generate pressure waves. Since Tobi is dematerialized, the shockwaves would pass through him. And I'm not sure gravity can affect him, after all Tobi can just sink into the ground and come back up. If gravity doesn't affect him he would just sink in the matter when he's dematerialized. And how Chibaku Tensei will hurt Tobi? Even if he gets attracted he would pass through the rocks anyways.

the theory actually makes sense...

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if ct can affect tobi, it can be the perfect jutsu to kill him.

he will be pulled in along with the rocks,get surrounded by it, and once he tried to teleport, he'll get crushed.

 

[neowisdom]

Ok just to blow your whole point to pieces and end the matter.

Tobi has been seen to phase right through the ground without getting injured in the sasuke fight between deidera, so even if tobi is slightly affected by gravity, howcome he didnt get sucked right into the center of the earth when he phased through the ground? he has to have some abiltity to manipulate it otherwise hed be stuck in the center of the earth Which further proves my point that those jutsus would have next to no effect on him

He does not have to concentrate chakra at his feet because! he is a SPACE TIME user! jeez -_- he obviously was falling because he wanted to in the konan fight -_-

I will admit that it seems Tobi is able to manipulate gravity to SOME degree. But my theory is that Tobi can only manipulate gravity when he's under the Earth. So Tobi can't control gravity while he's above ground. If Tobi is able to manipulate gravity above ground then he would be able to fly. So far I have not seen Tobi flown.

If Tobi could fly then during the Konan fight while he was falling Tobi would have flown and phased through the left/right side wall of water and explosive tags and then teleported away while underwater because it would have taken time for Konan to reach Tobi underwater.

I do believe though that if Tobi is inside Chibaku Tensei he would be able to move around freely inside with his control of gravity. BUT Tobi can't leave Chibaku Tensei because he can't manipulate the gravity to fly away or fall once he's outside of Chibaku Tensei. The rocks would crush Tobi if he tried to teleport away while inside Chibaku Tensei since he materializes during teleportation. If Tobi tries to teleport away from Chibaku Tensei while outside then he would be open to attack at the moment he materializes to teleport. So in the end I still believe Tobi is NOT ABLE to phase through Shinra Tensei, Banshō Ten'in, and Chibaku Tensei.