Shinobi World Wars (recap)

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The First Shinobi World War

One possible reason is that other shinobi countries felt threatened with Konohagakure for having full control of all the tailed beast. Hashirama might be hesitant in dividing the Bijuus that caused uproar to other Kages and they hoped take by force what’s being denied. The First Shinobi World War ended with an armistice treaty.

The Second Shinobi World War

Just 20 years after the First Shinobi World War, yet again the threat of imbalance Economic power and military strength emerged. The Second Shinobi World War was considered to be the most brutal of all Shinobi war, that have taken the most of lives. During this era, it showcased some of the best and strongest shinobis, from Hanzo of the Salamander, The 3 Sannins and White Fang. Also, wartime Kages were exeptional.. Sandaime, The 3rd Kazekage and the 3rd Tsuchikage.
Most of the battle happened on minor countries, one indication of Occupation and Expansion of the other Great Shinobi countries.

The Third Shinobi World War

Most probably the War started with the conflict between Konohagakure and Iwagakure. By this time, Iwagakure was noted to have used the Akatsuki as mercenaries. Konoha couldn’t tolerate such practice, and perhaps given Iwagakure the ultimatum to stop this activity. Under Sandaime, Konoha was a super power policing the entire Ninja world. The 3rd Tsuchikage had one big ego, refused to bow down to Konoha.

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Konoha won the war by destroying the Kannabi bridge. Now that’s rubbish, because Iwagakure Ninjas are highly specialized in Earth Release techniques. Building the new bridge would be a piece of cake. Also, Onoki can fly and can grant the power of flight… they don’t need a bridge to be mobile.
 

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um you forgot minato kinda had a major part as to why they won the third ninja war
 

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You make an excellent Point and your very observant so Obviously This Thread Deserves an ultimate Rep+
 

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nice work, good info man
 

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It looks like Konohagakure started or caused all the Shinobi World Wars.
 

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The First Shinobi World War

One possible reason is that other shinobi countries felt threatened with Konohagakure for having full control of all the tailed beast. Hashirama might be hesitant in dividing the Bijuus that caused uproar to other Kages and they hoped take by force what’s being denied. The First Shinobi World War ended with an armistice treaty.

The Second Shinobi World War

Just 20 years after the First Shinobi World War, yet again the threat of imbalance Economic power and military strength emerged. The Second Shinobi World War was considered to be the most brutal of all Shinobi war, that have taken the most of lives. During this era, it showcased some of the best and strongest shinobis, from Hanzo of the Salamander, The 3 Sannins and White Fang. Also, wartime Kages were exeptional.. Sandaime, The 3rd Kazekage and the 3rd Tsuchikage.
Most of the battle happened on minor countries, one indication of Occupation and Expansion of the other Great Shinobi countries.

The Third Shinobi World War

Most probably the War started with the conflict between Konohagakure and Iwagakure. By this time, Iwagakure was noted to have used the Akatsuki as mercenaries. Konoha couldn’t tolerate such practice, and perhaps given Iwagakure the ultimatum to stop this activity. Under Sandaime, Konoha was a super power policing the entire Ninja world. The 3rd Tsuchikage had one big ego, refused to bow down to Konoha.

Critic:
Konoha won the war by destroying the Kannabi bridge. Now that’s rubbish, because Iwagakure Ninjas are highly specialized in Earth Release techniques. Building the new bridge would be a piece of cake. Also, Onoki can fly and can grant the power of flight… they don’t need a bridge to be mobile.



I dont agree with the 1st Paragraph.

They could not have fought b/c Kohona had ALL of the beasts. They didnt have all of them by the 1st war, Hashi had already started giving out the tailed beasts by that time. I know this because he DIED in the 1st War. I doubt he started giving out the bijuus DURING the war, this happened beforehand.



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I dont agree with the 1st Paragraph.

They could not have fought b/c Kohona had ALL of the beasts. They didnt have all of them by the 1st war, Hashi had already started giving out the tailed beasts by that time. I know this because he DIED in the 1st War. I doubt he started giving out the bijuus DURING the war, this happened beforehand.



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He most likely died in the 1st War not he did and I don't it was all the tailed beat I think it was "Several". But your right in everything else you said
 

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Heh this is the second time I've heard you say that Iwa troops should have easily been able to make a new bridge, very good point.

But I think the main point, apart from ease of travel across, the point itself was a crucial entry route to both sides and point to be held. If people like Minato were guarding it, than it would have been hard for even the best earth user to make a bridge quickly and effectively enough.

Not to mention, it would take Oonoki a lifetime to grant all his comrades the ability to fly. Not to mention, it likely would eventually drain him and he may have a limit to how many he can grant it to at once, considering its his chakra allowing them to fly.

But mainly I think both points you made are mostly negligable given a full battalion of each village may have been on both sides most of the time, and considering Oonoki is only one man.
 

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I dont agree with the 1st Paragraph.

They could not have fought b/c Kohona had ALL of the beasts. They didnt have all of them by the 1st war, Hashi had already started giving out the tailed beasts by that time. I know this because he DIED in the 1st War. I doubt he started giving out the bijuus DURING the war, this happened beforehand.



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Nonetheless, the distribution of the Bijuu boiled down to the 1st Shinobi World War. From the viewpoint of a War Histtorian, these two points must be put into consideration:

First, other Shinobi countries were wary of the fact that Konohagakure had all the tailed beast, if not, majority of them.

Second is that the Tailed beasts 1 to 9 can't be distributed equally. Since their number signifies their power, the question of who will hold the 9 tails only lead to the inevitable war. Come heaven and hell, Hashirama will never hand down the Kyuubi to Iwagakure or any of the Shinobi countries.
 

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Heh this is the second time I've heard you say that Iwa troops should have easily been able to make a new bridge, very good point.

But I think the main point, apart from ease of travel across, the point itself was a crucial entry route to both sides and point to be held. If people like Minato were guarding it, than it would have been hard for even the best earth user to make a bridge quickly and effectively enough.

Not to mention, it would take Oonoki a lifetime to grant all his comrades the ability to fly. Not to mention, it likely would eventually drain him and he may have a limit to how many he can grant it to at once, considering its his chakra allowing them to fly.

But mainly I think both points you made are mostly negligable given a full battalion of each village may have been on both sides most of the time, and considering Oonoki is only one man.

I just hope details will be revealed later.. but nonetheless, I have to agree with you that Minato was sucha pain in the @$$! The reputation of the Yellow Flash was so notorious that Iwagakure leaders advised their men to avoid or escape at first sight of Konoha's Yellow Flash.
 

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Wasn't it said in the Manga that he handed out the Bijuu as peace treaties...? But this could have ultimately led to more people being killed if you think about it.


As for the 3rd War, it's not the bridge itself that was important, but the bridge itself served as a major supply line to the enemy troops. What Kakashi did was cut off that support, and one would assume they would hold the bridge to prevent another one being built - Which would therefore leave the troops hanging dry and I would hypothesize those as being the same troops that Minato helped to defeat.
 

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Wasn't it said in the Manga that he handed out the Bijuu as peace treaties...? But this could have ultimately led to more people being killed if you think about it.


As for the 3rd War, it's not the bridge itself that was important, but the bridge itself served as a major supply line to the enemy troops. What Kakashi did was cut off that support, and one would assume they would hold the bridge to prevent another one being built - Which would therefore leave the troops hanging dry and I would hypothesize those as being the same troops that Minato helped to defeat.

Well I think one thing he implied in his explanation is that the Iwa troops could have built a new bridge anywhere.... not just at the site of the old one. If that were the case, they could re-supply their troops via a new route. I obviously don't have a way to combat this idea, so I didn't try too. But I think it was more dramatic for Kishi to not include such a scenario when talking about the war. Call it plot no jutsu or whatever, but it also adds a, sort of, romanticism to the story if there was only one bridge and it was taken out to determine the tide of the war.
 

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Well you would assume that bridge was the fastest way to the troops for resupply... So even if they built a new bridge, there's still the chance of Konoha-nin intercepting them and destroying that particular bridge, giving it an endless cycle until either Iwagakure wipes out Konoha and builds the other bridge - Ultimately winning the war, or until Konohagakure owns the entire other side of the cliff face where the bridge was meaning Iwagakure can't build another bridge.
 

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Well I think one thing he implied in his explanation is that the Iwa troops could have built a new bridge anywhere.... not just at the site of the old one. If that were the case, they could re-supply their troops via a new route. I obviously don't have a way to combat this idea, so I didn't try too. But I think it was more dramatic for Kishi to not include such a scenario when talking about the war. Call it plot no jutsu or whatever, but it also adds a, sort of, romanticism to the story if there was only one bridge and it was taken out to determine the tide of the war.

Well said.. *two thumbs up*
 

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Well you would assume that bridge was the fastest way to the troops for resupply... So even if they built a new bridge, there's still the chance of Konoha-nin intercepting them and destroying that particular bridge, giving it an endless cycle until either Iwagakure wipes out Konoha and builds the other bridge - Ultimately winning the war, or until Konohagakure owns the entire other side of the cliff face where the bridge was meaning Iwagakure can't build another bridge.

The Nazi lost WWII because the Allies destroyed their major railways, this is true in real life but this doesn't apply in the Naruto universe.

The destruction of the Kannabi Bridge wasn't the D-Day, but Kishi has to show the event, to at least acknowledge the participation of Minato's Team in the world war. But that alone be our basis of Konoha gaining the upper hand.. totally absurd.
 

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The Nazi lost WWII because the Allies destroyed their major railways, this is true in real life but this doesn't apply in the Naruto universe.

The destruction of the Kannabi Bridge wasn't the D-Day, but Kishi has to show the event, to at least acknowledge the participation of Minato's Team in the world war. But that alone be our basis of Konoha gaining the upper hand.. totally absurd.


I agree to that. I took the whole, Minato having the people throw his Kunai behind shinobi lines than teleporting and pwning whole squadrons as the turning point of the war... Lol.
 

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um you forgot minato kinda had a major part as to why they won the third ninja war

which apparatenly mianto stalling the rock army from the bridge from being destroyed won the war. Thats the bs part. Expically since how powerful the rock village to be discourage over a mere bridge.


destorying a bridge can win a battle not a war. That much is evident from not only logic what history with real wars.
 
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