583: Danzo, Orochimaru and Uchiha Kagami?

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Hello guys! So I wanted to share my thoughts on the second follower of Danzo besides Orochimaru.


So, here he is. Features of note: He wears black glasses and has some strange mark on his cheek.

First I thought he reminded me alot about that accomplice of later Danzo, Torune. He could be like Aburame Shikuro, his father.

But what if he's, as people are speculating, actually a very important character?

I started noting this man actually looks very similar to Kagami. Also they both wear Konoha headbands which could be a hint that's not too obvious

So, I took Kagami's profile picture on narutopedia and edited it in good ol' paint, adding the fancy glasses (and the little cheek mark)
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To me it looks similar to the glasses guy :cool:

Then there's one theory that the true identity of Tobi is none less than this guy, Kagami. Kagami is supposedly very close to Danzo's age. Could be some years younger perhaps?

Now for this part I'm not sure exactly how long ago the flashbacks with Kabuto and Danzo are supposed to be.
So, how old is Kabuto in these flashbacks? Could he be, like, 8-10? That would mean since he's 23 now (I think) it was approximately 15 years ago. Danzo was 72 in Part II and he does look like 55 in the latest manga so it makes sense. The unknown glasses guy, if he's Kagami, would be very close to the same age as Danzo, as mentioned. Hard to tell how old he is supposed to be. He's behind a hood and no detailed close-up has been showed so far.

Ok, so Tobi, we can with quite certainty say he's experienced and pretty old in present Naruto time. Judging by the few shots we have of Tobi's face I'd say he's a couple of years younger than Danzo, like 68 yrs old. If he is Kagami, the age makes sense.

Also, the flashback with Kabuto = about 15 years ago.
Who was born at this time?
Naruto, of course! This means the attack of Tobi and Kyuubi at Konoha happened 15 years ago. Now Tobi bypassed the security and all that.. Hey, with him being a Root ANBU shinobi, he could totally do that!
Also Kagami and Danzo were missing among the to be elders from the kyuubi incident.
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and there's some interesting stuff to be read from the page I got this pic from even if it was posted in oct 2011 -

So in conclusion, I think the third guy is actually Kagami who is actually Tobi. Could be wrong though and I don't mind about that :) I know there are lots of good theories on who he might be. If you think there's something I missed or that I'm wrong, please explain. I want to know the truth about the mysterious Tobi too and don't think I've found the answer until it's been proved. That's all from me
 
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Actually, Every theory about tobi is quite possible... I don't even know which theory to beleive anymore some sound convincing except the "tobi is sakura's mom theory" lol maybe we'll guess right if we just think like the author, kishi does xd oh you can send me a friend request
 

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I dont think so. He is wearing the exact same glasses as all Aburame clan members wear plus we know Danzo loves having the Aburame as his guard
Yeah, it would seem like this. But still it's just glasses and not specific to the Aburame clan (Aoba wears similar glasses for example). This would be a good way to hide Tobi, behind glasses we relate to Aburame :p
 

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Why would kagami (assuming the same age range as danzou) be his teammates servant??? And why would he out of no where wear glasses and look young? Makes 0 sense! No proof what so ever to back this up besides editing a pick to make it seem legit.lol
 

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i think its a great observation..im not sure if its Kagami for sure but he is certainly starting to fit the profile. The same thing happened with Kabuto kinda thats happened with Itachi that has probably happened to Tobi i would say. These stories are being told for a reason and i can bet that. Kagami being Tobi does make sense because of age, he would have extensive knowledge of the leaf village and others. Oro and Danzou had something going on with Tobi because just the uchiha and those two elders seems to be missing from the whole fox attack equation..and look what they did to Kabuto...its very likely that if Kagami is Tobi thats what happened to Kagami (being sent to spy in all the villages for years at a time would give anyone a vast amount of knowledge on the history and stuff of everywhere). I believe root is obviously somewhere somewhat involved with Tobi and maybe even the moons eye plan. Danzou is a bad guy and him and Oro did some awful shit and they will have something directly to do with Tobi...that i feel sure of.

sorry...great theory! its wierd they werent there for the fox attack...i didnt notice that before.
 

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I wonder what kind of magic facial cream Kagami uses to look so young, not even have a single wrinkle even after age of 55+
Funny part is, that guy doesn't look like Kagami at all..
Think it does look like him especially on page 5. And yeah lol I questioned my own theory with his age. Even if we didn't get a very good idea of it, it could show a wrinkle or two but then everyone would know it's Tobi and to me it's not a big detail. Hiruzen doesn't show any wrinkles, tho he looks old due to his minimal fat cheeks etc. Kagami could be a well preserved 50ish guy (Like Tsunade. Maybe they use the same facial cream)

i think its a great observation..im not sure if its Kagami for sure but he is certainly starting to fit the profile. The same thing happened with Kabuto kinda thats happened with Itachi that has probably happened to Tobi i would say. These stories are being told for a reason and i can bet that. Kagami being Tobi does make sense because of age, he would have extensive knowledge of the leaf village and others. Oro and Danzou had something going on with Tobi because just the uchiha and those two elders seems to be missing from the whole fox attack equation..and look what they did to Kabuto...its very likely that if Kagami is Tobi thats what happened to Kagami (being sent to spy in all the villages for years at a time would give anyone a vast amount of knowledge on the history and stuff of everywhere). I believe root is obviously somewhere somewhat involved with Tobi and maybe even the moons eye plan. Danzou is a bad guy and him and Oro did some awful shit and they will have something directly to do with Tobi...that i feel sure of.

sorry...great theory! its wierd they werent there for the fox attack...i didnt notice that before.
Yeah exactly man! The flashbacks could be a way to bind the war story together showing both Kabuto and Tobi.

And if it's not Tobi it could be Shikuro which Tobi seems to know and Tobi could still appear in Kabuto's flashback which would be nice too ;)
 
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Page 5 Danzo guy seems to have the same face shape with similar chins, same thin rectangular-like eyebrows (except kagami has serious eyebrows but as we know they can adjust to your mood :p), same pointing down mouth.
We can hardly see the face of that Root member. Can't we just accept that he's an unknown Root member like Torune and Fu were?

There definitely a lot of talk about Kagami being Tobi and that is at least plausible. If this guy is Kagami, why would he need glasses? If I remember correctly, Aburama clan is famous for wearing these kinds of goggles.

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This unknown Root member being Torune is much more believable than Kagami. Why? He looks a lot younger than Danzo. Kagami is around the same age as Danzo and you can actually tell that Danzo is aging in the recent chapter. Another question would be, why the hell would Kagami work for Danzo?

Going by the assumptions people are making in this thread, you might as well say Sasuke is Izuna because the resemblance is too great.

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THIS UNKNOWN ROOT MEMBER IS NOT KAGAMI. THERE IS NO RESEMBLANCE. HE COULD BE TORUNE FOR ALL WE KNOW.
 

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We can hardly see the face of that Root member. Can't we just accept that he's an unknown Root member like Torune and Fu were?

There definitely a lot of talk about Kagami being Tobi and that is at least plausible. If this guy is Kagami, why would he need glasses? If I remember correctly, Aburama clan is famous for wearing these kinds of goggles.
I can accept that it's some member of the aburame. It's the obvious thing and I'm just thinking what if it isn't. Don't think it's Torune though but could definitely be someone related like his dad. Why change his mask? I don't see the reason.

It's not Kagami Uchiha, and it's not Torune or his dad. It's Aoba.
Don't think so. Personality-wise doesn't feel like Aoba or that Aoba belongs in Root. Of course one could change though but meh didn't get the impression that it was Aoba. Tobi makes sense in there as he has great knowledge of Konoha and is one of the coldest characters. A thing they have in common is they have killed their emotions. Aburames fit in well too
 
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Well you are wrong about the dates. When Danzo came to the orphanage, Kabuto was 6 years old. Why? Well let's see, it said Kabuto was found when he was 3 years old and taken in, which is when Mother found him. During this week's chapter, when Kabuto was leaving with Danzo, one of the kid's said what about the 3 years you spent here or something like that. So that makes Kabuto 6. Kabuto is 23 now, so this flashback happened 17 years ago. Kyuubi attack was 16 years ago for obvious reasons. So this happened BEFORE the kyuubi attack.

Plus as people have pointed out, the person with Danzo in the orphanage is not Danzo's age. Kagami would be around Danzo's age, so if he was Kagami, he would look a hell of a lot older in that flashback.
 
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