Broken System

[Zoro..]

Its not that they never use it (trust me, dan does but you somehow tend to overlook it for some reason) its that they get away with bios without the restrictions, and most of all, there are multiple examples like how Xanthe had brought up on the first post.

I dont overlook it. I see Pervy use his MS. Although when do you see him using MS, SM, Rain, Smoke, Heat sensing in a single fight? Almost never. He only uses MS when he is either bored or against a monster opponent like Goro or Kaito. He never misuses it or abuses it.

 

[Josh]

This isn't a bitching thread questioning Nexus's judgment, It's a complaint on how the system works.

Actually, since Nexus was used as an example, the MAIN example, this does make it a "bitching" thread about Nexus. You don't throw people's names into your thread about a general problem. The heat sensing (as well as the whole) complaint should have been addressed to Nexus personally first, then if warranted, a general thread outlining the problem should have been made. Nexus is the RP Administrator so claiming that the RP is corrupt is essentially claiming that Nexus is corrupt.

 

['Kurapika]

Why should they be different....Lets see because they are the ones who do all the work so we can rp.
Seriously the base is starting to trouble me everyone always has a problem with something these days...

Mods are the ones responsible for maintain equality in this forum, No need to go any further.

I dont see the problem with Nexus's judgement. I asked him 100000 times for Fuin (I think Im a friend of his o^o) and he shut me down every time. I eventually got it from winning a tourney. His judgement is fine he might just over look something by accident from time to time which is why Xanthe is mad. Though Xanthe is mad about OP stuff that they never use...

No one was suggesting that there was anything wrong with Nexus's judgment, I was making that clear, Although i believe there' something wrong with the system of which requires Nexus to judge whether someone is worthy of permission when he can't obtain enough info to base a judgment on every single person who asks him.

Actually, since Nexus was used as an example, the MAIN example, this does make it a "bitching" thread about Nexus. You don't throw people's names into your thread about a general problem. The heat sensing (as well as the whole) complaint should have been addressed to Nexus personally first, then if warranted, a general thread outlining the problem should have been made. Nexus is the RP Administrator so claiming that the RP is corrupt is essentially claiming that Nexus is corrupt.

The problem is the permission system, this is just an example and if Nexus felt as it was targeted at him somehow, he is capable of speaking for himself.

 

[Mephistopheles]

If people are going to role play fairly... Then they all need to follow the same set of rules with the same limitations and restrictions as everyone else. Don't act as if you can't change the rules of the system to effect everyone and they're only changed to effect a few - That's wrong and it's a completely flawed way of thinking.

How exactly is role playing meant to be fun when basically everyone that's a high level is extremely OP and you have no chance of getting anywhere near that level? That's like telling a kid he can have anything from the Candy Store - but it isn't allowed to contain any sugar...

Of course there are ways to change things, these ways would be very drastic imo. I don't think it is fair either that the rules have changed along the way and that the members that joined before us are more powerful, but I know I cannot change this. Don't see yourself as a victim but rather work to get where you want, this is how I try to get where I want. I bet that if you have been here as long as I have now you would be as powerful as me if not more powerful.

If you don't think rp is fun then you should not do it, there are rules, they could be improved. Bad laws are made to be broken, it is a bad law, unwritten that is, that the oldest are the strongest. Break it! Show that you can be as powerful without being OP'ed. I know it can be done.

In any case, look at it from the point of few of the people that are considered old and OP'ed, they cannot do anything about the fact that they joined earlier, should they 'be punished' for that by taking their abilities for which they have worked away? I would not like that. I think it wouldn't be a problem for them to keep it as long as they use it responsive. Don't go on OP'ed mode against people who aren't OP'ed and so on.

 

[Kurisutina]

Actually, since Nexus was used as an example, the MAIN example, this does make it a "bitching" thread about Nexus. You don't throw people's names into your thread about a general problem. The heat sensing (as well as the whole) complaint should have been addressed to Nexus personally first, then if warranted, a general thread outlining the problem should have been made. Nexus is the RP Administrator so claiming that the RP is corrupt is essentially claiming that Nexus is corrupt.

This is more then just about the corruption in the role-play. It's making sure people are aware they can't make it very far unless they kiss up to people. It's not bitching about anything, if anything it's a proof-effect-suggestion thread that aims to fix the problem of corruption.

 

[ReXii]

This is more then just about the corruption in the role-play. It's making sure people are aware they can't make it very far unless they kiss up to people. It's not bitching about anything, if anything it's a proof-effect-suggestion thread that aims to fix the problem of corruption.

Well its not like "Op" bios matter really i mean look at battle tests for instance, Didnt you take a nagato test thats a completely OP bio and im sure no one will disagree that nagato is OP, Anyway point being....Look how that ended up.

 

[Furianus]

I dont overlook it. I see Pervy use his MS. Although when do you see him using MS, SM, Rain, Smoke, Heat sensing in a single fight? Almost never. He only uses MS when he is either bored or against a monster opponent like Goro or Kaito. He never misuses it or abuses it.

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[XZA]

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he called pervy emo....i would amaterasu him if he called me emo o^o

*which i'm not *

 

[XxNaruto10xX]

+rep

 

[Jokey]

This simply is a case of hungry for powers, the Pervy sage and Mathias will beat the crap out of everyone here or put a good fight with everyone without having the abilities, they never abused it.

 

[The Doctor]

Well its not like "Op" bios matter really i mean look at battle tests for instance, Didnt you take a nagato test thats a completely OP bio and im sure no one will disagree that nagato is OP, Anyway point being....Look how that ended up.

You have to take a test to get that, and not just ask someone for it and they give it to you. >_>

 

[ReXii]

You have to take a test to get that, and not just ask someone for it and they give it to you. >_>

Yeah i believe you missed my reference altogether but for an example this will serve.

Every member who has posted here go and take a nagato test i guarantee only around 5% of you will pass it maybe less.
Then you can come back and we can talk about the difference between having good techniques and actually being able to use the techniques well

 

[Toshiro]

Having a colored username doesn't mean they should have major privileges over us (in the RP), we're all humans after all.

I completely agree with this^^
Everyone thinks that someone with a colored named is always correct.​

he called pervy emo....i would amaterasu him if he called me emo o^o

*which i'm not *

It doesn't mean for him to use a OP Ability such as Amaterasu on someone who started RP a few months back.


I would say more, but I don't feel like getting hated by others ​

 

[Demosthenes]

Well its not like "Op" bios matter really i mean look at battle tests for instance, Didnt you take a nagato test thats a completely OP bio and im sure no one will disagree that nagato is OP, Anyway point being....Look how that ended up.

In addition to what The Doctor said, you may also want to take into consideration that all of Nagato's abilities were decided upon by the staff and his level of power is not based on the accumulation of abilities that were only available in the past/only capable of being obtained through a single person's whim.


Edit: I think Xanthe's qualm is that people are capable of becoming overpowered by a means that is only possible of being utilized by a specific group. Every member of NB is capable of attempting to gain a Nagato biography.

 

[The Riddlerr]

Of course there are ways to change things, these ways would be very drastic imo. I don't think it is fair either that the rules have changed along the way and that the members that joined before us are more powerful, but I know I cannot change this. Don't see yourself as a victim but rather work to get where you want, this is how I try to get where I want. I bet that if you have been here as long as I have now you would be as powerful as me if not more powerful.

If you don't think rp is fun then you should not do it, there are rules, they could be improved. Bad laws are made to be broken, it is a bad law, unwritten that is, that the oldest are the strongest. Break it! Show that you can be as powerful without being OP'ed. I know it can be done.

In any case, look at it from the point of few of the people that are considered old and OP'ed, they cannot do anything about the fact that they joined earlier, should they 'be punished' for that by taking their abilities for which they have worked away? I would not like that. I think it wouldn't be a problem for them to keep it as long as they use it responsive. Don't go on OP'ed mode against people who aren't OP'ed and so on.

I'm going to roleplay no matter what the rules state. I made it a goal of mine to become a Taijutsu Master and get the Eight Gates... So I'm going to do that. But it was just the fact that the rules are changing and making everyone who is up and coming weaker. So now what's going to happen when I'm finally Sage Rank with everything mastered and EIG? I'm going to fight these OP'd people and sure, I could be on there level or higher with Skill and RP Experience, but their abilities themselves can do things that RP Skill and Experience just can't make up for.

I always find roleplay fun and I always will, it's just things like this that favor a certain group of people really do tend to annoy me because it almost seems discouraging as if saying "You can get to my rank, but you'll never be at my level"

And there's nothing wrong with someone who is responsible keeping their abilities, but shouldn't that privilege then extend to newer people who have joined? The Mods have just assumed that new people will abuse it and can't have it, so where's the fairness in that exactly? That's like saying... "Since he RP's responsibly, we'll give him Mokuton, EIG, SM, MS, Rinnegan, FTG and any other ability he wants because we know he won't misuse it."

The whole point for me is the fact they have it there in their arsenal for use, capable of doing things no one else can, and simply because they joined first? That's just favoritism and letting them follow a different set of rules.

 

[House]

Yeah i believe you missed my reference altogether but for an example this will serve.

Every member who has posted here go and take a nagato test i guarantee only around 5% of you will pass it maybe less.
Then you can come back and we can talk about the difference between having good techniques and actually being able to use the techniques well

Why are you going off topic with that Nagato test? If you don't have anything to add to the topic, then just leave. You were clearly being a ***** by pointing out as how Xanthe failed that test. This is a manner of clearing issues of the rp system being broken, not your own personal points on the passing rate of the nagato test and commenting on the overall performance of the general rpers as which you said "around 5% of you will pass it maybe less." :sy:

 

[The Doctor]

Yeah i believe you missed my reference altogether but for an example this will serve.

Every member who has posted here go and take a nagato test i guarantee only around 5% of you will pass it maybe less.
Then you can come back and we can talk about the difference between having good techniques and actually being able to use the techniques well

I'm taking my Nagato test. o_o

I don't quite think you get the point here. It's all well and good that they are just the best RPers in existence, and nobody in this thread will ever hope to achieve the STUNNING amount that they have, but it doesn't constitute being able to get past the rules. >_> That isn't what the thread was about, and it's been turned into, "lol they're better than you will ever be, so it's k." It's unfair that friends of higher ups are able to get permission, whereas others aren't. There isn't much of a civil-service system on NB, is the real point of the thread.

 

[Gingka Uzumaki]

I kinda want to go to basic RP bios if we're going to have these crappy problems.

 

[Josh]

The problem is the permission system, this is just an example and if Nexus felt as it was targeted at him somehow, he is capable of speaking for himself.

Most of the permissions are given by Nexus so, whether intended or not, this is essentially calling his ass out in public. I don't see anyone else saying they've had problems with any of the other people who grant permissions. :| Also, those in charge of giving out such permissions happen to also be Staff. Problem with Permission system = Problem with Staff, intended or not.

This is more then just about the corruption in the role-play. It's making sure people are aware they can't make it very far unless they kiss up to people. It's not bitching about anything, if anything it's a proof-effect-suggestion thread that aims to fix the problem of corruption.

You are contradicting yourself. You are saying that people can't get anywhere without kissing ass but then you're saying that you aren't complaining. :|

Riddle me this: If the only person who can change the permission system is Nexus, why would you point out the problem to the rest of NB without first point it out to Nexus? You have just accused Nexus of being corrupt, in public, whether you intended to or not. Your problem may be valid but people need to understand that problems like this should be handled directly by the Staff, not open to the public where we can all throw our 2 cents in about how much we don't agree with a system that has been years in the making.


Note: I won't say anything more on this issue. If it isn't clear by now, maybe one day you'll see the wisdom in my words.

 

[Jack Spicer]

I'll keep it simple. RP is about having fun, not complaining/whining. Just relax and have fun.