Minato and Jiraiya vs Uchiha Bro's
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Guy's fighting style is looking at feet and body, basically looking at everywhere but the eyes up, if he focuses there, he'll see Amaterasu coming since like you said, it comes at his face, if anything bigger than your face comes at your face, it blocks your entire field of vision, just go close to a wall and don't look straight ahead, look down a bit, you'll still see the wall same with Amaterasu in this scenario, once its dodged Swamp of the Underworld takes the rest. Also something you're missing is Minato's reflexes, Minato can see things of Amaterasu speed move as he did Raikage, Minato even saw Raikage attack from behind, Amaterasu is too slow for Raikage.
FYI if you say he'll use no eye contact genjutsu, remember it took prep for him to do so against Naruto and it took Sasuke prep to do it against Shi, they can be Swamp of the Undeworld'd in this prep time.
idk about the body part, guy just said feet o.0 , and if i stand up now, look at my brother's feet, and he throws a bottle at my head, i won't see the bottle, i may see his hands move bot not the bottle... amaterasu doesn't even have hand movements
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uchiha bro's win with mid diffcult why itachi is the key factor control destiny and rewrite events enough said.speed dont mean shit when you control reality.:scorps:
- Minato is too fast for them. That makes their only hope is Susanoo.
- Susanoo attacks are too slow to be able to touch Minato.
- Minato only needs to touch Itachi or Sasuke or even both once and he is faster than them, so it's not impossible.
- When he touch them, the fight is almost over. Susanoo or not, he will just appear behind them in an instant and kill them.
- What is even worse in that case is that Minato can teleport anything everywhere there is his markings. So that means if Sasuke attack for example with Susanoo arrows Minato will teleport it to himself and he will get killed by his own attack
These are the reasons why i think Minato can solo them
- Susanoo attacks are too slow to be able to touch Minato.
- Minato only needs to touch Itachi or Sasuke or even both once and he is faster than them, so it's not impossible.
- When he touch them, the fight is almost over. Susanoo or not, he will just appear behind them in an instant and kill them.
- What is even worse in that case is that Minato can teleport anything everywhere there is his markings. So that means if Sasuke attack for example with Susanoo arrows Minato will teleport it to himself and he will get killed by his own attack
These are the reasons why i think Minato can solo them
Don't you remember the anime and the manga, they were looking at Itachi's feet going up and up and they stopped right at the hood of his cloak. Amaterasu's bigger than a bottle, if your bro threw a table at you, that'll be more appropriate. And an example of reflexes, Ao was running through the snowy woods looking for danzo when Fuu's puppet threw a weapon at the side of his head, Ao's Byakugan wasn't on, it was an inch from his head he couldn't see it but he dodged it, Minato's reflexes are much better.
i love how you just leave out tsukyomi, like minato won't look into their eyes -_-
and your excuse is going to be - "He's a genius, and a kage from konoha, he won't look into his eyes"
yet i can call like 3 geniuses from konoha, some older than minato, and more than 5 jounins who looked into sharingan .. and that's just konoha
there is no valid basis, None at all, for minato not looking at itachi's eyes, and not getting 1 shotted before the fight even began fully
amaterasu size ranges, specifically susuke's susanno amateras, is extremely small, shruiken size small...but once it hits you , spreads all over the body..
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minato will not be able to see a small amaterasu like that coming to his head, if he is focused on feet.. which btw there is no basis to think that
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There is no excuse at all. Have you forgotten the fight between Raikage and Sasuke?? It's stated that because the Raikage is too fast, the sharingan is useless. So Sasuke couldn't even have time to cast genjutsus.
Tsukiyomi is useless as well. Don't forget Tobi is also a genjutsu user. He can even control Kyubi through Kushina with an blink of eye. That had not helped him avoid to get owned by Minato.
/sigh your logic is sooo horrible.. why am i arguing with you??
MINATO does NOT keep moving every millisecond.. NO that is a waste of chakra.. must i get you all the manga pages, where minato was just standing there with tobi,? with bee? with raikage? he only teleports to 1) dodge attacks , 2) attack.. 3) move from point a - b quickly...
minato and raikage do not just keep moving all day long... complete and absolute nonsense... juugo and sasuke were engaging with raikage in physical combat, thus shee said not even the sharingan can keep up..
not even gonna reply to the tobi thing -_-
Amaterasu disks that Sasuke shoot don't seem to have the same speed as real Amaterasu so those may even be dodged, As for real Amaterasu, a close range Amaterasu was a big as Raikage's chest which is as big as two of Sasuke's heads, no way Minato misses that, as for the whole no basis thing.
1. Minato's personality is shrewd meaning he's not much of a risk taker as this is even shown when he went as far as sealing both himself and Kushina inside Naruto to make sure he controls the fox and he used Shiki Fuujin just to make sure Kyubi doesn't fall into the masked man's hands all from a statement that 'soon the whole world will bow to me' that Tobi made, he's intelligent enough to know Uchiha are Sharingan genjutsu based, even non Konoha ninja know that, and it is known that genjutsu users of Itachi's calibre exist that can take control of people, Ao knew this, combining all this together, he won't look at their eyes, and his high level of intelligence is not required to make him just look at other parts of his body. Its basically 'I can't look at his eyes but I've gotta fight, I guess I'll look at the rest of his body' and as you know his teleportation fighting style makes eye contact a non requirement.
it is not about being shrewd, its not about taking risks, its about not being able to fight with no eye contact..
someone can't simply do it if it's not your fighting style..., orochimaru was also shrewd, a genius, fully knew of itachi's capabilities, older than minato, and what happened? Kabuto is only able to fight like that, because of the snakes being able to sense movements and heat etc.. without that, kabuto would have to look at them to fight , and would inevitably get beated... despite kabuto also being a genius.. he would have to rely on his ability to cancel genjutsu...
almost no one from konoha has not looked into sharingan -_-, i'm being 100% serious... i may me missing out on someone , but danzo, kakashi, everyone... what makes minato different? Kakashi is a observant,non risk taking person also, he starts most his battles with shadow clones and observes their movements.. Kurenai was also a genius.. to be that good in genjutsu, according to jiraya you have to be a genius...
and as for the shruiken amaterasu, they may not have the speed, but they are small, and with that so called looking at feet method, you cannot possibly see it coming to your head
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you have no idea how much times i argued this stupid logic...
here are a list of reasons, take it up with kishi
1) Plot no jutsu,
2) Plot no jutsu
3) Plot no jutsu
so lets see, because tobi didn't try using genjutsu on fu and torune, does that mean their too fast for him? :O omg
no.. kishi made that a battle of speed, he didn't put anything else in
Against Fu and Torune it's a different story. It's 2vs1 and they were attacking in combos. Tobi would have to watch the 2 at the same time,which is not simple. And also as Chiyo said, when they are 2, even if one get caught by genjutsu, the other could break through it.so lets see, because tobi didn't try using genjutsu on fu and torune, does that mean their too fast for him? :O omg
actually it would have worked better for him if he did use genjutsu, disable one, then by a touch of his hand he could suck them up , and what? itachi still used genjutsu when it was 5 v 1, i don't get your point
madara jumped down into the army of ninja, and still used genjutsu when it was like 1 vs 300
logic man logic
Its about whether you can risk looking into their eyes, Minato fights by throwing Kunai and then killing you from behind, its not eye contact required so he can do it.
Kakashi believed in his Sharingan genjutsu cancelling powers as he knew Sharingan can break Tsukuyomi, Minato doesn't have Sharingan he has genjutsu cancel like everybody else, he's not going to take such a risk.
and what about shee , raikage, kurenai, asuma etc? they had no idea that such a method of fighting would be even possible untill gai mentioned it.. then they said gai is probably the only person in konoha who can pull it off... minato will magically know how to do that?
To Owarij and Bogard, the reason Tobi doesn't use genjutsu is because, he wears a mask and its almost impossible for the enemy to see his eye, Deidara was his patner and he never saw it, give it a rest and stay on topic.