Madara vs Nagato, easy or med ?

[zenkutsu]

You better read it, because you're saying a huge fail that Uzumaki got rinnegan by himself . It was Madara who gave it to him, the facts are obvious. Anyway why do I have to cry ? I like the Madara character not of his power or anything I like the mistery and flashbacks about him. :sy: Go read manga again dude, then post here.

Uzumaki developing Rinnegan.. Good one. xd

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[narutownsyouall]

Hashirama still owns Madara. And Nagato would just Chibaku tensai him. What is Madara going to do?

 

[Ambriel]

Madara owns everyone

 

[Bogard]

If we're talking about Madara when he died, i think Nagato was stronger. He takes this mid difficulty

 

[FloriGlori]

Edo Madara is not the real Madara. He is a fusion of Madara and Hashirama. So you must be talking about EMS Madara in which case Nagato pawns.

You can't be serious, sugar.

To add something to the topic, Edo Madara as non Edo still own Nagato without much trouble.

 

[Raito]

I can't say whether EMS Madara can beat Nagato because we lack knowledge about his abilities, but Edo Madara beats Nagato with low difficult at least. Nagatos abilities are no comparison to Edo Madaras.

 

[MrLukyso]

Hashirama still owns Madara. And Nagato would just Chibaku tensai him. What is Madara going to do?

You do realize that madara has Rinnegan right sir ?

And people, the only difference between Edo and Normal madara is that Edo madaras Mokuton is on a high level almost as Hashi was, that's the only difference, the Rinnegan, EMS and the abilities he gain on his own still stays in Normal Madara. :sy:

 

[~Uzumaki~]

Well, I don't think he'll beat Nagato. Why?
Nagato can absorb Mokuton and Susanoo's attacks and fire techs, he can simply enter his dog's mouth to survive meteor since they just divide when they're hit a large summon will have more durability than the rubber tire Dodai(Rubber guy) used to protect himself and Naruto's clone, and then use Gedo Mazo to seal Madara from a distance while he regenerates from the meteor that is if it's Edo. If Madara has Kurama, Nagato can absorb its chakra and its attacks.

 

[Zato]

Madara has the Rinnegan and he seems to know very well what the Rinnegan can do. I guess it was written on the Uchiha stone tablet just like the EMS was written in detail. The only difference with Edo Madara and the real Madara is that Edo Madara can use Mokuton and the real Madara can't. The real Madara has the Rinnegan and the EMS. That right there puts him above Nagato.

 

[yuan of cruxis]

i still say nagato beats madara. sorry. Nagato has experience with his rinnegan while madara got it in his later years when he would have had less time to master it.
yes there is wood release and medninjutsu but both are chakra based and can be stopped by preta path/human path.

if we are talking 6 paths nagato, then the 6 paths would force madara to figure them out, which looking at jiraiya is a lethal advantage. by the time madara figured out how the linked eyesight worked he would already be in trouble. also with nagato's strategic control over his paths he could overwealm madara with combos. deva path could disintegrate any meteors and protect himself.

if we are talking about healed nagato by himself. then i still say nagato because his speed is amayzing, being able to keep up with both naruto and killer bee i imagine he could keep up with madara.

if edo nagato vs edo madara then it all depends on who can pull out the others soul (through the human path or the gedo mazo) first

(btw quit making him out to be some sort of god/ he isnt. he loses. he makes mistakes. he is pompous and arogant and that leads to his own downfall. if he didnt cheat and steal hashirama's dna then he wouldnt even be alive right now because tsunade would have pwnd him. also dont think natural progression makes him a master. those born with a trait are always more proficient with it then somebody that takes it later in life)

EMS is what decides the win here

 

[V1sion]

Non-Edo Madara never attained Hashirama's abilities. Kabuto clearly stated he gave that to him to increase his power to above what it was when he was in his prime. Madara never attained Hashirama's Mokuton abilities by himself. Anyways, I say Nagato takes this with high difficulty simply because he has more experience with the Rinnegan. Also, we saw how Nagato's Rinnegan completely shut down Itachi's Mangekyou Sharingan, and are unsure of whether or not visionary genjutsu works on a Rinnegan user.

 

[Kira was Righteous]

i still say nagato beats madara. sorry. Nagato has experience with his rinnegan while madara got it in his later years when he would have had less time to master it.
yes there is wood release and medninjutsu but both are chakra based and can be stopped by preta path/human path.

if we are talking 6 paths nagato, then the 6 paths would force madara to figure them out, which looking at jiraiya is a lethal advantage. by the time madara figured out how the linked eyesight worked he would already be in trouble. also with nagato's strategic control over his paths he could overwealm madara with combos. deva path could disintegrate any meteors and protect himself.

if we are talking about healed nagato by himself. then i still say nagato because his speed is amayzing, being able to keep up with both naruto and killer bee i imagine he could keep up with madara.

if edo nagato vs edo madara then it all depends on who can pull out the others soul (through the human path or the gedo mazo) first

(btw quit making him out to be some sort of god/ he isnt. he loses. he makes mistakes. he is pompous and arogant and that leads to his own downfall. if he didnt cheat and steal hashirama's dna then he wouldnt even be alive right now because tsunade would have pwnd him. also dont think natural progression makes him a master. those born with a trait are always more proficient with it then somebody that takes it later in life)

people with sense are rare on narutobase :scorps:

 

[arv993]

Madara was the trump card for a reason the only difference between the real madara and the edo one is that he is able to use hashi's ability to full, he still had senju dna to agment his powers. He has rinnegan+ems+ enju dna makinghim be closer to the sage than nagato ever was. There is a reason why his techs looked to be on another scale

 

[Kettei]

Madara

 

[Drakengard]

Does Madara get the Kyuubi to summon? If so than I go for med difficulty. If he doesn't, than it's more like high difficulty, especially if one thinks about Izanagi. Madara still hasn't shown much of his MS, but we do now that he can combined hand seals with it to make increasingly powerful jutsu. I don't buy the whole "he's not experienced with the Rinnegan" thing, as even if it were true, he'd learn soon enough with the intelligence he already has. Plus, it seems convenient that he ONLY has the Preta path and is extremely proficient with it.

 

[narutownsyouall]

You do realize that madara has Rinnegan right sir ?

And people, the only difference between Edo and Normal madara is that Edo madaras Mokuton is on a high level almost as Hashi was, that's the only difference, the Rinnegan, EMS and the abilities he gain on his own still stays in Normal Madara. :sy:

The rinnegan is not going to do crap! Rinnegan is for P***y's who cant fight with trees!

 

[arv993]

The rinnegan is not going to do crap! Rinnegan is for P***y's who cant fight with trees!

yea i sense a hater. madara ems was a match for hashi with his rinnegan upgrade he is too much. nagato and hashi would lose but after a tough battle

 

[narutownsyouall]

yea i sense a hater. madara ems was a match for hashi with his rinnegan upgrade he is too much. nagato and hashi would lose but after a tough battle

Actually I think Kurama is stronger than Nagato who is the best Rinnegan user and Madara with EMS was no match thats why he needed the fox. Seeing how there's only a handful of people who could fight TB without ocular jutsu.

 

[Raito]

i still say nagato beats madara. sorry. Nagato has experience with his rinnegan while madara got it in his later years when he would have had less time to master it.
yes there is wood release and medninjutsu but both are chakra based and can be stopped by preta path/human path.

if we are talking 6 paths nagato, then the 6 paths would force madara to figure them out, which looking at jiraiya is a lethal advantage. by the time madara figured out how the linked eyesight worked he would already be in trouble. also with nagato's strategic control over his paths he could overwealm madara with combos. deva path could disintegrate any meteors and protect himself.

if we are talking about healed nagato by himself. then i still say nagato because his speed is amayzing, being able to keep up with both naruto and killer bee i imagine he could keep up with madara.

if edo nagato vs edo madara then it all depends on who can pull out the others soul (through the human path or the gedo mazo) first

(btw quit making him out to be some sort of god/ he isnt. he loses. he makes mistakes. he is pompous and arogant and that leads to his own downfall. if he didnt cheat and steal hashirama's dna then he wouldnt even be alive right now because tsunade would have pwnd him. also dont think natural progression makes him a master. those born with a trait are always more proficient with it then somebody that takes it later in life)

How do you know whether Nagato has the better experience with the Rinnegan? Madara activated the Rinnegan by reaching the Sharingans limit, you compare Nagatos Rinnegan with someones who can attract meteors from the heaven. If strength would going by experience, Jiraiyas Senninmode would be the perfect one and not Narutos, Yamatos Mokuton would be way better than Edo Madaras, etc. etc. Experience isn't an argument, since Madara has attracted a meteor from the sky, the answer for the question who's the better Rinneganuser is obvious.

people with sense are rare on narutobase :scorps:

Who would say?

 

[USSJ Future Trunks]

nagato would actually beat madara on a good day. hes lived with rinnegan his entire life so hes mastered it on a much higher level than madara, skill wise, even if madara has raw power. plus he has rinnegan techs madara doesnt like the animal path summonings, rinne tensei, and king of hell.
nagato would flank madara and try to trick him into false security then blindside him. madara wouldnt know whats going on and nagato's battle experience with rinnegan would prove crucial.