Analysis: Who the manga says is the strongest Hokage...

[Akatsuki wise guy]

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no i read your stupid thread it changes nothing and you cant even explain how he defends himself against characters your actually dumb enough to think he is stronger than.

 

[The Dark Moon]

So much hate in this thread o.o

Why is everybody arguing over who's the strongest fictional character drawn on paper? Geez, give it a rest It's not going to make your life any easier, it's not going to profit you and I doubt it's going to help you live longer.

We all need a laugh... Spider-man meme time? =DD

 

[The Riddlerr]

This thread is filled with a bunch of ignorant kids.
So if I say Hashirama fought Madara, do I REALLY need to waste my time on that? Everyone knows that, but then you have these immature kids saying "HERP DERP NO MANGA PROOF IM DONE HURR"
If you watch Naruto you should know those basic things already, and if you have a brain you should know that something stated 8 years ago doesn't mean it still remains that way, Kishi can always change his mind.

WHY NOT JUST LETS ALL STFU UNTIL WE KNOW NOW WHO REALLY IS THE STRONGEST, CREATE THREADS LIKE THESE WHEN WE'VE SEEN THESE 3 GUYS IN THEIR PRIMES AND IF HIRUZEN WILL BE MENTIONED NOW AFTER ALL THE NEW ABILITIES AND GUYS HAVE BEEN INTRODUCED AND AFTER THE UCHIHA'S BECAME SO OP'D THEN I WILL PERSONALY APOLOGIZE TO YOU ~RYUU~

I'm no longer gonna waste my time on this thread if people are going to be so immature over a anime, I love discussing and argueing on forums, but if it's going to be like this then screw it, it's just people working on your nerves.

Just because you know they fought, doesn't mean you know the circumstances at which they fought. Until not that long ago, everyone believed that Hashirama solo'd Madara and the Kyuubi in a 2v1 fight, however we're later told that Mito Uzumaki - His wife, helped Hashirama in the fight by sealing the Kyuubi within herself.

So not even your mighty Hashirama could defeat Madara and the Kyuubi alone...

 

[Sageofthepath]

i like how you guys are trolling to each other thinking you're more right than wrong...

 

[narutorikudoumode]

Yes but that is an incredibly stupid thing to say when you have not seen Hiruzen in his prime or the 1000's of techniques he knew. Jesus. there are some imbeciles on here.

well your right but also the first hokage knew all the techiniques that were in the scroll of seals that he made like multiple shadow clone and many other kinjutsu

 

[slashestranged]

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FAIL......

you cant come up to any counter arguments. reading your post again is not a counter argument. its just bullshit. your opening point and misunderstanding of kabutos statement shows your intelligence or lack thereof

 

[Ryuu..]

no i read your stupid thread it changes nothing and you cant even explain how he defends himself against characters your actually dumb enough to think he is stronger than.

If you read the thread you would've seen this was not a comparison thread. It was drawing together what the manga has said about Hiruzen

'This isn't about 'Hiruzen (prime) can defeat Hashirama' or 'Hiruzen (prime) can defeat Itachi'. This is not a vs thread. It is to point out that, at this current moment in time, the author has clearly and undeniably hyped Hiruzen to be the strongest Hokage. You cannot argue with the author.'

You really are ridiculously stupid.

 

[Akatsuki wise guy]

Just because you know they fought, doesn't mean you know the circumstances at which they fought. Until not that long ago, everyone believed that Hashirama solo'd Madara and the Kyuubi in a 2v1 fight, however we're later told that Mito Uzumaki - His wife, helped Hashirama in the fight by sealing the Kyuubi within herself.

So not even your mighty Hashirama could defeat Madara and the Kyuubi alone...

no just no after he beat them his wife sealed it in her. even the kyuubi has a flashback of how a injured hashirama who has restrained him said he wont let him in the wild anymore and it changes to mito deciding to seal him in herself. fail

 

[Sageofthepath]

kishi really is a genius

 

[slashestranged]

If you read the thread you would've seen this was not a comparison thread. It was drawing together what the manga has said about Hiruzen

'This isn't about 'Hiruzen (prime) can defeat Hashirama' or 'Hiruzen (prime) can defeat Itachi'. This is not a vs thread. It is to point out that, at this current moment in time, the author has clearly and undeniably hyped Hiruzen to be the strongest Hokage. You cannot argue with the author.'

You really are ridiculously stupid.

you can draw together what u like but if prime hiruzen cant beat hash or itachi then he is NOT the strongest hokage. go by actual feats hes accomplished

 

[Akatsuki wise guy]

If you read the thread you would've seen this was not a comparison thread. It was drawing together what the manga has said about Hiruzen

'This isn't about 'Hiruzen (prime) can defeat Hashirama' or 'Hiruzen (prime) can defeat Itachi'. This is not a vs thread. It is to point out that, at this current moment in time, the author has clearly and undeniably hyped Hiruzen to be the strongest Hokage. You cannot argue with the author.'

You really are ridiculously stupid.

dont try to act smart the fact is he had shown nothing special got his ass kicked by oro in the past and couldnt even counter the fox. and most certainly the point of bringing up itachi is to show if he cant fight him how on earth he should even be considered the strongest and it has been hinted hashirama is greater.

 

[Ryuu..]

you can draw together what u like but if prime hiruzen cant beat hash or itachi then he is NOT the strongest hokage. go by actual feats hes accomplished

dont try to act smart the fact is he had shown nothing special got his ass kicked by oro in the past and couldnt even counter the fox. and most certainly the point of bringing up itachi is to show if he cant fight him how on earth he should even be considered the strongest and it has een hinted hashirama is greater.

Point is he doesn't need to show it if the author has told us, which was addressed in the OP which neither of you seem to have read. I'm done, i'm f*cking done.

 

[Akatsuki wise guy]

you can draw together what u like but if prime hiruzen cant beat hash or itachi then he is NOT the strongest hokage. go by actual feats hes accomplished

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh you just keep getting dissed by slashestranged

 

[The Dark Moon]

Ugh, I'm tired of all this. I'm only going to say this once. THIS is the Strongest Hokage. In all history!

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He was so strong he had to refuse the position of Hokage and decided to settle as an undercover Ramen mananger xd

 

[slashestranged]

Point is he doesn't need to show it if the author has told us, which was addressed in the OP which neither of you seem to have read. I'm done, i'm f*cking done.

the author also has proven that itachi would kick hiruzens ass. hes also proven that hiruzen cant even beat oro in a chicks body

whats your point? the strongest hokage cant even beat orochimaru?

 

[Akatsuki wise guy]

Point is he doesn't need to show it if the author has told us, which was addressed in the OP which neither of you seem to have read. I'm done, i'm f*cking done.

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you didnt even counter this so dont act like your thread is full proof cuz it is not. and if your done then stfu and gtfo cuz no one cares if your here or not.

 

[Prince Charles]

i think the man reason why people are saying hashirama is the strongest instead of hiruzen is shippuden.

bear in mind that during part 1 hiruzen was all hype and no feats.
but here comes part 2 and more stuff about the senju and wood release and ms and all that start to cloud people's mind of the big picture kishimoto stated hiruzen was the strongest.

this may seem hard to believe only because we have no background knowledge on hiruzen's prime and only hashirama's.

he had med ninjutsu
mukoton
he was a senju

kabuto stated his power was like a fairy tail to the so6p.

with all that said its perfectly understandable to say hashirama> hiruzen's prime but the main problem is the lack of hirzuens feat and no background. im sticking with the AUTHORS words until the manga saids bluntly hashirama is the strongrst hokage

 

[Ryuu..]

the author also has proven that itachi would kick hiruzens ass. hes also proven that hiruzen cant even beat oro in a chicks body

whats your point? the strongest hokage cant even beat orochimaru?

Your posts reek of fail and stupidity. Strongest hokage can't beat Oro? Was that Prime Hiruzen? These arguments are just so so poor...

 

[somekindawizard]

The manga does technically say the 3rd was the strongest, but in all other ways it suggests more than a little bit that the 1st was better. I mean whos DNA does half the story revolve around??? You speak of clarity, well it doesnt get much clearer than that.

Im pretty sure Kabuto was saying that the Hokage, as in the title/rank and not a particular ninja, is stronger than the other Kage as the land of fire has always been the strongest nation since it was first established... basically Kabuto was just ephasising the challenge Orochimaru had taken on....

The entire manga is flawed anyway, does anyone actually think that Kishi planned this far ahead when he first made all this shit up??? No. Its a manga, take it with a pinch of salt, its never going to make complete sense!

 

[Blaze Release]

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you didnt even counter this so dont act like your thread is full proof cuz it is not. and if your done then stfu and gtfo cuz no one cares if your here or not.

Although i believe hahsirama was the strongest followed by hiruzen that chapter means nothing. Tsunade's dude has been dead for over 30 years what does he know. What does he know about, nagato, ems sasuke, itachi, bm naruto, current tobi, minato and sarutobi.

Now he was alive when sarutobi was hokage, but he doesnt exactly know for sure that only hashirama is the only person that could defeat madara