[Theory] Tobi: Thread for all Tobi theories and related discussions .

[boshans]

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True true, yeah I lean more towards them being closer than 10 years, I was just saying at most he definitely could not be any younger than 10 years younger than Madara. But 5 years at most does sound better I agree. Either way it still means that Izuna would be almost 100 years old, there is absolutely no way in hell that he can be Tobi. And to everyone who would say that Madara revived Izuna with Rinne Tensei before Madara died;

Let's say that Izuna died shortly before Konoha was founded, that would be 60 something years ago, he still would have been around 40 years old at the time. Now according to my theory, Madara gave Nagato the Rinnegan when Nagato was just born, or a few months after that, that would be around 46 years ago. Madara most likely would have revived Izuna right before he gave Nagato his eyes, so if he did that, Izuna would still be 80 something years old today, since you would still age even if revived by Rinne Tensei. So that would STILL be to old to be Tobi.

 

[Sasuke2]

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Remember he also has Hashi boob somewhere on his body.
It gives life energy, even Tsunade stated that Tobi thanks to having Hashirama's cells does not ages anymore. (ie. immortal)

 

[boshans]

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Lol Hashi boob.

Yeah Tobi does have Hashi's cells forgot about that for a second, if it were Izuna I suppose Madara could have given it to him when he revived him with Rinne Tensei, if that happened. But that wouldn't make sense either, because then why would he have such an old looking face, if when he revived him he would have been 40 something. The whole thing is just stupid, non of it makes sense.

 

[Sasuke2]

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Lol Hashi boob.

Yeah Tobi does have Hashi's cells forgot about that for a second, if it were Izuna I suppose Madara could have given it to him when he revived him with Rinne Tensei, if that happened. But that wouldn't make sense either, because then why would he have such an old looking face, if when he revived him he would have been 40 something. The whole thing is just stupid, non of it makes sense.

Lol, I'm not Kishi.
I don't know, but I believe it's either Izuna or Kagami.
Whoever he is, we don't know when he enhanced himself with Hashi boob

 

[boshans]

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As much as I don't like the Kagami theory either, I do have to say that I think it is a better fit than Izuna. Kagami is most likely the same age as Danzo, so he would be around 72 today, which I think fits into how Tobi looks, wrinkles and all. And it is a more reasonable age to be than the around 100 years old Izuna would be...if he wasn't revived by Rinne Tensei and just didn't actually die like Tobi said. We don't really know how much longer Hashi boob extends your life, I mean even if you do have it you are not a true Senju, so it might not make you live that much longer just by having his DNA. Who knows. Tsunade was just speculating when she said the immortal thing, it didn't seem to me like she knew for sure.

 

[GodlyGian]

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1] Sarutobi died as a 69 years old ...
2] The flashback is non-canon
3] Shodai died some time before Tsunade was even born ...
4] Konoha is 65 years old

That only strenghtens it more.. konoha being 65 makes Tobi/Madara being able to be around 80-90 ( i actually felt like 105 was too old..)

 

[Don Drama]

Izanagi and Izanami = Tobi

I remember Tobi saying he is the second Sage of the Six path when he fought Konan. We all know that the real Uchiha Madara is the true second Sage of the Six Path. We only knew about this when EDO Madara revealed his Rinnegan. No one knew about this except the real Madara. He told the story to the 4 Kages how he obtain the Rinnegan just moments of his death.

If Tobi is just pretending to be Madara, there's no way he'll ever know about Madara's acquisition of the Rinnegan. If Tobi is just a wannabe Madara, then he's not the second SOSP but the third person to become one and making Nagato as the fourth SOSP.

With the revelation of Izanami, I suspect that Uchiha Madara used both Izanagi and Izanami before he died to change the course of his destiny. Izanami and Izanagi give birth to Tobi..

 

[LordHidan]

Re: Izanagi and Izanami = Tobi

Shouldn't edo Madara eyes are closed for using those jitsu?

 

[Darr06]

Re: Izanagi and Izanami = Tobi

Interesting theory. Sort Shroedinger's cat kind of thing... Although, this still leaves us confused as to why Tobi has a zetsu-like body.

 

[LordHidan]

Re: Izanagi and Izanami = Tobi

2nd sage of six path lost to senju?

 

[LordHidan]

Re: Izanagi and Izanami = Tobi

Interesting theory. Sort Shroedinger's cat kind of thing... Although, this still leaves us confused as to why Tobi has a zetsu-like body.

Tobi is Zetsu with magical eyeballs laboratory

 

[LordHidan]

Re: Izanagi and Izanami = Tobi

Even the sage of six path dies, sad

 

[Don Drama]

Re: Izanagi and Izanami = Tobi

Zetsu bodies is the most ideal body of all.. too bad for Orochimaru, he didn't got the chance to make any experiments using zetsu.

The only difference between Tobi and Madara is their attitude. Tobi focus more global domination, while Madara keep on reminiscing his and Hashirama's glorious past.

 

[krishan84]

Re: Izanagi and Izanami = Tobi

You all r fools because of disscussing a anime story .its useless so please come here only to download naruto manga and episodes like me.

 

[krishan84]

Re: Izanagi and Izanami = Tobi

And get focussed on ur studies.

 

[MilwaukeegHost]

Re: Izanagi and Izanami = Tobi

I remember Tobi saying he is the second Sage of the Six path when he fought Konan. We all know that the real Uchiha Madara is the true second Sage of the Six Path. We only knew about this when EDO Madara revealed his Rinnegan. No one knew about this except the real Madara. He told the story to the 4 Kages how he obtain the Rinnegan just moments of his death.

If Tobi is just pretending to be Madara, there's no way he'll ever know about Madara's acquisition of the Rinnegan. If Tobi is just a wannabe Madara, then he's not the second SOSP but the third person to become one and making Nagato as the fourth SOSP.

With the revelation of Izanami, I suspect that Uchiha Madara used both Izanagi and Izanami before he died to change the course of his destiny. Izanami and Izanagi give birth to Tobi..

If Tobi is just pretending to be Madara, there's no way he'll ever know about Madara's acquisition of the Rinnegan.

Why not...? Why couldn't Madara give Tobi his eyes before he died...? If he gave him the eyes I'm sure he explained how he got them and all.


I suspect that Uchiha Madara used both Izanagi and Izanami before he died

If this is true, then why arent the eyes permanently closed?



-gHost Senju

 

[ronus]

Re: Izanagi and Izanami = Tobi

I remember Tobi saying he is the second Sage of the Six path when he fought Konan. We all know that the real Uchiha Madara is the true second Sage of the Six Path. We only knew about this when EDO Madara revealed his Rinnegan. No one knew about this except the real Madara. He told the story to the 4 Kages how he obtain the Rinnegan just moments of his death.

If Tobi is just pretending to be Madara, there's no way he'll ever know about Madara's acquisition of the Rinnegan. If Tobi is just a wannabe Madara, then he's not the second SOSP but the third person to become one and making Nagato as the fourth SOSP.

With the revelation of Izanami, I suspect that Uchiha Madara used both Izanagi and Izanami before he died to change the course of his destiny. Izanami and Izanagi give birth to Tobi..

The eye that Tobi claims to be his a.k.a. Madara's, is indeed that of Madara's.
From all that is shown to us, I conclude this: Madara dies just after awakening his Rinnegan.
2. He gives his eye to Tobi and tells him about all his plan and past.
3. Tobi is highly trusted by Madara Meaning: Madara knows all about Tobi. Tobi might have been resurrected by Madara; put in Genjutsu by Madara; made by Madara using Hashi's cell; some imperfect form of Juubii; or some ridiculous thing that I possibly can't imagine right now.
4. Madara's plan fails but in a better way. He now possess a immortal body which can only be sealed or stopped by the original caster..

 

[Don Drama]

Re: Izanagi and Izanami = Tobi

If Tobi is just pretending to be Madara, there's no way he'll ever know about Madara's acquisition of the Rinnegan.

Why not...? Why couldn't Madara give Tobi his eyes before he died...? If he gave him the eyes I'm sure he explained how he got them and all.


I suspect that Uchiha Madara used both Izanagi and Izanami before he died

If this is true, then why arent the eyes permanently closed?



-gHost Senju

EDO Madara was summoned during his primal years, a special EDO like no other. I guess, he was summoned by Kabuto in his perfect state before he used the Izanagi and Izanami.

Just like EDO Itachi, we can't see him coughing due to tuberculosis.

 

[Don Drama]

Re: Izanagi and Izanami = Tobi

The eye that Tobi claims to be his a.k.a. Madara's, is indeed that of Madara's.
From all that is shown to us, I conclude this: Madara dies just after awakening his Rinnegan.
2. He gives his eye to Tobi and tells him about all his plan and past.
3. Tobi is highly trusted by Madara Meaning: Madara knows all about Tobi. Tobi might have been resurrected by Madara; put in Genjutsu by Madara; made by Madara using Hashi's cell; some imperfect form of Juubii; or some ridiculous thing that I possibly can't imagine right now.
4. Madara's plan fails but in a better way. He now possess a immortal body which can only be sealed or stopped by the original caster..

Before Izanagi and Izanami I believe in this theory, that it is Madara's EMS that's immortal. Thinking that Tobi was Madara's trusted assistant, the Oro - Kabuto type of relationship.

Numbers 2, 3 & 4 is too farfetched.

 

[warawar]

tobi is not from the uchiha

he cant close hes s eye
like kakashi
onlye the uchiha can close ther eye:scorps:

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