Where the h#!! is the Senju Clan...?!?

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Kishimoto trolled them.

Seriously, the strongest clan in the manga doesn't even get an effing backstory? Even the Uzumaki got a reason as to why they disbanded, but Senju clan?

Kishimoto: "LOL, Senju who?"

Or maybe they foresaw how the entire plot would go to shit and how everyone would get spammed with ridiculously OP jutsus later on so they decided to get the fuck out before shit hit the fan.

I agree with this +Rep U_U kishi is an uchiha fanboy.
 

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pls post a manga page of this

look in the data book of the senju clan ..... :) or look on narutopedia at the senju clan .... its said in the manga at the beging just look and you will find :)
 

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We have to assume they died in the first shinobi world war like tobirama senju. It said after this war the five great nations were seriously damaged.
 

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all died probably sent to war because of their power or mixed in

So they ALL died in the war...? But ALL THE OTHER NOBLE CLANS SURVIVED??? Are you trying to tell me that all of the strongest Clan in the known world was killed in war but ALL of the other clans were strong enough in the war to survive...? Where does this logic come from ???

They changed name :p. They grew tired of kicking Uchiha's asses :X.
What did they change their name to...? This would have to be a Clan(s) in Konoha. Which clan(s) do you know that possesses the chakra reserves to be seen as descendent from the Senju gene pool...?


You actually censored the word hell.
They died.

HOW DID THEY DIE. PLEASE ELABORATE.



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Didn't Tobi say that he can feel the senju-power dwelling in Naruto? So that would mean that the senjuu mixed up with other clans (Uzumaki / Namikaze) and disappeared after a while, cuz Naruto isn't really a senju.
 

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The Senju believed in peace.
Traditionally, Intermarrying with other people was a way to foster peace.

If you look at european royalty, the nobles rarely married for love. They married to cement treaties and build familial obligations between nations.

Japan has a similar treatment of nobility.

I would think that is what happened to the Senju. They didn't die out or get murdered off, they just aren't as important to plot line right now because their blood has thinned because they aren't marrying their sisters, and their using their familial ties to foster peace.
 

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I thought the when the Leaf was first created it was only the Uchiha and Senju then over time other clans entered the Leaf through peace pacts? Madara could have killed a hell of a lot of Senju before challenging Hashirama. He could have killed most of the Senju through the 9tails.
 

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5) "Most died, some survived and now working in ANBU"
AGAIN HOW DID THEY DIE AND THEY HAVE INCREDIBLE LIFE FORCE??? AND WHAT ANBU MEMBER (OF ALL THAT HAS REVEALED THEMSELVES) HAS EVER BEEN SHOWN TO BE SENJU? THE LEADER (DANZO) WASNT EVEN SENJU.

Lol they died the same way like Hashirama and Tobirama. Only the ones who have healing technique could live long through wars and since Senju's duty is to protect the village, they're the first defence line of Konoha, that means more risk they have than any other shinobi in the village.

I believe some of Anbu's are descendants of Senju. Remember that Tobirama is the founder of ANBU. He must have sent a bunch of Senju's into this organization to protect Konoha from the underground.

And Danzo is just the leader of Root, bro. Read the manga again :flaw:

I bet the ANBU Commander is a Senju. If not, slap me 1000 times :flaw:
 
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they appeared to be gang banged.

Look how the tobirama senju died 1v 20.


Hasihrama's death not known but maybe he fought a couple tailed beasts and got owned.

Maybe the clan slowly mixed with other clans and changed their names, for ezample the senju are reffered to as "the senju of the forest" and intresting enough shikamaru's clan have a special forest they protect.

The huuga clan might play a role here too. Maybe the senju tried to create eye bloodline limit after the uchiha went solo.

All sorts of potenial factors with all sort of unknowns where u can basicly think of any theory u want of what happened.



But we know the senju and huuga clans are barely mentioned in the series yet play a factor as to why the shinobi world became what it is(hasihrama started the village per contry system). Well at least we know the senju are very important. The huuga seem to left out completely.

Theory:

The whirpool country got destroyed and most of the Uzumaki clan got killed few managed to escape and settle in other parts of the naruto world....

My theory is since the Senju and Uzumaki are well buddie clans ect... that most of the Senju clan has go to the whirpool village to defend it together with the Uzumaki.... (i think that konohagakure as a whole did not want to help in that because political decisions), they got slaughtered at that battlefield.

Face it we dont even know who and why attacked the whirpool village we only know it happend when kushina came to konoha and that was around 25-35 years ago maybe even 40 years ago

(counting this as naruto is 16, his mother came to konoha at age of 9-12 yrs old she was around the mid 20 when she gave birth to naruto.)


So im guessing the last of the Senju clan died on that battlefield and few survived (Tsunade, 1st's wife...)

I think we need 2 flashbacks or story arcs about how the Whirpool country and the Uzumaki got destroyed (by who, when and details)

And about the Senju and their mysterious disapearance....


read the manga its said that the senju are scattered in other clans !!!! The only true senju that is alive is tsunade !!!

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So they are scattered in other clans? If this is true you must mean other clans INSIDE KONOHA b/c I dont know how/why they would ALL leave the Village they created and disperse on purpose. And where in the hell does it say this in the manga...? I don't agree with this.


The Senju believed in peace.
Traditionally, Intermarrying with other people was a way to foster peace.

If you look at european royalty, the nobles rarely married for love. They married to cement treaties and build familial obligations between nations.

Japan has a similar treatment of nobility.

I would think that is what happened to the Senju. They didn't die out or get murdered off, they just aren't as important to plot line right now because their blood has thinned because they aren't marrying their sisters, and their using their familial ties to foster peace.

MY RESPONSE:
Ok, I've heard this before and commented on it already. You havent addressed the point I made about this already. The Senju had a FULL CLAN at the creation of Konoha. Even if they intermarried into other clans in Konoha, this would still be evident in the case that certain families would be POWERHOUSES with their chakra capacity... but no other clan has even been seen to hold a candle to what Tsunade and Naruto are able to do. The only exception is the Legendary Sanin, so perhaps there is some truth in this.



The huuga clan might play a role here too. Maybe the senju tried to create eye bloodline limit after the uchiha went solo.

Thats a Kekkei Genki (forgive spelling). How do you "create" a Kekkei Genki in the eyes out of nothing...? And I do believe it was stated that the Huuga Clan is the Eldest Clan that exists in Konoha, so I dont know how this is possible.

My theory is since the Senju and Uzumaki are well buddie clans ect... that most of the Senju clan has go to the whirpool village to defend it together with the Uzumaki.... (i think that konohagakure as a whole did not want to help in that because political decisions), they got slaughtered at that battlefield.

I believe this the most. I think this happened more than any other theory. Kutos to you, kind sir.



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I thought the when the Leaf was first created it was only the Uchiha and Senju then over time other clans entered the Leaf through peace pacts? Madara could have killed a hell of a lot of Senju before challenging Hashirama. He could have killed most of the Senju through the 9tails.

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So... you mean to say AFTER Konoha was created Madara SOLO'd the entire Senju Clan?!? Or even most of them?!? And they would have had the other Clans in Konoha to assist them against Madara... INCLUDING ULCHIHA... and Madara still SOLO'd everyone...? With no Rinnegan?!? WTF?


Lol they died the same way like Hashirama and Tobirama. Only the ones who have healing technique could live long through wars and since Senju's duty is to protect the village, they're the first defence line of Konoha, that means more risk they have than any other shinobi in the village.

I believe some of Anbu's are descendants of Senju. Remember that Tobirama is the founder of ANBU. He must have sent a bunch of Senju's into this organization to protect Konoha from the underground.

And Danzo is just the leader of Root, bro. Read the manga again :flaw:

I bet the ANBU Commander is a Senju. If not, slap me 1000 times :flaw:

Your right, Danzo is leader of the Root not ANBU. Good Catch.

Tobirama was the founder of ANBU yes... but this means nothing. He was also founder of the Police Force which had 0 Senju in it.

I've never seen ONE ANBU that has been shown to be a Senju, and MANY ANBU members have been revealed. Both Kakashi and Itachi rose up the ranks of ANBU to the top and neither is Senju. IDK about this theory.

It was said that the ANBU Commander was the Hokage, which was not Senju. I wont slap you though lol, maybe they had "another" leader for them specifically. I'll give you that... possibility.




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MY RESPONSE:
Ok, I've heard this before and commented on it already. You havent addressed the point I made about this already......

Yes i did.

ME said:
They didn't die out or get murdered off, they just aren't as important to plot line right now.

Would you prefer to see more weak fodder ninja, or would you prefer to see main protagonists and antagonist, and reoccuring side characters?

The Senju, as an actual character/clan isn't important to the plot anymore. They could have built a chakra rocket and travelled to mars, and their significance to the plot at this point is the exact same.

Simply put, they just aren't in a position of prominence at the moment. Maybe they're in the ANBU, maybe they're in other villages as a way of fostering peace. If elemental affinity is anything of an indication of heritage, water and earth jutsu would be a good indication of relation to the Senju.
 

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So... you mean to say AFTER Konoha was created Madara SOLO'd the entire Senju Clan?!? Or even most of them?!? And they would have had the other Clans in Konoha to assist them against Madara... INCLUDING ULCHIHA... and Madara still SOLO'd everyone...? With no Rinnegan?!? WTF?

Did I say entire Senju clan? Did I say he solo'd them? I said he could have used the 9tails to kill a lot of the Senju members. Madara is able to summon the 9tails for his own usage anyway. He could have summoned it for a sneak attack and killed off a sh-t load of Senju before Hashirama challenged him.
 

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Kishi loves Uchihas and he wanted to all senjus dieeee !!! and just left one Female Slug So Senjus wont be any problem again U_U
 
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They were systematically destroyed. Hunted and executed by Danzo and Oro with help of the Masked Man. They needed their genetic material to make their own op clones. Eliminating interference from such a powerful group. It's like wolves. They are hunted and exterminated. The threat is eliminated in the attempt to control their powers. The original masked man was the secretly still-alive Madara. He would have the motive and the power to take them all out, one by one.

IDK but the ANBU commander is a good bet to be one. He's been active since Oro went rogue and up to the present. Long life, still holding an important and active position.
 

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I'd also like to note. Hashirama forms Leaf. 4 kages since then. 4 generations. Except Tobirama was Hashi's brother, so thats not really a generation. But that's balanced out by the fact that the third lived for a while. Not a lot of time for the name Senju, or indeed the powers they possessed to thinned.

One would assume there are still some alive. The best bet is probably in Anbu. Bottom line is no one knows. Kishi may or may not ever reveal it. If he doesn't? Then you hit a state of quantum awareness... You're answer is both correct and incorrect at the same time, as is my answer and every other theory ever hypothesised.
 

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My friend that is a pretty good question... where the hell are they? They are the f...ing founders of konoha... They can't just dissapear like that... even the Uchiha was alive... but they just vanished ;o...
 

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he's right no way they all died there was bunch..KISHI get ur shit together
 
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