tobi's six paths vs madara and hashirama

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Tobi would loose 1v1 to both of them, wtf is wrong with you guys ? For uchiha like madara and for beast like Hashirama its easy to fight against dojutsu. Plus madara can use those paths too, and since he's the most powerfull uchiha ever known I bet he can use even more of it, like meteor shit or something..
 

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Tobi would loose 1v1 to both of them, wtf is wrong with you guys ? For uchiha like madara and for beast like Hashirama its easy to fight against dojutsu. Plus madara can use those paths too, and since he's the most powerfull uchiha ever known I bet he can use even more of it, like meteor shit or something..
Tobi can solo Hashirama with moderate difficulty.

Tobi can solo Madara with high-extreme difficulty.



That said, even though Madara has no Motukon, Madara and Hashi win this high difficulty.


Rinnegan Madara > TOBI
Hashirama > Tobi(he has just Rinnegan and chakra chains he doesnt use or can not use any path in battle)

Maybe tobi has little chance in 1v1 but 2v1....

he would be a s3x slaive.
He can't use any path in battle? What the hell?
 
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If tobi can use his bijuus, than why not to give Madara the Kurama heh? With Kurama Madara would solo 3 tobis at one time.. Anyway Tobi didn't earned that power himself it was Atatsuki which would be like Deidara, Hidan, Kakuzu, Kisame who earned it for him, all he did was pretending to be Madara.. If tobi would fight only counting on his powers... Minato and others would solo him easily.. He was not worth of geting his power. THATS WHY I HATE HIM.
 

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If tobi can use his bijuus, than why not to give Madara the Kurama heh? With Kurama Madara would solo 3 tobis at one time.. Anyway Tobi didn't earned that power himself it was Atatsuki which would be like Deidara, Hidan, Kakuzu, Kisame who earned it for him, all he did was pretending to be Madara.. If tobi would fight only counting on his powers... Minato and others would solo him easily.. He was not worth of geting his power. THATS WHY I HATE HIM.
6 of Tobi's Bijuus = 1 Kurama.

And Tobi himself > Madara IMO.

And villains are supposed to be smart and manipulative like he is. Besides, he attained his S/T techs himself, and he does seem to have had the Rinnegan at some other point in his life.
 

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What do you mean Tobi itself > madara?
If 1v1 only using self power no summons no shits.. Madara is the strongest shinobie right now no one can denie that ? Tobi alone would loose to plenty of shinobies includign Sasuke, itachi, Nagato, Minato, Tobirama, Hashirama, Madara and plenty of others..

Kurama blew away 6 bijuu damas so ye that would do it.
 

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No really dude you're the one who's trully fanboy? How the heck can Tobi who can use only Base sharingan and S/T defeat, EMS + Rinnegan ? Madara wouldn't even need to use Mokuton on Oponent like that, All tobi strenght is from Akatsuki which he does not deserve, live with it.. It's sad true lol.
 

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What do you mean Tobi itself > madara?
If 1v1 only using self power no summons no shits.. Madara is the strongest shinobie right now no one can denie that ? Tobi alone would loose to plenty of shinobies includign Sasuke, itachi, Nagato, Minato, Tobirama, Hashirama, Madara and plenty of others..

Kurama blew away 6 bijuu damas so ye that would do it.
Tobi has the Rinnegan. That makes him alone better than most, if not all, of the ninja world. And adding in his S/T techs would be overkill to anyone but Madara, and possibly Nagato.

^^That's what I meant by Tobi himself.

And Tobi's bijuu bombs equaled to Kurama's. And he was using 5 bijuus. So If you give him the 6 he used (and that's still discounting his 7th), he'd probably be able to overpower Kurama.

Besides, Madara doesn't have Kurama anymore, so no need to bring this in.

And Tobi has Gedo Mazo to give Madara an even harder time.


-6 Bijuu Bombs would be enough to take out Madara's Susanoo IMO
-Tobi's been shown to be immune to Amaterasu
-Genjutsu is no issue on Tobi
-Tobi's S/T techs are enough to evade Motukon and reach Madara
-Gedo Mazo would be a constant issue to Madara on top of Tobi's Rinnegan techs



No really dude you're the one who's trully fanboy? How the heck can Tobi who can use only Base sharingan and S/T defeat, EMS + Rinnegan ? Madara wouldn't even need to use Mokuton on Oponent like that, All tobi strenght is from Akatsuki which he does not deserve, live with it.. It's sad true lol.
Base Tobi has the Rinnegan...

And no one, other than Minato and Konan, has been shown to be able to counter Tobi's S/T techs.

-Madara isn't as fast as Minato, not at all.
-Madara doesn't have the ability to keep a constant, never-ending, chain of destructive attacks for more than 5 minutes. And Tobi can use Shinra Tensei to blow any attack away.
 
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- Mokuton and Susanoo would be enough to end the things with bijuus, just like the hashirama did with Nine tails.
- He's not immune to it, I bet he just sealed it in something like Jirayia did or something, there's no chance people can be immune to Amaterasu, one of the strongest jutsus.
- No one said Madara will need genjutsu, but I dont get it why Tsukuyomi would be no use on Tobi ?
- They're not enough.. If Tobi would want to win he would need to materilize, and since mokuton is "Not bad" technique it would get him for sure.. Dude S/T is not everything.. Just like saying FTG is god.
- Gedo mazo would be ripped to shreads by Susanoo and Mokuton, and we don't know maybe madara has his own summonings ?

And dude you said 1v1 fight without any help comming from others, since all tobi power comes from Akatsuki jobs, which is bijuus alone he doesn't stand a chance..
 

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- Mokuton and Susanoo would be enough to end the things with bijuus, just like the hashirama did with Nine tails.
- He's not immune to it, I bet he just sealed it in something like Jirayia did or something, there's no chance people can be immune to Amaterasu, one of the strongest jutsus.
- No one said Madara will need genjutsu, but I dont get it why Tsukuyomi would be no use on Tobi ?
- They're not enough.. If Tobi would want to win he would need to materilize, and since mokuton is "Not bad" technique it would get him for sure.. Dude S/T is not everything.. Just like saying FTG is god.
- Gedo mazo would be ripped to shreads by Susanoo and Mokuton, and we don't know maybe madara has his own summonings ?

And dude you said 1v1 fight without any help comming from others, since all tobi power comes from Akatsuki jobs, which is bijuus alone he doesn't stand a chance..
-Fine, Motukon > 6 Bijuus. But Tobi would have an easy opportunity to rip apart Madara while he's occupied by the incoming Bijuu Damas.
-He survived Amaterasu once without a scratch, he can do it again.
-Tsukuyomi might work on Tobi, but Tobi has his own powerful arsenal of genjutsu. I doubt either of them would try using genjutsu on eachother.
-Tobi's S/T techs allow him to go intangible. He can use either his S/T OR the Rinnegan to evade Motukon. All he needs to do is warp through Motukon, and get near Madara. Then he can use his Rinnegan techs on him. And Madara would still be preoccupied with the 6 bijuus.
-Gedo Mazo isn't that weak. Its easily twice as big as a Susanoo, and with Tobi it has the chakra of 7 bijuus in it. Saying that Motukon + Susanoo would rip it to shreds is in assumption.


While Madara would be busy using Motukon to take care of 6 bijuus at once, Tobi would have many chances to beat him with Gedo Mazo, his Rinnegan, or his S/T techs.




And no, I was just stating that current Tobi without his bijuus would be able to beat current Madara without Kurama. And I'm sure Tobi would be able to capture the jinchuuriki himself. But why waste time?




By the way, I still think Madara is second strongest only behind to Tobi. I don't think he's weak at all. None of us are going to give up here, let's just let each other have our opinions xd
 

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Base Tobi has the Rinnegan...

And no one, other than Minato and Konan, has been shown to be able to counter Tobi's S/T techs.

-Madara isn't as fast as Minato, not at all.
-Madara doesn't have the ability to keep a constant, never-ending, chain of destructive attacks for more than 5 minutes. And Tobi can use Shinra Tensei to blow any attack away.


And no one, other than Minato and Konan, has been shown to be able to counter Tobi's S/T techs.

Minato countered it with FTG + Rasengan..
Konan.. Tobi used IZANAGI not his S/T jutsu dude get a life..

- Madara can't teleport himself, but without teleports he's faster then minato.
- Madara has rinnegan also which allows him to use Shinra tensei also.. So don't give me those bleaks Tenseis and Paths of Tobis.. Madara has Rinnegan which means he can use those too inlucding Susanoo and Amaterasu along with Tsukuyomi..
 
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