Itachi vs deva path

[kotoamatsukami]

Dafuq. What i am trying to say is that just because you have the superior eyes doesnt mean ms genjutsu or ninjutsu wouldnt work on you.

At the highlighted part, im not sure what to say. It itachi's plan went ahead then yes sasuke would be bound to ka

yea i went bac an added koto in my post i guess i did it to late....but anyway u dont kno that now do u.

 

[Blaze Release]

You said genjutsu works vs dead bodies surely then Itachi should of used genjutsu vs Nagato as its effective that certainly would make sense using your logic because Nagato would get caught in it right?In every fight hes ever been in wether it was 2v5 2v2 1v1 he has always used genjutsu first you cannot say this was different because he does it regardless whose there there are only 2 main options why he didnt use it

1.Nagato ishighly resistant to genjutsu
2.Itachi forgot to use it vs the toughest person he ever fought

Genjutsu between High tier oppenents has never been the end game i cannot think of a single High tier person who has been killed because they got caught in it then stabbed while paralysed,those people you mentioned are not as strong as Nagato and Itachi either and the ones you mentioned cant cast genjutsu either Nagato can+they dont have the rinnegan or sharringan so its not really the same

As i said just because a ninja hasnt used a technique against a another means nothing, merely kishi's doing. Example if jiraiya had used the swamp of the underworld against nagato's summonings he wouldve been able to get into sm alot easier. Similarly if he had used the toad mouth technique, agains the paths from the start, all 3 path do not have a technique to destroy that toad stomach, yet jiraiya didnt use it. Not because it wouldnt be successful because it would, but because its all kishi's doing.

Secondly it wasnt itachi's fight. He was in the background for majority of the fight. Also you say genjutsu doesnt work on the dead and yet ka a genjutsu worked on itachi or am i missing something. Also genjutsu has already worked on the paths although it was a sound genjutsu.

Genjutsu sure hasnt killed betwenn high level shinobi's but you see itachi couldve killed oro. He couldve let deidora blew himself up. Couldve killed kakashi, couldve killed sasuke, couldve killed naruto. Also the 2nd mizukage who is main fighting style being genjutsu killed the mu, although both died.

 

[kotoamatsukami]

What Deva path is not fast enough to dodge Amaterasu

i guess u have not seen him run be4 did u hes pretty fast he will push the flames off once an he will think itachi will use it again an just run around itachi 4 5sec untill he can use his move once again itachi will be putting himself in danger from useing it to much.

 

[Kakashi Fang]

naw u will neva beat itachi that quick just when u think u got him u see nonthing but crows.

Lol True that.

I was just saying it like that because people think genjutsu would end the fight automatically.

Genjutsu can trap Deva, but nothing more.
Itachi can't even capitalize on the mental distress of Deva because it has no conscience, Nagato thinks for it. Therefore, genjutsu would be a waste of time.

Unless Itachi makes a false reality like he did against Deidara, and make deva fly into his own Chibaku Tensei.

 

[Kira was Righteous]

As i said just because a ninja hasnt used a technique against a another means nothing, merely kishi's doing. Example if jiraiya had used the swamp of the underworld against nagato's summonings he wouldve been able to get into sm alot easier. Similarly if he had used the toad mouth technique, agains the paths from the start, all 3 path do not have a technique to destroy that toad stomach, yet jiraiya didnt use it. Not because it wouldnt be successful because it would, but because its all kishi's doing.

Secondly it wasnt itachi's fight. He was in the background for majority of the fight. Also you say genjutsu doesnt work on the dead and yet ka a genjutsu worked on itachi or am i missing something.

Genjutsu sure hasnt killed betwenn high level shinobi's but you see itachi couldve killed oro. He couldve let deidora blew himself up. Also the 2nd mizukage who is main fighting style being genjutsu killed the mu, although both died

Kishis fault then huh xd I never said Genjutsu doesnt work on the dead in fact my whole argument is based on that it does.Everything else i semi agree on.

Edited: i think pain would win purely because of CT if yasaka is enough to destroy it at its core then i think Itachi could overcome seeing as he has no preta or any other paths...abilty to fly and Banso tenin would be very difficult for him though

 

[Ambriel]

i guess u have not seen him run be4 did u hes pretty fast he will push the flames off once an he will think itachi will use it again an just run around itachi 4 5sec untill he can use his move once again itachi will be putting himself in danger from useing it to much.

Link me pics of Deva path speed

 

[kotoamatsukami]

Jiraiya's Genjutsu was successful because he had partners ofcourse. While the two old frog sages had the paths in a genjutsu Jiraiya was able to move around freely and kill the bodies.

Itachi does not have the luxury of moving around freely while his target is in a Genjutsu. All Itachi is doing is stalling if he puts Deva in a Genjutsu, no matter what kind because in order to attack Itachi will have to first release the Genjutsu and since a zombie path cannot suffer from mental damage (like Kakashi) for Itachi to capitalize off of then as soon as the genjutsu is done Deva can continue his assault on Itachi like he was never in a genjutsu in the first place.

so when sasuke put danzo in tsukiyomi i think he moved to danzo while he was in it not to sure thoe.

 

[Kakashi Fang]

As i said just because a ninja hasnt used a technique against a another means nothing, merely kishi's doing. Example if jiraiya had used the swamp of the underworld against nagato's summonings he wouldve been able to get into sm alot easier. Similarly if he had used the toad mouth technique, agains the paths from the start, all 3 path do not have a technique to destroy that toad stomach, yet jiraiya didnt use it. Not because it wouldnt be successful because it would, but because its all kishi's doing.

Secondly it wasnt itachi's fight. He was in the background for majority of the fight. Also you say genjutsu doesnt work on the dead and yet ka a genjutsu worked on itachi or am i missing something. Also genjutsu has already worked on the paths although it was a sound genjutsu.

Genjutsu sure hasnt killed betwenn high level shinobi's but you see itachi couldve killed oro. He couldve let deidora blew himself up. Couldve killed kakashi, couldve killed sasuke, couldve killed naruto. Also the 2nd mizukage who is main fighting style being genjutsu killed the mu, although both died.

If the Paths would have been inside the toad mouth they could have gotten out easily via Animal Path summoning a giant summon to burst themselves out.
Also swamp of the Underworld is a ninjutsu therefore it can be absorbed by the chakra absorbing Path.

Just Saying...

 

[Oronagato]

Deva path EASILY. One CT, or one Chou Shinra Tensei=Bye bye Itachi. How does Itachi win, I wonder? HE DOESN'T, simple as that.

 

[Kakashi Fang]

so when sasuke put danzo in tsukiyomi i think he moved to danzo while he was in it not to sure thoe.

I'm not sure either, go find a link lol and let's find out together.

 

[Blaze Release]

Kishis fault then huh xd I never said Genjutsu doesnt work on the dead in fact my whole argument is based on that it does.Everything else i semi agree on.

Edited: i think pain would win purely because of CT if yasaka is enough to destroy it at its core then i think Itachi could overcome seeing as he has no preta or any other paths...abilty to fly and Banso tenin would be very difficult for him though

Just because a ninja hasnt used a technique when its obvious that they shouldve because it would help them greatly doesnt mean that their opponent is immune because as i said jiraiya had great counters that he didnt use, or should i say that kishi didnt let him use.

If deva starts with ct, then although itachi knows the weakness of ct, he hasnt shown a technique to destroy it by himself. Whether he can spam yasaka's magata (he spammed 4 against kabuto), like how sasuke can spams susano arrow then maybe that would be enough to destroy a forming ct im not sure. If deva doesnt use it and goes into battle, i believe itachi would beat him before he can use ct.

Shinra tensei can repel amaterasu, but you see the paths do not have a fast enough reaction time. Secondly it takes 5 seconds before it can use shinra tensei again. 5 seconds is too big of a gap for Amaterasu not to land. Also in susano v1, the user cannot be pulled out because it follows the user, therefore even if nagato was to use banshou tennin it will pull itachi along with his v1 susano which will be around him. V1 susano also has its physicall prowess, able to knock a tree down and break its way through kabuto's hideout. A punch from it will put deva's lights out

 

[kotoamatsukami]

Link me pics of Deva path speed

dont have any pics just taking wat i seen from the show but if we talking manga pein was never really shown running cuz he does not need to so at the same time u cant say he cant out run it.....but seeing how garra block it with his sand like it was nonthing im guessing pein can out run it....itachi wont spam that move anyway if he knos wats good 4 him i dont the flames will hurt him bad in 5sec anyway that if that body feels pain.

 

[Blaze Release]

If the Paths would have been inside the toad mouth they could have gotten out easily via Animal Path summoning a giant summon to burst themselves out.
Also swamp of the Underworld is a ninjutsu therefore it can be absorbed by the chakra absorbing Path.

Just Saying...

It was animal realm only at first and he doesnt have the ability to absorb. If jiraiya had used the swamp it wouldve done him good. To counter any animal summoned and with that would make life easier. Its after he got in sm did nagato summon human and prepha path.

 

[Better]

it depends who gets off an attack first, Chibaku Tensei or Tsukyuomi

if deva looks down and then uses shinra tensei and then does CT he'll win

if he looks in itachi eyes he's finished

 

[kotoamatsukami]

I'm not sure either, go find a link lol and let's find out together.

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..right here but i dont kno if danzo got out of it be4 sasuke ran at him.

 

[Kakashi Fang]

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..right here but i dont kno if danzo got out of it be4 sasuke ran at him.

Only the anime would be able to tell, I think it's just Sasukes Shunshin.

 

[true enigma]

Itachi > Nagato/pain case closed.

 

[TheSages456]

which version of itachi is this. is it the sick, coughing up blood alive itachi. if so deva path mid difficulty.
it takes itachi 4 panels to fire amaterasu and devas 5 second recharge takes about 2-3 panels. so itachi rapid firing amaterasu is a poor argument. susano gets chibaku tenseied. tsukiyomi my ass.

 

[Ambriel]

dont have any pics just taking wat i seen from the show but if we talking manga pein was never really shown running cuz he does not need to so at the same time u cant say he cant out run it.....but seeing how garra block it with his sand like it was nonthing im guessing pein can out run it....itachi wont spam that move anyway if he knos wats good 4 him i dont the flames will hurt him bad in 5sec anyway that if that body feels pain.

Deva path cant dodge Amaterasu

 

[kotoamatsukami]

Deva path cant dodge Amaterasu

u dont kno that...like i said probly wont hurt him to much anyway. an plus he can sence chakara he knos when itachi is about to use it just like in the manga he was like wat is this pressure...sence he knos how it feels be4 itachi uses the move he will kno wat to do when itachi is about to activate it a second time.