Itachi vs deva path

Who wins

  • Deva path

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  • Itachi

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I find it funny how everyone is saying low difficulty for itachi when 6 tailed naruto couldn't beat deva path with ease. So basically you all are saying itachi could own 6-7 tail naruto. True fanboys I tell you.
All you've said makes no sense. Different abilities decide fights.
Secondly oro was able to keep up with 4 tails naruto, yet itachi beat him with genjutsu. So whats your point again
 

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Deva Path wins!

Itachis Genjutsu cannot hurt a reanimated body physically or Mentally so Deva still wins.

Ofcourse Itachi can trap Deva in a Genjutsu but the result will be just like Kakashis Raiton clone, Deva would just sit there and endure whatever Itachis genjutsu throws at him unflinchingly until it's over and they can continue fighting.
But the Genjutsu can still paralyze him. As all smart people know, Genjutsus are Itachis basic ability which he uses already in the beginning of the battle. He can paralyze the body and crush him with Susanoo :).
 
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Paths clearly arent immune to genjustu. If they were ma and pa's wouldnt work.
Bad argument, Itachi's genjutsu revolves around eye sight, dojutsu, and Ma + Pa's was sound genjutsu. Completely different. We don't know whether Dojutsu Genjutsu will work on the Rinnegan, as it is the superior Dojutsu, but, for your sanity, let's say it will work.

Itachi's genjutsu may be able to control his senses, but, they can still move in the real world, as seen when Itachi put Naruto in a genjutsu and he ran and Rasnegan'd thin air, as well as this, all Deva needs to do to cast Shinra Tensei is, some what widen his eyes, as seen vs Kakashi, and his genjutsu could not stop him doing this.

If he get's hit with Tsukuyomi, he will take considerable toll but as his life force is Nagato's, and Nagato is an Uzumaki, his life force is strong, so the effects of Tsuku will not be as drastic as with other people, this is not me saying it won't effect him, but he may tank it a lot better than others could.

Saying this he should still be able to Shinra tensei whilst in the genjutsu.

Despite all of this, Nagato knows Itachi is a master of genjutsu and will not allow himself to be put under as easily as you suggest.
 

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Amaterasu is faster since all Itachi has to do is to look at the flying up sphere to hit it with his Amaterasu.

And no, that's incorrect. Take out Itachis chitchat with Naruto and Bee, where Chibaku Tensei managed to grow on a respectable size and a TBB is not needed. The Magatama of Madaras Susanoo managed to knock through Gaaras and Oonokis perfect defense, althrough sand by itself is able to dampen blows very well. Itachi can use this Magatamas as well against Chibaku Tensei in its initial stage.


@sage kyubi naruto, you are no worth talking about :D. But anyways, thanks for this pic :D.

Here's a reasonable idea how Itachi can stop Chibaku Tensei. Better than saying thoughtless, Itachi just gonna be crushed by Chibaku Tensei, you know.
 

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Bad argument, ...........(and so on)
Flawed. You can cast an illusion on the paths, this is fact. No matter whether it's a visual or sound Genjutsu, it's an illusion were the paths have been caught. Itachi can cast an illusion with his eye, with a single finger or through his crows (look at the chapter where Itachi met Naruto and has given him the crow).
 

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Deva Path wins!

Itachis Genjutsu cannot hurt a reanimated body physically or Mentally so Deva still wins.

Ofcourse Itachi can trap Deva in a Genjutsu but the result will be just like Kakashis Raiton clone, Deva would just sit there and endure whatever Itachis genjutsu throws at him unflinchingly until it's over and they can continue fighting.
thats right then y did j-man win from genjutsu then
 

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Amaterasu is faster since all Itachi has to do is to look at the flying up sphere to hit it with his Amaterasu.

And no, that's incorrect. Take out Itachis chitchat with Naruto and Bee, where Chibaku Tensei managed to grow on a respectable size and a TBB is not needed. The Magatama of Madaras Susanoo managed to knock through Gaaras and Oonokis perfect defense, althrough sand by itself is able to dampen blows very well. Itachi can use this Magatamas as well against Chibaku Tensei in its initial stage.
I'm not talking about Amaterasu not reaching it in time, I'm talking about it not burning it fast enough.

And do you honestly think he'll just stand there and let him fire "20 Magatama's" off at the orb?

Of course he wouldn't

Flawed. You can cast an illusion on the paths, this is fact. No matter whether it's a visual or sound Genjutsu, it's an illusion were the paths have been caught. Itachi can cast an illusion with his eye, with a single finger or through his crows (look at the chapter where Itachi met Naruto and has given him the crow).
You can't assume that, Rinnegan is the superior dojutsu, and we can't assume because sound genjutsu got him, visual genjutsu will also, and if you read the whole post I did say some stuff even if he did get caught in one :eek:
 
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If it's only Deva Path, it obviously won't have the coordinating methods and team based attacks with the other paths. It's the most troublesome path if Itachi were to fight with it outside of genjutsu.

It took the combined efforts of Naruto, Bee, and Itachi to destroy Nagato's CT. However, Nagato's paths on himself or on a whole other level than when he used the paths. It might be possible for Itachi to destroy the core though he might have to do it before any rubble or other things surround the sphere which would make it alot harder for Itachi's attacks to get to the core.

Deva Path is not immune to genjutsu. Though if the paths aren't able to feel the pain, I don't see how it would prove to be useful. Ma and Pa's caught them in genjutsu while Jaraiya proceeded to kill them. Itachi is the one casting the genjutsu so I don't see him moving around while he's concentrating on Deva Path.

It's still possible that there are other forms of genjutsu which would involve paralizing opponents. I'm not sure whether the targets are paralized through feeling the technique taking a hold of them or not. Just like feeling things through genjutsu could have long lasting effects just like Kakashi after being caught in Tsukyomi. If the target doesn't feel it, how would it affect him?

Having said this, I still think that Itachi would win. Using even the weakest form of genjutsu at the right time like Sasuke did could give him an advantage. Not by hurting Deva Path but by tricking him. Having Deva Path think that Itachi is infront of him attacking him which he might wind up using shinra tensei when in reality Itachi was at a distance behind him throwing a Magatama at him while the 5 second interval is in place.
 

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Bad argument, Itachi's genjutsu revolves around eye sight, dojutsu, and Ma + Pa's was sound genjutsu. Completely different. We don't know whether Dojutsu Genjutsu will work on the Rinnegan, as it is the superior Dojutsu, but, for your sanity, let's say it will work.

Itachi's genjutsu may be able to control his senses, but, they can still move in the real world, as seen when Itachi put Naruto in a genjutsu and he ran and Rasnegan'd thin air, as well as this, all Deva needs to do to cast Shinra Tensei is, some what widen his eyes, as seen vs Kakashi, and his genjutsu could not stop him doing this.

If he get's hit with Tsukuyomi, he will take considerable toll but as his life force is Nagato's, and Nagato is an Uzumaki, his life force is strong, so the effects of Tsuku will not be as drastic as with other people, this is not me saying it won't effect him, but he may tank it a lot better than others could.

Saying this he should still be able to Shinra tensei whilst in the genjutsu.

Despite all of this, Nagato knows Itachi is a master of genjutsu and will not allow himself to be put under as easily as you suggest.
This^
If Orochimaru could still move whilst in Itachis Paralysis Genjutsu than I'm sure a chakra controlled drone should be able to do a back flip and hit Itachi with Shinra Tensei simultaneously.
 

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yet none of us have created a fake interview for itachi like the one you fabricated for minato


also your using A>B>C logic which in its self is fail.
also the 6 tail naruto is a mindless drone.
aslo did you forget the mangekyou sharingan has the abilty to controll the ninetails.

prety much everything you say is irrelevent
You got proof that I created that interview? How bout you show the base you prick :flaw::flaw::flaw::flaw::flaw::flaw::flaw::flaw:
 

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I'm not talking about Amaterasu not reaching it in time, I'm talking about it not burning it fast enough.

And do you honestly think he'll just stand there and let him fire "20 Magatama's" off at the orb?

Of course he wouldn't
What Deva will do while using a big amount of chakra for Chibaku Tensei? What is he able to do beside Shinra Tensei and Bansho Tenin? If he's going to use Chibaku Tensei, he'll be concentratet fully on it. Itachi can use his Magatamas also on Pain. The first 5 will be repelled by Shinra Tensei, the next will hit him due to his interval. Or he can use his Magatamas first and during Devas interval his Amaterasu, to burn Devas eyes out. Also he can cast illusions. Do you seriously believe, Deva by himself could beat Itachi?
 
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You got proof that I created that interview? How bout you show the base you prick :flaw::flaw::flaw::flaw::flaw::flaw::flaw::flaw:
Don't get aggressive, it'll only result in a caution

@Kakashi

I didn't mean move freely, I meant move his eyes to cast Shinra tensei, which is how he cast it vs Kakashi


What Deva will do while using a big amount of chakra for Chibaku Tensei? What is he able to do beside Shinra Tensei and Chibaku Tensei? If he's going to use Chibaku Tensei, he'll be concentratet fully on it. Itachi can use his Magatamas also on Pain. The first 5 will be repelled by Shinra Tensei, the next will hit him due to his interval. Or he can use his Magatamas first and during Devas interval his Amaterasu, to burn Devas eyes out. Also he can cast illusions. Do you seriously believe, Deva by himself could beat Itachi?
He only has to concentrate fully on Chibaku for a few (if that) seconds, it's a very fast jutsu.

Also, if he decides to do a huge Shinra tensei, what will Itachi do then, even if Susano'o stands it it'll go tumbling, and maybe even give him enough time to cast Chibaku tensei, in which Itachi couldn't counter as he was recovering from the Shinra
 
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You can't assume that, Rinnegan is the superior dojutsu, and we can't assume because sound genjutsu got him, visual genjutsu will also, and if you read the whole post I did say some stuff even if he did get caught in one :eek:
It's not a matter of superior eyes but of the existing ability. The Sharingan has clearly the ability to see through Genjutsus and other moves, the Rinnegan does not. Or is the Rinnegan able to copy techniques because it is the superior eye? Secondly, it does not matter which kind of illusion is cast, it's still an illusion the Sharingan can see through.
 
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It's not a matter of superior eyes but of the existing ability. The Sharingan has clearly the ability to see through Genjutsus and other moves, the Rinnegan does not. Or is the Rinnegan able to copy techniques because it is the superior eye? Secondly, it does not matter which kind of illusion is cast, it's still an illusion the Sharingan can see through.
Did I ever discredit sharingans ability to see through genjutsu? If I did excuse me, didn't mean too.

What I'm saying is we have no evidence that visual genjutsu will work, sound based genjutsu is a whole different way of "trapping" them, so if that works we can't automatically assume the other will work as well, and again I've gone past this and said for your sanity that Itachi's genjutsu would work if he cast it
 

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Bad argument, Itachi's genjutsu revolves around eye sight, dojutsu, and Ma + Pa's was sound genjutsu. Completely different. We don't know whether Dojutsu Genjutsu will work on the Rinnegan, as it is the superior Dojutsu, but, for your sanity, let's say it will work.
True majority of genjutsu itachi has shown us is doujutsu genjutsu, but you see he has shwon us the ability to use it without the sharigan;
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You then claim because the rennigan is the superior of the two eyes, sharigan genjutsu wouldnt work on him?. What madness is this. The ems is superior than the ms, and yet itachi was confident that ka an ms genjutsu would work on sasuke would by that time wouldve taken itachi's eyes and gained the ems. Secondly what you are basically saying is that any ms technique technique, not just genjutsu wouldnt work on a rennigan user, because they have superior eyes, but you see we already saw that maaterasu greatly damaged nagato. Clearly having the superior eyes, means nothing.

Itachi's genjutsu may be able to control his senses, but, they can still move in the real world, as seen when Itachi put Naruto in a genjutsu and he ran and Rasnegan'd thin air, as well as this, all Deva needs to do to cast Shinra Tensei is, some what widen his eyes, as seen vs Kakashi, and his genjutsu could not stop him doing this.
First of all, what you speak of when you said naruto run towards itachi with a rasengan is false. That was a genjutsu. The moment itachi pointed his finger naruto was caught. Its in this illusion that he thought he used rasengan;
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Naruto in the real world hasnt moved an inch from chiyo and sakura'
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If he get's hit with Tsukuyomi, he will take considerable toll but as his life force is Nagato's, and Nagato is an Uzumaki, his life force is strong, so the effects of Tsuku will not be as drastic as with other people, this is not me saying it won't effect him, but he may tank it a lot better than others could.

Saying this he should still be able to Shinra tensei whilst in the genjutsu.

Despite all of this, Nagato knows Itachi is a master of genjutsu and will not allow himself to be put under as easily as you suggest.
Tsukuyomi is more of a potent paralysis genjutu no different to the frog's genjutu which is also a paralysis genjutsu that worked on 3 paths. Majority of people know that itachi is a genjutsu user, but majority also think that his genjutsu are only doujutsu based and that is what will catch him off guard.

There i also the 5 second gap which is too big of a gap for amaterasu not to land
 

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@Blaze, didn't Orochimaru squirm when in Itachi's genjutsu? If he did the Deva could move his eyes, and also, like I said maybe 2/3 times, I'm already going with if Itachi can cast it it would work [genjutsu]
 
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