Kisame vs EMS Madara (argument included)

[FizzyDrink]

Kisame would definitely have a chance against EMS Madara, he might even have an edge. A huge amount of his techniques are based on his abilities to absorb chakra (the giant shark bullet thing, samehada, and others) which would be great counters to all of Madara's ninjutsu. He knows Itachi, so he understands the workings of Sharingan genjutsu, so he would definitely know to avoid them. And his water techniques are great counters to Madara's fire techinques. So yes, he has a great chance of winning against EMS Madara. Now, against Rinnegan Madara and Edo Madara (who also has Rinnegan + Mokuton), he would not win most likely, because one of the Paths of the Rinnegan is chakra absorbsion, so that would counter Kisame's. Plus, in the case of Edo Madara, his Mokuton would counter Kisame's water techniques.

This is my opinion. It depends on which version he's fighting against, but against EMS, he could very well win. I actually say, as far as we have seen, Kisame would win the majority of times.

 

[Nikes]

Heck no.

1st dont compare itachi's "STRONGEST" Fireball technique to Madara's fire tech. Secondly. EMS can easily place Kisame in genjutsu. also. Why would kisame work for someone weaker than himself? with his mentality, he would have tried to kill Madara already. Susanoo cancelled out with ONE shark bullet?. you say u arent a kisame fanboy..wow.

When more is revealed about Madara's powers...imma come back to this thread and see what you have for an argument. Afterall if MS was the shit, then EMS is nothing to take lightly.

Damn girl you mad.

Susanoo is made up of chakra shark bullet absorbs chakra so yes.

I guess some people just don't have the capability to understand anything.

 

[Cpt Long Schlong]

Damn girl you mad.

Susanoo is made up of chakra shark bullet absorbs chakra so yes.

I guess some people just don't have the capability to understand anything.

This threads still alive? Pathetic.

Anyway, how does he counter Meteors? They aren't made of chakra.

And that girl meant one shark bullet cannot abosorb all of Susano'o, don't insult her when you don't even understand 50% of the counter arguments laid out in this thread.

 

[Nikes]

This threads still alive? Pathetic.

Anyway, how does he counter Meteors? They aren't made of chakra.

And that girl meant one shark bullet cannot abosorb all of Susano'o, don't insult her when you don't even understand 50% of the counter arguments laid out in this thread.

EMS Madara doesn't have meteors smart one.

Shakr bullet grows stronger while it absorbs, don't act like your smart cause that comment just showed how dumb some people on this site can be.

Read it to yourself.

 

[Cpt Long Schlong]

EMS Madara doesn't have meteors smart one.

Shakr bullet grows stronger while it absorbs, don't act like your smart cause that comment just showed how dumb some people on this site can be.

Read it to yourself.

My mistake, wiki said it did.

 

[Nikes]

My mistake, wiki said it did.

Wiki isn't right, (most of the time)

But the fact that Madara had rinnegan active when he got the meteor means it would be Rinnegan tech boosted with susanoo to get a meteor of that size.

 

[Raito]

Isn't it already clear that even Itachi is superior to Kisame? Madara takes this with low difficult imo, Kisame can't handle such a great Ninja, he was a legend, his name itself means power.

 

[Nikes]

Isn't it already clear that even Itachi is superior to Kisame? Madara takes this with low difficult imo, Kisame can't handle such a great Ninja, he was a legend, his name itself means power.

There are fanboys

and

then

Hypeboys.

Choose which one you like?

 

[Wolfang714]

WTF!? This thread was long gone who the hell brought it back! I'm leaving

 

[Nikes]

WTF!? This thread was long gone who the hell brought it back! I'm leaving

-__-

so you want to comment and say your leaving..

If you wanted attention.. there you got it?

 

[Raito]

There are fanboys

and

then

Hypeboys.

Choose which one you like?

This has nothing to do with fanboy, Madara is just way to strong for someone like Kisame. You lack some common sense when saying Kisame could even stand a chance against a man who was on pair with Hashirama Senju. Who is Kisame that he can stand before Madara? We know how powerful the Mangekyou already is and the eternal Mangekyou is in this comparison according to Itachi "true" power. Let's be honest, what can Kisame do agaist Amaterasu or Tsukuyomi? One eye contact will leave him mental destroyed, one glance will hit him with an indelible flame which is associated with hellish pain. If Susanoo uses his Magatama, he'll crush him too. Itachi is stronger than Kisame, even more so Madara. Just stop being a fool.

 

[LolaxXx]

Kisame wouldnt work for someone weaker than himself.
Also...your like, "Kisame absorb this/that." Why dont you just say he's the strongest character in the entire series then?

EMS will place him in genjutsu. Done. If not. Summon the damn fox on kisame. Kisame VS kurama and EMS Madara..Kisame will lose badly.

of course..you will say otherwise. something like..He'll absorb. lmao

 

[Nikes]

Kisame wouldnt work for someone weaker than himself.
Also...your like, "Kisame absorb this/that." Why dont you just say he's the strongest character in the entire series then?

EMS will place him in genjutsu. Done. If not. Summon the damn fox on kisame. Kisame VS kurama and EMS Madara..Kisame will lose badly.

of course..you will say otherwise. something like..He'll absorb. lmao

Because he isn't the strongest.

Once again people are showing their intelligence.

Yeah he would lose.. POSSIBLY.

Kisame is a great match up for any strong character using chakra.

 

[Raito]

Because he isn't the strongest.

Once again people are showing their intelligence.

Yeah he would lose.. POSSIBLY.

Kisame is a great match up for any strong character using chakra.

But not against someone who has mastered the Sharingan, so can copy and see through techniques, cast powerful Genjutsus and use the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan. If Kisame would be able to handle even Uchiha Madara, this would be just ridiculous. Not for nothing Madara was considered an invincible and immortal Ninja who was on pair with Hashirama Senju. And you keep saying Kisame would be a challenge for him. I'm not a fanboy, I see it objectively and imo Kisame doesn't stand a chance against him.

 

[MrLukyso]

Are you kidding me right now ? Okay I will get my arguments.. Bicouse this thread is total nonsense..

1. Madara Uchiha and Hashirama Senju are two strongest shinobies of all time.
2. Madara Uchiha has Eternal Mangenkyo sharingan which includes amaterasu, susanoo and other abilities that mangekyo gives.
3. Madara is extremely fast.
4. Madara has the biggest experience as shinobi which would give hime adventage.
5. Madara is the strongest UCHIHA of all times ( I'm pretty sure it was told in manga plenty of times ).
6. Everyone says that Madara is the worst nightmare, it was said that even the name "madara" is great power..
7. Also Madara owns 5 Kages alone without even trying to kill them, he's just toying.
8. He could summon Tailed beasts ( If we're speaking about the time Madara fought Hashirama ( When he had only EMS ). And ofcourse it would pwn Kisame for good.
9. Madara can use not one I bet but two or three elements, not only fire ofcourse, otherwise he wouldn't be 1 of 2 best.
10. And Finally Kissame < Itachi, Madara > 5Kages, Madara > ALL uchihas.

 

[MrLukyso]

I do say good job.

Tobi knows more than Sasuke does though, and Tobi said it's all luck.

Are you freaking kidding me right now dude agaaain?? Tobi doesnt even have EMS and he doesnt even know what it is to get it.. Anyway Sasuke has it and he knows ALOT BETTER than tobi what you need to awaken susanoo, also tobi is a jerk, he's not Madara Uchiha. And also you think madara couldnt smash out samehada out of kisames hand? Then he would cast some genjutsu and rape kisame apart.. But.. You say sharks could bring Madara down? you are wrong again, remember.. Amaterasu burns the target till the end, and since it can burn in water, Amaterasu > 100000000 sharks.

 

[MrLukyso]

All right here you go some Manga shit..
And did I mentioned Madara has Earth and Water release??
Madara's insane speed.

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Look how much water users tried to block madaras weakest fire attack? like 20~

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Madara's susanoo is the most powerfull one we have ever seen, also kisame couldn't absorbe susanoo, specially not as powerfull as madaras.. We could say that Madaras susanoo can cast jutsu.. ) If you remember it was shown.

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And some stuff that says who madara is

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[bender]

didnt itachi give sasuke the amaterasu to try and fend off tobi if they ever looked each other in the eyes? so it didnt excatly come wit his ms...jus wanted to throw that out there

 

[LolaxXx]

Okay. I'll name some notable things each character has.

Kisame
Massive Chakra reserves that are tailed beast levels. (same as raikage)
Samehada (can absorb alot of chakra..but can still be harmed/overwhelmed)
Chakra absorbtion by touching
Huge and powerful water attacks.
Giant Shark Bomb
Shark summonings
Fusion with Samehada.

Madara
Sharingan master
Kyuubi summon
Speed
Giant battlefan
Large and powerful fireball techniques
Susanoo
Battle experience
EMS techniques that have yet to be revealed.

Kisame without samehada will be taken out easily by Madara.
With Samehada. Kisame MIGHT prove to take more than a few minutes to deal with. But cast a genjutsu with EMS. Kisame is done. Push comes to shove..Summon the Nine tails. Him alone can kill Kisame. OR if not damage him badly. But Kisame taking on a full 9tails by himself and winning..YEA..right. And if Madara's base sharingan can take over a bijuu it can easily get Kisame as well.

 

[Nikes]

Okay. I'll name some notable things each character has.

Kisame
Massive Chakra reserves that are tailed beast levels. (same as raikage)
Samehada (can absorb alot of chakra..but can still be harmed/overwhelmed)
Chakra absorbtion by touching
Huge and powerful water attacks.
Giant Shark Bomb
Shark summonings
Fusion with Samehada.

Madara
Sharingan master
Kyuubi summon
Speed
Giant battlefan
Large and powerful fireball techniques
Susanoo
Battle experience
EMS techniques that have yet to be revealed.

Kisame without samehada will be taken out easily by Madara.
With Samehada. Kisame MIGHT prove to take more than a few minutes to deal with. But cast a genjutsu with EMS. Kisame is done. Push comes to shove..Summon the Nine tails. Him alone can kill Kisame. OR if not damage him badly. But Kisame taking on a full 9tails by himself and winning..YEA..right. And if Madara's base sharingan can take over a bijuu it can easily get Kisame as well.

Fangirl..

Madara automatically doesn't have 9 tails. -__-

It's obvious that you don't understand how Kisames abilities counter every last one of Madaras.