Nagato Uzumaki vs Naruto Uzumaki(Read)

Nagato Uzumaki vs Naruto Uzumaki

  • Nagato-The man who exists beyond life and death

    Votes: 18 45.0%
  • Naruto-The child of prophecy and Tamer of the Kyubbi

    Votes: 20 50.0%
  • Draw

    Votes: 2 5.0%

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yea and guess what naruto has summons as well if they occupy or just attack nagatos summons his shared vision is greatly affected and also a clone is all needed to take out most of those summons and naruto has 10 km level clones making it simple and on top of it he can create sm clones who can also beat summons


And shinra tensei doesnt work on naruto's Kuruma please and naruto as shown before stays there even his own clones and such can be there. Naruto was dumb lol yes very obviously but that is before not after having info that pain's abilities is nagato's



kuruma can handle shinra tensei seeing how it easily deflected 5 tbbs not to mention in the past a 6 tails one dfelected pain's attack and kuruma is even used as shield by naruto and his clones so no they wont just pop

You are mixing things up. You said clones would distract him. Shinra Tensei will kill Naruto's clones unless they are inside Naruto's BM cloak. Now you are saying Shinra Tensei would do nothing to Naruto because of BM? What does that have to do with the clones being killed if they are trying to create openings to attack Nagato? Naruto has nothing that can stop Nagato except Nagato turning into stone from sucking up too much sage chakra. Nagato can pull and move gravity and he can suck up chakra within its barrier. That right there will defeat Naruto. He has to depend on taijutsu from sage mode if he wants to win and it won't happen because of Deva Path. Think about it for a second, how did Naruto get caught in the first place in his KM? Nagato hid his summons using the ability of his chameleon summon and caught Naruto.
 
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You are mixing things up. You said clones would distract him. Shinra Tensei will kill Naruto's clones unless they are inside Naruto's BM cloak. Now you are saying Shinra Tensei would do nothing to Naruto because of BM? What does that have to do with the clones being killed if they are trying to create openings to attack Nagato? Naruto has nothing that can stop Nagato except Nagato turning into stone from sucking up too much sage chakra. Nagato can pull and move gravity and he can suck up chakra within its barrier. That right there will defeat Naruto. He has to depend on taijutsu from sage mode if he wants to win and it won't happen because of Deva Path. Think about it for a second, how did Naruto get caught in the first place in his KM? Nagato hid his summons using the ability of his chameleon summon and caught Naruto.
You know how fast clones are right and especially naruto's BM mode can get someone extremely fast. Did u forget that naruto saved kakashi and guy in a fraction of a second from 5 tbb if there is a large scale shinra tensei do you think he would just allow for them to get destroyed no freaking way



look how fast he got guy and kakashi with no damage at all he can do the same for clones especially if nagato is using a chou shinra tensei(big one). And if you are talking about a very small scaled one it would get maybe one clone but not all clones cause they dont stay right next to each other

look here


a medium sized shinra tensei was dodged by km naruto with relative ease, he had injury or anything whatsoever but regardless kuruma can easily get clones with ease.


also one shinra tensei and nagato is open for 5 seconds to attack perfect opportunity to strike especially considering how fast naruto is.


did u forget bansho tenin has no effect on naruto lol



so no he is not jus gonna pull him in and suck him up


And all anruto can do to attack him is make him suck sage chakra did u forget about frog katas, its the perfect counter for nagato's preta path and he just needs a sm clone which can just stay in kuruma which means there is no problem with speed and defense and it just needs an opening to attack

Like here there is an sm clone inside kuruma


yea he is gonna fall for the that trick twice similar to how nagato wont fall for sucking in sm mode chakra twice its never gonna happen. And btw sm mode can detect danger faster and greater in sm so he could detect it, and guess what if he had one more clone there would that even been a problem, no another one would have just killed the chameleon and freed him but no the other 11 km clones were out in different battlefields so that is definitely not going to happen again lol. And also the original naruto would be also protected by kuruma how the hell is he gonna catch him with him there , you think its strong enough to also capture kuruma lol be serious.

there is so many ways that you are wrong there you failed to see the major disadvantage naruto was in back then and not only that you forgot about his new power, the chameleon is in now way a problem. sure it might get a clone but obviously another can just easily free him

where he mentions that about sm
 
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You know how fast clones are right and especially naruto's BM mode can get someone extremely fast. Did u forget that naruto saved kakashi and guy in a fraction of a second from 5 tbb if there is a large scale shinra tensei do you think he would just allow for them to get destroyed no freaking way



look how fast he got guy and kakashi with no damage at all he can do the same for clones especially if nagato is using a chou shinra tensei(big one). And if you are talking about a very small scaled one it would get maybe one clone but not all clones cause they dont stay right next to each other
Then what would be the point of him using clones if hes going to have to keep saving them?



a medium sized shinra tensei was dodged by km naruto with relative ease, he had injury or anything whatsoever but regardless kuruma can easily get clones with ease.
Where is your proof that he dodged it? They all were knocked back. Until Kishi says otherwise.

also one shinra tensei and nagato is open for 5 seconds to attack perfect opportunity to strike especially considering how fast naruto is.
This only applies to Deva Path Pain for the simple fact he was far away from Nagato and couldn't summon up enough chakra. This is why the Deva Path had to be at a certain distance close enough to Nagato to use Chibaku Tensei.


did u forget bansho tenin has no effect on naruto lol



so no he is not jus gonna pull him in and suck him up
Sorry but it does. You forget that Naruto's cloak is nothing but chakra. If Nagato is able to pull Naruto close enough he can rip the chakra cloak from his body using Preta Path.

And all anruto can do to attack him is make him suck sage chakra did u forget about frog katas, its the perfect counter for nagato's preta path and he just needs a sm clone which can just stay in kuruma which means there is no problem with speed and defense and it just needs an opening to attack

Like here there is an sm clone inside kuruma
I fail to see your point? Naruto's BM is far bigger then Nagato so what exactly can Naruto do with a SM clone that's all the way up there close to the real Naruto?

yea he is gonna fall for the that trick twice similar to how nagato wont fall for sucking in sm mode chakra twice its never gonna happen. And btw sm mode can detect danger faster and greater in sm so he could detect it, and guess what if he had one more clone there would that even been a problem, no another one would have just killed the chameleon and freed him but no the other 11 km clones were out in different battlefields so that is definitely not going to happen again lol. And also the original naruto would be also protected by kuruma how the hell is he gonna catch him with him there , you think its strong enough to also capture kuruma lol be serious.

there is so many ways that you are wrong there you failed to see the major disadvantage naruto was in back then and not only that you forgot about his new power, the chameleon is in now way a problem. sure it might get a clone but obviously another can just easily free him

where he mentions that about sm
And now you start to theory craft into your own little fantasy. You sit here and neglect all of Nagato's powers and focus on only two powers that would give Naruto major trouble. How can Naruto deal with the dog summon? He can't. Nothing he has can kill it. Nothing he has can deal with Preta Path.
 
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Then what would be the point of him using clones if hes going to have to keep saving them?


Where is your proof that he dodged it? They all were knocked back. Until Kishi says otherwise.

This only applies to Deva Path Pain for the simple fact he was far away from Nagato and couldn't summon up enough chakra. This is why the Deva Path had to be at a certain distance close enough to Nagato to use Chibaku Tensei.



Sorry but it does. You forget that Naruto's cloak is nothing but chakra. If Nagato is able to pull Naruto close enough he can rip the chakra cloak from his body using Preta Path.


I fail to see your point? Naruto's BM is far bigger then Nagato so what exactly can Naruto do with a SM clone that's all the way up there close to the real Naruto?


And now you start to theory craft into your own little fantasy. You sit here and neglect all of Nagato's powers and focus on only two powers that would give Naruto major trouble. How can Naruto deal with the dog summon? He can't. Nothing he has can kill it. Nothing he has can deal with Preta Path.

he doesnt have to keep saving them did u forget that naruto just needs to attack him during an opening during his after his shinra tensei and only big shinra tensei would he actually have to save them all

naruto was not hurt one bit and from his speed feats from the past he can easily dodge attacks like that, from the looks of it he doesnt even seemed to be pushed back. And like i said his prior speed feats ex. against raikage is more enough to dodge attacks like that, but regardless an attack of that range would only kill one or two clones but regardless like i said kuruma can easily get in the way especially if its a big one

he cant just use deva path back to back that is only your assumption lol if he could do that why didnt he do that against naruto, bee and itachi, he has intervals maybe the interval is somewhat lower but he cant do it back to back.

wtf did u even see the link naruto countered bansho tenin, nagato has to be near him to absorb his chakra which he cant do since bansho tenin wont actually pull him close to nagato lol. First of all he cant pull him so no ur lil idea doesnt work i guess manga proof isnt enough for you lol


what can sm clone do? it can attack him by just jumping out , sm clones are slower unlike regular Km clones but inside kuruma he can easily attack nagato because kuruma makes up for the lack of speed and especially during the interval nagato has. he just has to be close enough naruto to make the attack

similar to here see

where there is clone coming from the kurumas body. he doesnt have to only sit there he can get out and attack if he wants such as during the interval

LOL wtf are u talking about nothing he can do about dog summons please a few toad summons can occupy him for example like gmabunta. the dog was not even a major problem against sm naruto back then. he doesnt even have to kill it but just occupy it and gamabunta can easily do that lol. he doesnt need to kill it necessarily

naruto's summons are no joke they held off pain's summons for a very long time and if u add ma and pa in there they would beat nagato's summons.

Preta path wont work against sm mode's frog katas, here u go a link for u to prove that




all naruto has to use an sm clone(and he is not limited to one either) during an opening and with multiple km clones all faster than nagato and kuruma its bound to happen and add to it nagato has bad mobility it makes it easier for naruto to launch an attack. Even during nagatos interval is a perfect chance for sm clone to strike. Nagato is not winning naruto has advantage ins speed, raw power and numbers.

nagato cant get the original naruto its easier for naruto to attack nagato tho. all attacks can be avoided or destroyed. AND he has to deal with near kage level clones and only one attack is needed to kill him which is a frog kata considering the numbers and distractions present naruto is very likely to win.

And naruto can also easily just send one clone to blind all of nagato's summons and even take the help of his own toads. he can easily perform this feat and this would reduce shared vision meaning he is prone to even ninjutsu techs if it comes from a place where he does not see it similar to here against itachi, naruto and bee

such as here





And also naruto can kill nagato(obviously during a shinra tensei interval) a kunai.
It sounds stupid but anyone can die from a kunai and KM clones sure cant use rasengans against nagato but in a point blank range can hit him from behind and such. And km clones have the speed to pull this off and especially considering nagato being not really fast. but there are other ways obviously but this way can work and ausra wont help due to speed once again. Its a possibility

Naruto wins this battle with difficulty but wins nonetheless.

CT gets beat,
shinra tensie is countered by kuruma

asura path is almost useless and sm clones can one sense danger and dodge it and km clones are too fast for it

human path again nagato has to be close to original naruto and touch him and in no way in hell is he pulling that off considering advantage in speed

animal path- toad summons plus a Km clone can easily deal with it and even reduce shared vision

nakara is not really useful in this battle really

But really naruto has a counter for everything nagato has, and has jutsu(frog katas) to hit him back with, or he can even just blind the animals and severely affect his shared vision and add to the fact nagato has bad mobility, naruto has this battle with difficulty.
 
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But you don't focus on how Naruto will manage to defend against:

- Gedo Mazo
- Gedo Mazo soul Dragon
- Asura Path
- Preta Path
- Naraka Path
- Animal Path
- Human Path
- Chibaku Tensei (FULL POWER)
- Shinra Tensei

Remember, Naruto even noted that since he was using his real body, the strength and speed of his techniques were on a much higher level than when it was Pain.
The Paths will be destroyed in a minute flat. Chibaku Tensei can be blasted out the air, Shinra Tensei isn't even a problem, Gedo Mazo can't do shit too a TBB 5x a regular one.
 

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I thought you would just simply remeber when u saw that image. And even nagato said good dodge meaning yes he did counter it so there goes your idea lol.
Listen i know your a nagato hater but your wrong destroying a rock caused by banso tenin is not dodging bansho tenin fact

Going by your logic KM naruto would of beaten him but guess what he didnt ya know why? because nagato crippled and controlled owned him fact

You underrate Nagato and are obviously are a hater but i doesnt matter because your not kishi stfu and get of my thread xD
 

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Listen i know your a nagato hater but your wrong destroying a rock caused by banso tenin is not dodging bansho tenin fact

Going by your logic KM naruto would of beaten him but guess what he didnt ya know why? because nagato crippled and controlled owned him fact

You underrate Nagato and are obviously are a hater but i doesnt matter because your not kishi stfu and get of my thread xD
And yes i kno ur the biggest fanboy of this base to nagato that u even deny manga proof

Look here

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HE uses bansho tenin right and naruto is initially getting pulled

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Here he uses his chakra arm to latch on to the rock and avoid the jutsu simple even nagato said good dodge lol wtf are u arguing about its plain as day

its pathetic u r arguing against manga proof but hey not really surprised considering you



And another thing did u realize all of naruto's clones were not present all 11 of them as well as his summons, he was in a disadvantaged position, i really cant believe you like to simply just forget about that part.
 
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And yes i kno ur the biggest fanboy of this base to nagato that u even deny manga proof

Look here

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HE uses bansho tenin right and naruto is initially getting pulled

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Here he uses his chakra arm to latch on to the rock and avoid the jutsu simple even nagato said good dodge lol wtf are u arguing about its plain as day
LOL ok so hanging onto a rock stops bansho tenin right are you stupid? Your a failure you underrate Nagato because hes haxxed and coud beat any of your favourite characters thats why everytime i see you on this website regardless who it is you say nagato loses you suk xd

AND YOUR THE WORST FANBOY HERE EVERYONE KNOWS IT stop deflecting
 

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LOL ok so hanging onto a rock stops bansho tenin right are you stupid? Your a failure you underrate Nagato because hes haxxed and coud beat any of your favourite characters thats why everytime i see you on this website regardless who it is you say nagato loses you suk xd

AND YOUR THE WORST FANBOY HERE EVERYONE KNOWS IT stop deflecting
says the guy who denies manga proof lol. all naruto has to is hold on to something with his chakra arm. Even nagato said good dodge but fanboys like u cant be helped and resort to insults with no evidence or proper arguments at all. So typical
 

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says the guy who denies manga proof lol. all naruto has to is hold on to something with his chakra arm. Even nagato said good dodge but fanboys like u cant be helped and resort to insults with no evidence or proper arguments at all. So typical
wtf is wrong with you lol? you keep arguing stupid points Bansho tenin will rip him off whatever hes hanging onto end off simple theres nothing else to say remember when kakashi was hanging onto that rope and bits of rubble were coming towards deva that will happen

you need to stop posting on my thread your posts generally fail the guy who thinks Amateseru is undodgable and Susanoo cant be absorbed.You provide links that dont even prove your point its just so so sad
 
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wtf is wrong with you lol? you keep arguing stupid points Bansho tenin will rip him off whatever hes hanging onto end off simple theres nothing else to say remember when kakashi was hanging onto that rope and bits of rubble were coming towards deva that will happen

you need to stop posting on my thread your postv generally fail the guy who thinks Amateseru is undodgable and Susanoo cant be absorbed.You provide links that dont even prove your point its just so so sad
then why the hell did he dodge it lol, he can just hold onto a tree or the ground, rock or some other object regardless didnt u see there he latched onto the rock and he got out of bansho tenin lol why did the tech end and nagato say good dodge lol. You are so in denial. You have no proof or proper argument and just insults. If bansho tenin is never able to be countered why did it not work on Naruto and why would even nagato tell him it was a good dodge It was countered get that through your head

MAnga>your opinion

And dont put words in my mouth i never said susssano was unabsorbable or that amaterasu cannot be dodged when ppl like raikage clearly did.

dont stray from the topic it just shows how you are losing the argument and trying to make irrelevant things into the discussion.
 
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then why the hell did he dodge it lol, he can just hold onto a tree or the ground, rock or some other object regardless didnt u see there he latched onto the rock and he got out of bansho tenin lol why did the tech end and nagato say good dodge lol. You are so in denial. You have no proof or proper argument and just insults. If bansho tenin is never able to be countered why did it not work on Naruto and why would even nagato tell him it was a good dodge It was countered get that through your head

MAnga>your opinion

And dont put words in my mouth i never said susssano was unabsorbable or that amaterasu cannot be dodged when ppl like raikage clearly did.

dont stray from the topic it just shows how you are losing the argument and trying to make irrelevant things into the discussion.
1.Dodging a rock flying towards him is not countering Bansho tenin
2.Look at your responses in Nagato v Itachi you said more stuff but i can only remember so much bs
3.Manga>anyone opinion including yours so remember that when you say Yasaka could destroy CT or Itachi>Nagato
4.Your not smart
5.At all
6.Posting links that dont prove your points is failing
7.You say im in denial but you dont admit to saying any of this when you actually did back when you said how can Nagato dodge Totsuka if Nagato try anything Totsuka will seal him
 

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1.Dodging a rock flying towards him is not countering Bansho tenin
2.Look at your responses in Nagato v Itachi you said more stuff but i can only remember so much bs
3.Manga>anyone opinion including yours so remember that when you say Yasaka could destroy CT or Itachi>Nagato
4.Your not smart
5.At all
6.Posting links that dont prove your points is failing
7.You say im in denial but you dont admit to saying any of this when you actually did back when you said how can Nagato dodge Totsuka if Nagato try anything Totsuka will seal him
1. it didnt work and naruto's chakra arms cant be compared to kakashi, naruto chakra arms are ten times more powerful and even kakashi managed to hold off bansho tenin for a while. And naruto can use multiple chakra hands as well its simply not gonna work lol. Naruto stopped the force of bansho tenin simple otherswise he would have been hurt lol as simple as that

and i'll use a source unlike u who just throws things out there with no proof or anything


naruto is far superior in strength to kakashi and even resisted bansho tenin for a while and not mention naruto can use more than one chakra hand


2. NEVER ever mentioned those two things u mentioned but w/e its not like it matters

3. never said yasaka can destroy CT but only said itachi can hit him with totsuka in the process but regardless again irrelevant

4-5. LOL really

6. yea ok bansho tenin is used and doesnt work simple proof from manga

7. Totsuka can seal him whats your point w/e this is completely irrelevant to the topic

I'm done talking to ppl who dont accept manga evidence is pointless.
 
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1. it didnt work and naruto's chakra arms cant be compared to kakashi, naruto chakra arms are ten times more powerful and even kakashi managed to hold off bansho tenin for a while. And naruto can use multiple chakra hands as well its simply not gonna work lol. Naruto stopped the force of bansho tenin simple otherswise he would have been hurt lol as simple as that

and i'll use a source unlike u who just throws things out there with no proof or anything


naruto is far superior in strength to kakashi and even resisted bansho tenin for a while and not mention naruto can use more than one chakra hand


2. NEVER ever mentioned those two things u mentioned but w/e its not like it matters

3. never said yasaka can destroy CT but only said itachi can hit him with totsuka in the process but regardless again irrelevant

4-5. LOL really

6. yea ok bansho tenin is used and doesnt work simple proof from manga

7. Totsuka can seal him whats your point w/e this is completely irrelevant to the topic

I'm done talking to ppl who dont accept manga evidence is pointless.
Wasnt that deva pain that pulled kakashi in, nagato is stronger than his paths plus when Naruto met nagato he was pulled in quick by his Banshō Ten'in
 

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Wasnt that deva pain that pulled kakashi in, nagato is stronger than his paths plus when Naruto met nagato he was pulled in quick by his Banshō Ten'in
but he didnt get hit by the tech, Naruto is physically much stronger than kakashi and when i say a lot i mean it and he can use more than one chakra arm.

Look at this



kakashi doesnt match anything near this level of power and he was partially able to resist it, dont make that comparison. look at the power and look at what yamato says, the comparison between kakashi is not even close
 
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but he didnt get hit by the tech, Naruto is physically much stronger than kakashi and when i say a lot i mean it and he can use more than one chakra arm.

Look at this



kakashi does match anything near this level of power and he was partially able to resist it, dont make that comparison. look at the power and look at what yamato says, the comparison between kakashi is not even close
Naruto didnt get hit cause nagato threw a mini meteor in the middle of them to stop it or else he wouldve rip out his soul, haha everyone knows kakashi isnt on nagato or Naruto lvl
 

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Naruto didnt get hit cause nagato threw a mini meteor in the middle of them to stop it or else he wouldve rip out his soul, haha everyone knows kakashi isnt on nagato or Naruto lvl
yea he used it to stop the force of bansho tenin. otherwise he can just latch onto a rock, tree, ground etc. to hold his ground. kakkashi use a chain to do that and he was able to hold on for a moment and as we have seen naruto is on a whole another level all he has to is hold on to something that is all. In that particular case he used the meteor but it still negated the force of bansho tenin.


kakashi was simply holding onto something naruto can easily do the same except his power is on whole another level as well as the fact that he can use more than one chakra arm to help himself

he is not gonna rip his soul out when he cant pull him towards him fully.
 
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yea he used it to stop the force of bansho tenin. otherwise he can just latch onto a rock, tree, ground etc. to hold his ground. kakkashi use a chain to do that and he was able to hold on for a moment and as we have seen naruto is on a whole another level all he has to is hold on to something that is all. In that particular case he used the meteor but it still negated the force of bansho tenin.

he is not gonna rip his soul out when he cant pull him towards him fully.
Nagato is stronger than deva path an why didnt Naruto stop it when nagato was pullin him in
 

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Nagato is stronger than deva path an why didnt Naruto stop it when nagato was pullin him in
yea so is naruto than kakashi but by a much much larger scale, i know nagato is better but pain(deva) but naruto is much more powerful in strength and as i said kakashi was able to resist it for a while and then could not hold on long enough

And naruto did stop it



nagato even said good dodge all he has to do is hold onto something, basnho tenin here was stopped. it did not continue to keep pulling him in and instead he changed the direction and went to the water, it did not just pull him in throughout lol naruto countered it
 
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