What on Earth is happening?

[frankieblazer]

I dont know why people get mad when new stuff is introduced. There is a lot of stuff we didnt know about in the series that just popped up out of no where. If anything everyone have assumed or predicted that eventually someone else in the show would have sage mode. Why not give it to the 2nd most mysterious guy in the show.

Lol.. We readers can tell if an author is keeping us in suspense for the main kill, and if an author is just making stuff on the way

 

[Uchiha Josephus]

Good point. However Kishi as a writer is not going according to his original plot,(If he ever had one). He's changing the storyline either to suit consumer demands or to extend the series even further than he planned. Thats what we're saying. Every story naturally has loops. He goes back for the loops and attaches strings to them, linking them to the present. He could back to a point in the chuunin exam, and say the barrier created by Oro's thugs during the 3rd Hokage's and Oro's fight was a Dragon Sage mode technique or a copy of it, and he'll provide enough evidence to prove it, and we'll believe it

LOL!!! Yeah I see what you mean

Although that barrier was just a barrier technique. If they had to be in Curse Mode level whatever to do that, then maybe. xd

alright i gotta go - nice conversation! later!

 

[OcularProwess]

Good point. However Kishi as a writer is not going according to his original plot,(If he ever had one). He's changing the storyline either to suit consumer demands or to extend the series even further than he planned. Thats what we're saying. Every story naturally has loops. He goes back for the loops and attaches strings to them, linking them to the present. He could back to a point in the chuunin exam, and say the barrier created by Oro's thugs during the 3rd Hokage's and Oro's fight was a Dragon Sage mode technique or a copy of it, and he'll provide enough evidence to prove it, and we'll believe it

there you go again with the disrespect

 

[frankieblazer]

there you go again with the disrespect

Dude what is your problem? I haven't said one single word of disrespect to Kishi. I appreciate his qualities as a good writer and he has entertained some of us for a very long time now. All i'm saying is, he shouldn't keep pulling stunts like that on us

 

[OcularProwess]

Dude what is your problem? I haven't said one single word of disrespect to Kishi. I appreciate his qualities as a good writer and he has entertained some of us for a very long time now. All i'm saying is, he shouldn't keep pulling stunts like that on us

Kool, all im saying is that you know he's going to keep doing it you should already know something out of whack is going to happen thats how he's been doing since forever just get used to it

 

[frankieblazer]

Kool, all im saying is that you know he's going to keep doing it you should already know something out of whack is going to happen thats how he's been doing since forever just get used to it

Sigh, argument ends here please....

 

[Sasunarufan13]

What's so sudden about it? It's not because you don't see the progress of training for it, that it means that Kishimoto-sensei just pulled something out of thin air. If we knew everything of everyone as soon as they trained for it or received it, the manga would get rather boring in my opinion. Those twists are what makes this manga so interesting.
And Kishimoto-sensei does have a plan. He said it himself that the ending was fixed and he wouldn't change anything about it (that's what I read anyway)

 

[Rune]

It will propably be explained later on

 

[-Jiraiya-]

Chill out man. We cant do anything about it..

 

[Dantee]

Fail thread. I was mentioned Oro was trying to obtain it's power, so it has infact to do with Orochimaru's hidden goals and research.

 

[~Uzumaki~]

I agree, this is horrible and wrong if Kabuto says 'that jutsu makes him invincible' you'd expect it not to be something we've seen before, SM is old news. And he ripped off what made toads unique and gave it to snakes too, its so unoriginal.

 

[MadaraHashirama]

Ok, Kishi isn't a good guy in writing good plots, he just thinks of something quick and just throws it in, if you want explanation you gotta wait like always, it's always some plot twists and then you need to wait next week until you realise it's going on a break so you have to wait 2 weeks to know what the heck is going on actually, it's always been like this. And oh get use to Naruto pwning everything.

 

[Mercury Uzumaki]

I took a four-week break away from manga and anime to let it pile up a bit, I come back and realise Kishi has pulled another one of his ridiculous stunts. What on Earth is a Dragon Sage? No lore, no history preceding it and it just popped out of nowhere. If Kabuto survives this fight and escapes and encounters another Character, the character would be like "Huuuh, Isn't that the legendary dragon sage technique?" and then it becomes a part of the manga. Fail plot

Agreed. The story was good when the war started, but now he's doing to much. The scroll,dragon sage its starting to get a little annoying. Instead of ending the great battles like the kages and Narutos, he keeps trolling and adding new bs thats taking away not only taking to much time but isn't that interesting. He should have finished the old battles and moved on. Also to much talk no jutsu, the story is set up we dont need all this boring conversation. The old fights were epic because he started and finished them. Now we get a chapter here and a chapter there and filles inbetween....I love Naruto but end it already. Make a anime where the characters are grown or growing still, dont keep trolling shippuuden. Im sure now that hes inroduced drahon sage kabuto he going to flip back to Naruto or the kages which takes the excitement away.also wasnt kabuto strong enough with impure ressurection? Now sage mode which has not been introduced in the entire anime????? Come on how Op these chRacters going to get? And im sure sasuke is going to get another power up........Kishi really just dragging the anime out.

 

[natssuu]

Actually it just makes sense that there are more legendary places than Mount Myoboku.

 

[Vin Thora]

Kishi kind of lost the plot (pardon the pun) since the war arc started. He just started handing out powerups like they were gift vouchers or something. And lets be honest, the story is neither going anywhere, or does it make much sense.

Kishi kind of lost all sense of proportionality when he gave out these powerups and just whips out ridiculous things. The SO6P weapons: WTF was that???? The Sage doesnt have 5 fricking hands to wield and use them all LOL.

I understand why hes doing it: to keep the series going on longer (make more money), and to make the fights more epic, and longer. Furthermore, he has already overpowered the good guys, so he must do the same for the bad in order for the fights to be fairer.

Part 1 was a fresh, new concept with interesting characters. This is just a fight fest. The whole war arc is just plain bull****.

 

[Vin Thora]

The story was good when the war started, but now he's doing to much. The scroll,dragon sage its starting to get a little annoying. Instead of ending the great battles like the kages and Narutos, he keeps trolling and adding new bs thats taking away not only taking to much time but isn't that interesting. He should have finished the old battles and moved on. Also to much talk no jutsu, the story is set up we dont need all this boring conversation. The old fights were epic because he started and finished them. Now we get a chapter here and a chapter there and filles inbetween....I love Naruto but end it already. Make a anime where the characters are grown or growing still, dont keep trolling shippuuden. Im sure now that hes inroduced drahon sage kabuto he going to flip back to Naruto or the kages which takes the excitement away.also wasnt kabuto strong enough with impure ressurection? Now sage mode which has not been introduced in the entire anime????? Come on how Op these chRacters going to get? And im sure sasuke is going to get another power up........Kishi really just dragging the anime out.

Pretty much... I think the whole war arc was a complete mistake. naruto is just a fight fest now

 

[OcularProwess]

sigh, argument ends here please....

i bet

 

[Solo]

Now as for the sacred cave that Kabuto found, yes, we don't have much backstory on that yet. But also we never had any backstory on Myobokuzen when it first appeared either!

Patience, my friend. Patience.

IMO..

The summonings gotta go somewhere when you release them, right?

 

[Darkakatsuki]

Good point. However Kishi as a writer is not going according to his original plot,(If he ever had one). He's changing the storyline either to suit consumer demands or to extend the series even further than he planned. Thats what we're saying. Every story naturally has loops. He goes back for the loops and attaches strings to them, linking them to the present. He could back to a point in the chuunin exam, and say the barrier created by Oro's thugs during the 3rd Hokage's and Oro's fight was a Dragon Sage mode technique or a copy of it, and he'll provide enough evidence to prove it, and we'll believe it

Are you an author? I'm asking because I think it takes another author to realize and comprehend this concept. I've written some works myself, though I've never published or even attempted to publish them, but I know exactly what you're talking about, its what authors do actually when they need to advance the plot. Most people don't understand this though, that an author can create a back story out of nowhere from anything that has already happened and simply link it to some new idea they just recently came up with so that there are no plotholes. Or simply cover up a plot hole by creating a backstory.

I agree about the dragon sage thing, it is plain and simply made up, there was np foreshadowing of this, its something that Kishi recently cooked up. Surely we aren't expected to believe that Juugo, Sasuke, Tayuya, Kidomaru, Kimimaro, Jirobo, Sakon, and Ukon were all using nature chakra without even knowing it, that's bull, someone would obviously realise when an external source of chakra was entering their system.

What also doesn't make sense is how Orochimaru was unable to find that cave, shouldn't the great snake sage be in the land of his snake summons? In that case a simple reverse summoning would get him there, why was that so hard to do. Or does kishi simply want an excuse for Oro not to have known sage mode.

Also, in part one the cursed seal was explained completely differently to what Kabuto said, there are so many things about its mechanics that were revealed back then that are contradictory to what Kabuto has said, Kishi really needs to brush up on this one, its not so much that Kabuto has a power up from the snake clan that is the problem, that was pretty much expected, but I think the way he introduced it was very flawed and lame.

 

[undertaker58]

wow you took a four week break ,i just can't spend a whole month without reading naruto .how could you do that ?

i spended tow months without reading naruto or one piece and it was so hard man