[Discussion] After-birth abortion?

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Watch the video before you comment
on the issue.

This discussion does not include whether or not such articles should be published in the first place, so do not discuss that here.
Here's a link to the original article, if someone wants to read it:
Since many oppinions on abortion stem from religious views and guidelines, I can imagine that, at some point, religion will be drawn into this discussion. When/if that happens, I will be most cross with anyone who, in any way, express degrading thoughts towards the religion itself or the person him/herself.
Think before you reply and give valid reasons for your oppinion(s).
 
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"Children are a gift from the LORD; they are a reward from him." psalm 127:3, nlt

We live in a world where people say save the trees or save the puppies and kittes but kill the children.

Iblove what the guy said about in history killing blacks and jews were justified cuz they were deemed "not human". Same excuse to kill fetuses and babies.
 
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Wow. Even after they are born. Are we serious right now? I'm tired of this topic. Abortions should only be granted IMO in special cases.

1. Woman gets pregnant by rapist.
2. Child, if born, will kill woman.
3. If Child is born, child will suffer extreme amounts of pain for the rest of their life.
4. All the girls from 16 and pregnant (Joke....just a joke)......[But seriously some of them should have]

There need be no other reason. Oh you werent ready to have a child? Shouldnt have had *** unprotected, or period for that matter.

The thought of aborting children after they are born is just absurd no matter how you try to spin it.
 

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Clearly once your born you are alive...wtf i mean if sumone is born is has sumthing wrong with them that they will never be mentally older then a 3 year old and there whole life will be pain then i agree those kids she have the right to die but that where it gets tricky allthough they should have the right to die who has the right to make the decision and to me only the person being killed can say if they want to die but the usually if u in position ur better off dead then u cant make that choice it is such a crazy topic that has no right answer

but them saying after ur born ur still not alive is a joke when exactly does u become alive like whats next if you 14 years old ur still technically not alive till u hit 19 that was to most retarded thing ive ever heard
 

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Wow. Even after they are born. Are we serious right now? I'm tired of this topic. Abortions should only be granted IMO in special cases.

1. Woman gets pregnant by rapist.
2. Child, if born, will kill woman.
3. If Child is born, child will suffer extreme amounts of pain for the rest of their life.
4. All the girls from 16 and pregnant (Joke....just a joke)......[But seriously some of them should have]

There need be no other reason. Oh you werent ready to have a child? Shouldnt have had *** unprotected, or period for that matter.

The thought of aborting children after they are born is just absurd no matter how you try to spin it.
I agree. Some people that have abortions more often than not are the ones that are irresponsible and make the mistake of having a child at the wrong time. Only in special cases, if you get pregnant from literally f*cking around then guess what that is a decision you should live with for the rest of your life.


On topic this is not legal. Its not even an abortion after birth its called infanticide aka murdering a baby whoever did it should be put in jail.
 

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I don't think abortion is right, after the birth. If you were raped and got pregnant you could have an abortion before the baby fully formed, but then comes the arguement what makes a person a person, is it from conception? 18 weeks? Birth? That's very tricky...

But in this case the baby would have already been born and waht they are talking about is murder, taking away a person's right to life, even if it wont be the best life for them. It should be up to them to decide how to live or if they want to, who are we to play God and decide who lives and who dies, just because of some disability.

I'm not religious, but my 9 year old cousin was born with a disability, saiying she'd probably never walk, talk and always struggle. But now she always running around, happy and talks great, she's a blessing to us. But if we'd believed in the after birth abortion... then what?

(ends weird rant) lol
 
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I don't think abortion is right, after the birth. If you were raped and got pregnant you could have an abortion before the baby fully formed, but then comes the arguement what makes a person a person, is it from conception? 18 weeks? Birth? That's very tricky...

But in this case the baby would have already been born and waht they are talking about is murder, taking away a person's right to life, even if it wont be the best life for them. It should be up to them to decide how to live or if they want to, who are we to play God and decide who lives and who dies, just because of some disability.

I'm not religious, but my 9 year old cousin was born with a disability, saiying she'd probably never walk, talk and always struggle. But now she always running around, happy and talks great, she's a blessing to us. But if we'd believed in the after birth abortion... then what?

(ends weird rant) lol
*Gives a toast to Pervy's weird rant!
 

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It's matter of science plus common sense. No matter what the condition of the baby is he/she is a person, a part of this human race and has as much rights as we all. If we ignore that fact and start murdering babies, we lose a part as what we as humans are and represent.

Science is able to make things more clear in the matter of an abortion of a young fetus and why it can be allowed. Go past that and it's definitely a murder.
 

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Medically speaking, after birth abortion doesn't exist. Abortion is the end of a pregnancy in which the fetus doesn't survive. It might be involuntary or voluntary. After the fetus is born, its called a baby and its alive and considered a person. Because of this, its, under the law of 98% of the countries i'm sure, considered murder and not abortion.

Its ridiculou to mix both concepts.

Now, what i am not sure is if this is the right topic for this forum and its underaged members.
 

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Medically speaking, after birth abortion doesn't exist. Abortion is the end of a pregnancy in which the fetus doesn't survive. It might be involuntary or voluntary. After the fetus is born, its called a baby and its alive and considered a person. Because of this, its, under the law of 98% of the countries i'm sure, considered murder and not abortion.

Its ridiculou to mix both concepts.

Now, what i am not sure is if this is the right topic for this forum and its underaged members.
This. ^

It's a stupid term being coined for a totally different issue.
 

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Medically speaking, after birth abortion doesn't exist. Abortion is the end of a pregnancy in which the fetus doesn't survive. It might be involuntary or voluntary. After the fetus is born, its called a baby and its alive and considered a person. Because of this, its, under the law of 98% of the countries i'm sure, considered murder and not abortion.

Its ridiculou to mix both concepts.

Now, what i am not sure is if this is the right topic for this forum and its underaged members.
I thought it was blatantly obvious that it was murder (Infanticide), but I'm glad someone did actually point it out for those who think the OP is legitimate.

Thanks Scorps! (Btw, did you know that you're bald?) o.o
 

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I thought it was blatantly obvious that it was murder (Infanticide), but I'm glad someone did actually point it out for those who think the OP is legitimate.

Thanks Scorps! (Btw, did you know that you're bald?) o.o
Did you know we mods have something on our end that resembles a red flag? when we click it, members feel the most wonderfull things...wanna feel it? :scorps:

Btw, i shave my head...I'm not bald.
 

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Did you know we mods have something on our end that resembles a red flag? when we click it, members feel the most wonderfull things...wanna feel it? :scorps:

Btw, i shave my head...I'm not bald.
Red's my favorite color! =DD Ask Tsuchi, she knows about my red "problem" xd

Oh yes, the abortions... Can I after-birth abort the person who created the idea?
 

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Rei and Versuvio have spammed before ;) Everyone has a little spam in them ^.^


...or is that a little Hells?


...or a little unborn (Or in this case born) fetus-child-thing? :confused:
 

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Rei and Versuvio have spammed before ;) Everyone has a little spam in them ^.^


...or is that a little Hells?


...or a little unborn (Or in this case born) fetus-child-thing? :confused:
I agree.

Byt hey, I'm just giving them their own medicine, meaning don't eat the tree you're barking or how did the saying go......... xd :rolleyes:
 
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