Kisame vs EMS Madara (argument included)

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Nowhere in the manga does it say Samehada absorbs ninjutsu - unless you can provide a page. The one you keep providing with Bee and katon is just a division of the fire. Absorption would be represented by the fire going towards the sword. Sorry nub, stop trying to make your own rationalizations.

And IF the samehada absorbs ALL chakra, that means it would absorb nature chakra and turn into a slab of rock.
 

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err just tell me how will kisame counterr tsukiyomi ?

K.O madara wins 10/10 times :rofl:

and VM me if u answer it, i will come with another counter :D
 

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Samehada has absorbed elemental chakra before and Amaterasu according to databOOk is the ultimate fire release, it absorbed the lightning chakra right out of Killerbee's sword in their fight and cut Itachi's fireball technique into two. So Amaterasu is countered.
 
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Samehada has absorbed elemental chakra before and Amaterasu according to databOOk is the ultimate fire release, it absorbed the lightning chakra right out of Killerbee's sword in their fight and cut Itachi's fireball technique into two. So Amaterasu is countered.
Thank you kind sir. +rep

Hard to keep a defense against 4+ people xd
 
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I don't think Kisame could BEAT Madara, but I think he would be able to do serious damage to him. It would be a very close fight, but Madara would be the strongest and walk of the battlefield as the champion :p
 

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Thats Edo madara with Rinnegan and hashirama's Powers.

Ems madara is much weaker than Edo madara.
Dont know why you actually replied to him because when a post fails this much its best to ignore it.

Anyway samahada wasnt happy absorbing a C rank fire jutsu. Id like to see its reaction when it tries to absorb the strongest fire technique to exist. Chances are it will disown kisame after that torture xd
 

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Dont know why you actually replied to him because when a post fails this much its best to ignore it.

Anyway samahada wasnt happy absorbing a C rank fire jutsu. Id like to see its reaction when it tries to absorb the strongest fire technique to exist. Chances are it will disown kisame after that torture xd
Bee stabbed through Samehada when he tore Kisame's chest organs, you could actually see Samehada bleeding and it didn't disown him then.
 

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A separate thread had a lot of comments on saying Kisame couldn't beat Madara. His chances to beat Edo Madara are very slim as he can't seal.

So vs EMS Madara it's VERY likely he would win.

Madara hasn't shown any attacks that are fast enough for someone to not react to such as Amaterasu.

Susanoo would be countered very easily with a jutsu that absorbs chakra, and chakra jutsu.

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Madara has a really strong Katon jutsu that took multiple ninjas to cancel out.

Kisame has two answers to any Katon jutsu that Madara can throw at him.

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Samehada can cut through the jutsu easily. That was Itachis strongest Katon jutsu. It was split right down the middle.

Susanoo is canceled out with Shark bullet technique.

Katon is canceled out.

Madara has no way to get out of Kisames dome jutsu.

Madara has shown nothing to counter 1000 shark summons.

Kisame wins 8/10 times.

DO NOT FLAME. I presented my argument if you don't agree counter it.
This time, you have some good arguments, so we can seriously debate:

A) Tobi once said that, to use Susano, you need to have Amateratsu and Tsukoyomi... If what I read was a bad translation, that I do not know, but it could mean Madara can possibly use Tsukoyomi...
B) Madara has shown the ability to use the multiple shadow clone jutsu... That said, he might be able to overpower Kisame with Taijutsu and his weapons...
C) Now, the trickyest part: Meteoryte jutsu! We don't know for sure whether it is an MS/EMS or a Rinnengan Jutsu, but if he can use it with EMS, he sure can beat Kisame... U_U

I do however agree that Kisame would be a great opponent for Madara, but I can't really picture Madara loosing to Kisame... U_U
 

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This time, you have some good arguments, so we can seriously debate:

A) Tobi once said that, to use Susano, you need to have Amateratsu and Tsukoyomi... If what I read was a bad translation, that I do not know, but it could mean Madara can possibly use Tsukoyomi...
B) Madara has shown the ability to use the multiple shadow clone jutsu... That said, he might be able to overpower Kisame with Taijutsu and his weapons...
C) Now, the trickyest part: Meteoryte jutsu! We don't know for sure whether it is an MS/EMS or a Rinnengan Jutsu, but if he can use it with EMS, he sure can beat Kisame... U_UI do however agree that Kisame would be a great opponent for Madara, but I can't really picture Madara loosing to Kisame... U_U
If madara uses that Jutsu he dies to.

Also i think it is a rinnegan
Nagato used somthing like it, But on a Much Smaller scale.
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If madara uses that Jutsu he dies to.

Also i think it is a rinnegan
Nagato used somthing like it, But on a Much Smaller scale.
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Hmmm, I think this one is an amplified Shinra Tensei though... Still, you might be right, and Madara's being the same thing... :shrug:

And, maybe he can survive if he uses it at long range? :shrug:
 

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As the blade is made up of scales, it inflicts injuries through shredding or shaving what it comes into contact with, rather than just cutting the object in question. This flaying effect is similar to a shark's skin, hence the sword's name. While it ordinarily remains rigid, Samehada's hilt is able to stretch and bend to great extent, allowing the weapon to be used like a flail.[5]
Samehada shares a symbiotic relationship with its wielder, similar to that of the kikaichū. Although it continually consumes the chakra of its owner, its largest meals come from fights, wherein it absorbs the chakra of the opposition instead. Such an ability allows Samehada to literally slice through an opponent's techniques, in spite of whether the chakra has been transformed or not,[6] and even prevent them from being performed by absorbing all of the necessary chakra, before preparations can be completed.[7][8] This is particularly useful when fighting jinchūriki, as Samehada can quickly deplete their large chakra supplies as well as remove their chakra cloaks, illustrated when Killer B was reduced back to Version 1 after initially being in Version 2.[9] However, it seems to be unable to automatically absorb ambient chakra, as in all instances where it has absorbed chakra are when either the opponent had a visible aura around them or when direct physical contact had already been established.[7][8] Due to its voracious appetite, Samehada is drawn to those with large chakra supplies, allowing it to be used as a quasi-sensor.



Tsukuyomi is thrown out too since this page says it continually takes chakra from Kisame.

I win you lose.

this doesn't honestly counter and s rank jutsu like amaterasu if anything it just splits it in half,
remember amaterasu is formed wherever madara looks if he just looks at samehada a lot and uses amaterasu it would eventually be destroyed . and thats just looking at samehada what if he looks at kisame shore kisame wll dodje it once or tiwice but he will get caught and be destroyed by amaterasu
 

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that is chiabku tensaei that nagato is doing
That is not a chibaku tensei. If it was itachi/Bee would of been pulled in aswell not just Naruto, Plus we didn't even see him Throw that Black Orb.

He is using Deva paths Banshō Ten'in (almightly pull/Divine attractor).

Since it Makes sense that he can Pull Objects towards him and Banshō Ten'in's range has never been stated, It's likely he can Pull Objects From Space like Madara did.
 
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