Kisame vs EMS Madara (argument included)

[Nikes]

madara does have amaterasu -_- and tsukyomi

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he even hinted he has tsukyomi -_- he wants to cast in on the moon ffs .....

these three jutsu come in a package..

Thanks.

I came to accept that he does have those.

Amaterasu is chakra samehada absorbs chakra. I don't see why it wouldn't no matter how strong it is. It's still chakra. If it was Dust Release or TBB that's different just because of the force and size.

You should know that samehada and Kisame share chakra. Tsukuyomi wouldn't work because samehada can break him out of it disrutping his chakra.

Plus we don't know how his tsukuyomi works :shrug:

 

[ultimateuchiha808]

oo lol I forgot

:sy:
Are you guys idiots??????
It doesn't matter if he's Edo Tensei or not,Edo tensei is like Izanagi w/o the effects of losing an eye. Madara can still use Izanagi, but instead it will take one of his eyes. :flaw:


ALSO this goes for the rest of you, YOU GUYS ARE SO FREAKIN STUPID.

You guys are making such a big deal about his 1000 sharks technique. That jutsu sucks blue waffles. Plus you guys repeat the same quotes :nexus:

Just because it's EMS Madara, it doesn't mean he can't use jutsus. That'd be pointless if EMS users are only allowed to use their EMS techniques while using the sharingan. It's like saying just because Naruto's eyes have changed from blue to red because he's angry, he's only allowed to use nine tailed fox techniques.

Madara would win 1000000000000000000000000000000000% of the time.
Only because of the fact that if you're going to give Kisame no restrictions to his fighting.
You might as well let Madara use ALL of his jutsus. It's only fair.
Plus if Madara is allowed to use all of his jutsus he'd win by the use of just two techniques:
1. Counter giant water ball and/or 1000 sharks with a giant SHINRA TENSEI.
then use
2. CHIBAKU TENSEI.

THE END


And I know most of you are thinking "Well, all Kisame has to do is hit the black ball like Itachi/Bee/Naruto did." However, I do not believe that Kisame is smart enough to figure that out. Plus we all know that Madara is far more superior to Nagato so his chibaku tensei would be on a larger scale and closer towards the SO6P moon.

And another counter you guys might have is "They didn't show it so he doesn't have it." Well, if you look back you can see that all rinnegan users can use the same couple of techniques:
1.Deva Path. A.K.A. Yahiko looking pain. Push/Pull techniques.
2.Asura Path. A.K.A. Three faced guy. Weapon specialist.
3.Animal Path. A.K.A. guy/girl. Summoning jutsus.
4.Human path. A.K.A. tall guy that gets killed by Rasenshuriken. Grab souls and read minds technique.
5.Naraka Path. A.K.A. big angry guy with needles in his ear. Interrogation using the King of Hell/Giant mouth.

AND THE SIXTH AND FINAL ONE THAT WOULD BE DECISIVE FOR THE WIN IS
6.Preta Path. A.K.A. Guy who turns into rock toad. Absorbing abilities. Just like Kisame, technically Samehada.

If the first plan doesn't work, he can do this:
1.Separate Kisame and Samehada completely.
2.Absorb Kisame's high amount of chakra using Preta Path technique.
or
2.Genjutsu. Although, if the Genjutsu does work all Kisame would have to do is bite his tongue again.

THE END AGAIN

More 2 step plans:

1.Counter Water Release: Great Shark Bullet Technique with Preta Path.
2.Demolish Kisame.

 

[Nikes]

:sy:
Are you guys idiots??????
It doesn't matter if he's Edo Tensei or not,Edo tensei is like Izanagi w/o the effects of losing an eye. Madara can still use Izanagi, but instead it will take one of his eyes. :flaw:


ALSO this goes for the rest of you, YOU GUYS ARE SO FREAKIN STUPID.

You guys are making such a big deal about his 1000 sharks technique. That jutsu sucks blue waffles. Plus you guys repeat the same quotes :nexus:

Just because it's EMS Madara, it doesn't mean he can't use jutsus. That'd be pointless if EMS users are only allowed to use their EMS techniques while using the sharingan. It's like saying just because Naruto's eyes have changed from blue to red because he's angry, he's only allowed to use nine tailed fox techniques.

Madara would win 1000000000000000000000000000000000% of the time.
Only because of the fact that if you're going to give Kisame no restrictions to his fighting.
You might as well let Madara use ALL of his jutsus. It's only fair.
Plus if Madara is allowed to use all of his jutsus he'd win by the use of just two techniques:
1. Counter giant water ball and/or 1000 sharks with a giant SHINRA TENSEI.
then use
2. CHIBAKU TENSEI.

THE END


And I know most of you are thinking "Well, all Kisame has to do is hit the black ball like Itachi/Bee/Naruto did." However, I do not believe that Kisame is smart enough to figure that out. Plus we all know that Madara is far more superior to Nagato so his chibaku tensei would be on a larger scale and closer towards the SO6P moon.

And another counter you guys might have is "They didn't show it so he doesn't have it." Well, if you look back you can see that all rinnegan users can use the same couple of techniques:
1.Deva Path. A.K.A. Yahiko looking pain. Push/Pull techniques.
2.Asura Path. A.K.A. Three faced guy. Weapon specialist.
3.Animal Path. A.K.A. guy/girl. Summoning jutsus.
4.Human path. A.K.A. tall guy that gets killed by Rasenshuriken. Grab souls and read minds technique.
5.Naraka Path. A.K.A. big angry guy with needles in his ear. Interrogation using the King of Hell/Giant mouth.

AND THE SIXTH AND FINAL ONE THAT WOULD BE DECISIVE FOR THE WIN IS
6.Preta Path. A.K.A. Guy who turns into rock toad. Absorbing abilities. Just like Kisame, technically Samehada.

If the first plan doesn't work, he can do this:
1.Separate Kisame and Samehada completely.
2.Absorb Kisame's high amount of chakra using Preta Path technique.
or
2.Genjutsu. Although, if the Genjutsu does work all Kisame would have to do is bite his tongue again.

THE END AGAIN

More 2 step plans:

1.Counter Water Release: Great Shark Bullet Technique with Preta Path.
2.Demolish Kisame.

EMS Madara when he fought Hashirama. Without Kyuubi of course.


Lololol.... Nice post though wish I read the rest after I saw a rinnegan tech used.

 

[arv993]

Thanks.

I came to accept that he does have those.

Amaterasu is chakra samehada absorbs chakra. I don't see why it wouldn't no matter how strong it is. It's still chakra. If it was Dust Release or TBB that's different just because of the force and size.

You should know that samehada and Kisame share chakra. Tsukuyomi wouldn't work because samehada can break him out of it disrutping his chakra.

Plus we don't know how his tsukuyomi works :shrug:

you're making the assumption that first of all samehada can break his genjutsu. we have never seen that capability from samehada

amaterasu would continue burning samehada please even itachi's normal katon jutsus hurt samehada. even if it can break the genjutsu it cant beat amaterasu.

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what makes you think it can take on amaterasu and amatearsu unlike other katon techs cant be extinguished so there goes suiton techs

 

[kisamexRocks]

Yup makes sense. Kisame > Madara.

 

[Akatsuki wise guy]

omg just no madara. stop boasting kisame.

 

[Nikes]

you're making the assumption that first of all samehada can break his genjutsu. we have never seen that capability from samehada

amaterasu would continue burning samehada please even itachi's normal katon jutsus hurt samehada. even if it can break the genjutsu it cant beat amaterasu.

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what makes you think it can take on amaterasu and amatearsu unlike other katon techs cant be extinguished so there goes suiton techs

It didn't get hurt it just didn't like it.

Since it absorbed Katon already it's PROVEN it can absorb fire.

Samehada and Kisame share chakr, meaning they channel eachothers chakra to eachother. That's why samehada left Kisame because it feeds on the users chakra constantly.

 

[arv993]

It didn't get hurt it just didn't like it.

Since it absorbed Katon already it's PROVEN it can absorb fire.

Samehada and Kisame share chakr, meaning they channel eachothers chakra to eachother. That's why samehada left Kisame because it feeds on the users chakra constantly.

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Look at what bee said "cant take the heat" and samehada was in pain thus making those weird noises and pretty much complained to bee. its not just that he doesnt like it which is due to the fact its in pain. and amaterasu burns for a long time and does not get extinguished by suiton. it would hurt samehada even more than the lower level katon tech which itachi used. it cant absorb too much due to the pain it undergoes it would continually be hurt by its flames

 

[Forget Me Not]

ONE Tsukuyomi is all it takes to defeat Kisame.

J/S.

 

[Nikes]

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Look at what bee said "cant take the heat" and samehada was in pain thus making those weird noises and pretty much complained to bee. its not just that he doesnt like it which is due to the fact its in pain. and amaterasu burns for a long time and does not get extinguished by suiton. it would hurt samehada even more than the lower level katon tech which itachi used. it cant absorb too much due to the pain it undergoes it would continually be hurt by its flames

BUT he still absorbed it.

It burns for a long time in normal conditions, but Samehada absorbs chakra Amaterasu is chakra.

No matter how strong it is Samehada has absorbed chakra and you can't dispute other wise.

 

[Kwalker394]

ehhhh Idk :/ he is strong but i dont think hes that strong

 

[Out Of Ctrl]

I'm looking forward for your Kisame vs SO6P thread in the future. I'm sure Kisame has a chance too.

 

[~Uzumaki~]

Yes, I've arrived to give my opinion
Kisame wins. How?
I'll explain
He's Itachi's partner so he knows not to make eye contact and its also common Sharingan battling knowledge(Kisame has same databook intelligence with Sasuke, Neji so he's not an idiot)
Samehada will eat Amaterasu but will complain.
Kisame's giant water release techs will counter fire release techs.
Kisame has the ability to go underground which is Susanoo's weakness then come up under Susanoo behind Madara then Samehada eats all Madara's chakra so he can't even use Susanoo anymore.
Kisame can use water clones to prevent genjutsu by confusing Madara with numbers and fight long range(this is in case Madara has any non eye contact genjutsu)
In straight taijutsu, Kisame wins with clones helping him and Samehada helping as well plus there's the 1000 feeding sharks technique.
If EMS Madara has Kyubi then Kisame can
Eat Kyubi's chakra then use his large water tech that he used on Bee
He can use his large shark that eats enemy attacks to get bigger, to eat TBB and get big enough to knock Kyubi down then eat his chakra.


Kisame wins without incident.

 

[Roofy128]

madara ftw

 

[Tartarus]

madara does have amaterasu -_- and tsukyomi

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he even hinted he has tsukyomi -_- he wants to cast in on the moon ffs .....

these three jutsu come in a package..

You wouldn't believe how long I've been hoping you'd post that.
Anyway Madara wins. There is no proof Kisame can absorb amaterasu, the OP is just making up facts now. Samehada could barely handle a fireball, saying it could handle amaterasu is like saying if someone survived being set on fire once, they could survive being thrown into the sun.
This will be kisame after the fight

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[Mishima]

The difference maker in Kisame vs Itachi is Amaterasu which Madara does not have.

How do you know Madara doesn't have amaterasu

 

[Nikes]

You wouldn't believe how long I've been hoping you'd post that.
Anyway Madara wins. There is no proof Kisame can absorb amaterasu, the OP is just making up facts now. Samehada could barely handle a fireball, saying it could handle amaterasu is like saying if someone survived being set on fire once, they could survive being thrown into the sun.
This will be kisame after the fight

Amaterasu is ninjutsu and its made up of chakra just like any other jutsu.

Samehada absorbs chakra.

No made up facts.

That's a poor analogy btw.

 

[Vexorian]

You wouldn't believe how long I've been hoping you'd post that.
Anyway Madara wins. There is no proof Kisame can absorb amaterasu, the OP is just making up facts now. Samehada could barely handle a fireball, saying it could handle amaterasu is like saying if someone survived being set on fire once, they could survive being thrown into the sun.
This will be kisame after the fight

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Here's the problem.....Amaterasu is chakra. Thus, Samehada ABSORBS chakra. Barely handle a fireball? It absorbed it. We haven't seen it, so we can't say it can or cannot do it. But it is usable in an argument. So unless you can come up with a reason it WOULD NOT work, don't go downgrading it.

 

[Lunir]

I think it depends on whether or not EMS Madara has Kyubi. If he does he wins, if he doesn't it comes down to how efficiently Samehada and the Daikodon no jutsu would absorb the chakra to dissipate Susano'o.

If Kisame can take down Suasano'o I don't think Madara can counter the water dome and Samehada fusion.

But this also assumes that the meteors are a Rinnegan tech. It's a little hard to tell, his Susano'o did the hand seals to summon them but his Rinnegan was active at the time as well.

 

[Tobitime]

I don't think that Kisame could counter Madara's genjutsu. Plus Kisame admitted inferiority to Itachi and Madadara>Itachi