Fourth Hokage

Original Tazuna · Mar 25, 2012

In the anime they have said multiple times that he was the strongest ninja that has ever lived, wat s al this gayness with hashirama???

Itachi Namikaze · Mar 25, 2012

I don't think that Minato is the strongest to ever live, but Hashirama hype and fanboyism has gone through the roof for no reason at all other than some dumb comments made by Madara.

None of his abilities seem that great to me.

Ryuu.. · Mar 25, 2012

It has never said he is the strongest ninja that ever lived. Never.

fastlane · Mar 25, 2012

Jiraya said when he was gonna teach naruto the rasengan " the fourth hokage was unrivaled"

slashestranged · Mar 25, 2012

i bet kakashi could beat hashirama in a 1v1

Datguyjr · Mar 25, 2012

Not the strongest, Just been called a rare genius and very talented.

Itachi Namikaze · Mar 25, 2012

slashestranged said:
i bet kakashi could beat hashirama in a 1v1

Now that is going too far.

Hashirama was the first Hokage after all, and his mastery of the elements he has is probably far greater than Kakashi's.

Kakashi's strategy of hiding in the ground to pop up and raikiri people would be ineffective as Mokuton comes from the ground.

iSpeak · Mar 25, 2012

Where was it stated Minato was the strongest who ever lived? Geeze.

Sir Blades · Mar 25, 2012

minato was always said to be the strongest. many characters have said so over the years. if you think it was only to build some dialogue between characters, then your wrong.just saying.

OWanime · Mar 25, 2012

slashestranged said:
i bet kakashi could beat hashirama in a 1v1

stop I'm doubting he can even beat tsunade because of her high chakra and healing abilities but mokuton and other elements may too much for kakashi; kakashi's only effective tech vs hashi is kamui xd 4th hokage would have been the strongest hokage if he reached his peak/prime but since hiruzen was in his prime and is a legend he is the strongest xd

Yuka · Mar 25, 2012

bladesofchaos360 said:
minato was always said to be the strongest. many characters have said so over the years. if you think it was only to build some dialogue between characters, then your wrong.just saying.

Yes indeed he was very strong and splendid ninja

6PathsofKami · Mar 25, 2012

He was the fastest no doubt.

Pizcobaby · Mar 25, 2012

~Ryuu~ said:
It has never said he is the strongest ninja that ever lived. Never.

yeah they definitely never said hey was the strongest that lived nobody ever did ever. As for the Hashirama hype i agree it's annoying

Shisui Namikaze · Mar 25, 2012

Kishi himself said that minato was unrivaled. Then he says thru iruka that in his prime the 3rd was the strongest hokage. Now he's on hashirama. Kishi is confusing up and it's annoying. But if you ask me. I say minato is the strongest just because he's the main characters father and since the first chapter of the manga naruto has been striving to become stronger than minato. If minato wasn't the strongest then why would naruto push to be at minatos level? Why not hashirama or hiruzen. See what I'm saying?

Destined2BHokage · Mar 25, 2012

Itachi Namikaze said:
I don't think that Minato is the strongest to ever live, but Hashirama hype and fanboyism has gone through the roof for no reason at all other than some dumb comments made by Madara.

None of his abilities seem that great to me.

madara has been using hashirama's power against the 5 kage's n its working for him...what do u mean his abilities arent that great? his ability is being used to defeat 5 kage's at once.

Luminousi · Mar 25, 2012

slashestranged said:
i bet kakashi could beat hashirama in a 1v1

Are... you... kidding?
Not a 1st fan boy but, Kakashi is nothing compared to him. Hashirama is the only recorded person to ever defeat Madara Uchiha and the 5 Kages are having trouble defeating him right now. Now let me ask again.
Are... you f*cking kidding me?

Itachi Namikaze · Mar 25, 2012

Destined2BHokage said:
madara has been using hashirama's power against the 5 kage's n its working for him...what do u mean his abilities arent that great? his ability is being used to defeat 5 kage's at once.

What ability? So far if he were only using Hashirama's abilities Madara would have been killed multiple times.

Also, Hashirama's jutsus have done literally nothing to the kages. That world tree jutsu with the pollen, it did nothing!!

None of the mokuton attacks have done a single thing to the kages, and there are manga pages to prove it. Literally the only attacks that have either saved Madara or injured the kages have been from Madara himself.

Defense- preta path (multiple times, rinnegan ability)
Susanoo - (used fairly constantly, EMS ability)
edo regeneration (because he is an edo, not Hashirama's abilities)

Offensive attacks that have actually done something -
Meteors (rinnegan)
Susanoo sword(ems)
fire jutsu (Madara's regular jutsu)
Yasaka Magatama (EMS)

So please find me a mokuton attack that has connected and done anything at all to the 5 kages. Find me a manga page, just one will do.

ajpn920 · Mar 25, 2012

Shisui Namikaze said:
Kishi himself said that minato was unrivaled. Then he says thru iruka that in his prime the 3rd was the strongest hokage. Now he's on hashirama. Kishi is confusing up and it's annoying. But if you ask me. I say minato is the strongest just because he's the main characters father and since the first chapter of the manga naruto has been striving to become stronger than minato. If minato wasn't the strongest then why would naruto push to be at minatos level? Why not hashirama or hiruzen. See what I'm saying?

^^this

Destined2BHokage · Mar 25, 2012

Itachi Namikaze said:
What ability? So far if he were only using Hashirama's abilities Madara would have been killed multiple times.

Also, Hashirama's jutsus have done literally nothing to the kages. That world tree jutsu with the pollen, it did nothing!!

None of the mokuton attacks have done a single thing to the kages, and there are manga pages to prove it. Literally the only attacks that have either saved Madara or injured the kages have been from Madara himself.

Defense- preta path (multiple times, rinnegan ability)
Susanoo - (used fairly constantly, EMS ability)
edo regeneration (because he is an edo, not Hashirama's abilities)

Offensive attacks that have actually done something -
Meteors (rinnegan)
Susanoo sword(ems)
fire jutsu (Madara's regular jutsu)
Yasaka Magatama (EMS)

So please find me a mokuton attack that has connected and done anything at all to the 5 kages. Find me a manga page, just one will do.

ur forgetting that he used the meteors before the fight started with the 5 kages...n from the moment he started battling with the 5 kages his main jutsu has been wood release and u knw it, yes he used susanoo n fire release but he also used wood clones too. he has been using hashirama's wood release for most of his battle with the kages and has just been in his susanoo for defence. he's been using the mokuton and ranting about how great hashirama was.

Itachi Namikaze · Mar 25, 2012

Destined2BHokage said:
ur forgetting that he used the meteors before the fight started with the 5 kages...n from the moment he started battling with the 5 kages his main jutsu has been wood release and u knw it, yes he used susanoo n fire release but he also used wood clones too. he has been using hashirama's wood release for most of his battle with the kages and has just been in his susanoo for defence. he's been using the mokuton and ranting about how great hashirama was.

He has been using the mokuton for most of the battle and that is the point of my post. All the mokuton abilities have done literally nothing to anyone.

Find me a manga page where Hashirama's abilities have done something to the 5 kages.

Everything that has been damaging has been either a rinnegan or an EMS jutsu, how are you not getting this?

Don't bring up clones, as anyone can make clones out of anything, it is not an ability restricted to Hashirama like mokuton is.

Either way you can't disagree with my post, so I win.

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