Should sharingan users be able to use gentle fist?

[Owarij]

=/ Anyone can emit a chakra burst from their hands/fingertips. Care to provide a proof?

If you don't understand gentle fist, why do you try to argue? Gentle Fist is more like shutting down your enemies chakra flow, disturbing the actual flow of chakra. When using gentle fist, hyuuga takes several finger strikes at the enemy, closing multiple chakra points with their own chakra. Could an uchiha see every chakra point and make finger strikes? Also, its very rare to master even the heavenly rotation for even hyuugas. I'd doubt an uchiha could master gentle fist, but more over imitate hyuugas.

Oh yea, and answer my question on the top.

i see your point , but in a way he is right.... the emitting of chakra from finger tips etc isn't a kkg or hiden tech , and even hiden techs can be thought to anyone with proper training...

But yea, without byakugan its practically useless since you cant see the persons chakra points..

idk if every persons chakra points is different, if it isn't then it would be possible for a genius ninja to simply memorize the anatomy of a body, and close points without byakugan...But if it changes ..then utterly useless..

 

[Exaar]

Sharingan can't see chakra Points like the Byakugan Can.

So no Sharingan users can't use it Anywhere near to the effectiveness of a Hyuga.

Anyone can Learn gental fist with the right training, But it's useless without having the byakugans insight

 

[slashestranged]

"Sasuke reveals that he had attacked Shinno minutes earlier with Chidori Senbon at his vital chakra points to cut off his chakra flow."

If Sasuke could do this why can't he learn gentle fist?

 

[Noble Armada]

Anybody can emit chakra through their hands but the reason the byakugan users do it is because they can see chakra points. When obito awakened his sharingan he said he could now see their flow of chakra. also in the movie bonds, sasuke hit some dude in his chakra points and cut off their chakra.

i think they can learn it. only problem is that no hyuga is going to teach anyone outside the clan how to use it

The Sharingan can see chakra and sense the flow, but the Byakugan can see the actual tenketsu in the person's body. The Sharingan's chakra vision isn't that finite. It's more meant for movements and copying jutsu.

 

[Sageofthepath]

By this logic, I can pretty much make an argument of having a normal shinobi posess the abilities of all these clans by him having mere chakra control: Aburame, Akimichi, Amagiri, Fūma, Hirasaka, Hōzuki, Inuzuka, Kaguya, Nara, and much other. There's me going destroying your weak argument.

The point is would they be able to do it?

Not would they be good

or
Should they take time to learn it

you are missing the point

 

[Zoro..]

Proof please

have you ever ear about pressure point??? surely not

Have you ever heard of typing properly? Prolly not.

Tenketsu are basically pressure points within your organs themselves, however hitting them is near impossible since you have 361 in your body and they are tiny. There is no proof that they are in the same place nor is there that they arent however put it this way. If you are fighting someone in close combat they are always moving. Now without seeing what do you think your odds are of hitting someone with your fingertips while exerting chakra into them and hitting an exact spot which you somehow know contains a chakra point? Impossible. And even if you hit one, one is not nearly enough to harm an opponent you would need to hit multiple ones thus is impossible.

Now for the palm burst parts. It says extremely powerful Jonin or Kage level people learn how to emit small amounts of chakra from their Tenketsu like Tsunade or Sakura to increase the power of their punch. Now that is only to increase power. Hyuugas actually dont need physical contact and release it into their opponent. This requires no physical contact thus is at least hundreds of times harder. Now Tsunade, a medical ninja who has studied thousands of bodies, knows the human body inside out and has amazing chakra control cannot use Gentle Fist. If you argue that she cannot see chakra flow then your dumb because Chakra flow does not matter since we are talking about chakra points. So basically if Tsunade cant use Gentle Fist no Uchiha can.

Once Kishi shows that they can link me the page and Ill believe you.

 

[Noble Armada]

"Sasuke reveals that he had attacked Shinno minutes earlier with Chidori Senbon at his vital chakra points to cut off his chakra flow."

If Sasuke could do this why can't he learn gentle fist?

The Byakugan targets the individual tenketsu, which are not vital points. This statement doesn't make sense because the "vital points" of the body have very little to do with the chakra flow. The tenketsu are much smaller and are directly linked to the chakra system. The vital points just happen to coincide with the chakra flow.

 

[House]

i see your point , but in a way he is right.... the emitting of chakra from finger tips etc isn't a kkg or hiden tech , and even hiden techs can be thought to anyone with proper training...

But yea, without byakugan its practically useless since you cant see the persons chakra points..

idk if every persons chakra points is different, if it isn't then it would be possible for a genius ninja to simply memorize the anatomy of a body, and close points without byakugan...But if it changes ..then utterly useless..

Even if you could see them, a non-hyuuga wouldn't be able to have the most finest chakra control where you'd be able to inject your opponent with your own chakra, thus disturbing the chakra flow.

 

[slashestranged]

why wouldnt a non hyuuga be able to have the mist finite chakra control? the only thing unique to hyuuga is the byakugan. that is their only kkg

 

[Sageofthepath]

beacause they say so and they have combine 21000 posts.

 

[Zoro..]

i see your point , but in a way he is right.... the emitting of chakra from finger tips etc isn't a kkg or hiden tech , and even hiden techs can be thought to anyone with proper training...

But yea, without byakugan its practically useless since you cant see the persons chakra points..

idk if every persons chakra points is different, if it isn't then it would be possible for a genius ninja to simply memorize the anatomy of a body, and close points without byakugan...But if it changes ..then utterly useless..

However releasing it into ones body is incredibly tough to pull off. As I said even Tsunade can only use it to increase her brute strength by layering her fist in chakra. This is basically like a Full Body Blow of a Hyuuga which is a basic technique. So basically we are comparing a medical ninja with incredibly great chakra control to a Hyuuga's basic technique. Also even if all chakra points had the same location and a genius memorized them all, what are the odds in close combat that he would be able to strike them when he is fighting a ninja? Constantly moving, crouching bending, moving. It would be physically impossible. Just hitting one would be a stroke of luck, 64 no way. 361? Impossible. Also exerting chakra from your finger tips takes an incredible amount of skill and the chakra scapel is something different then exerting your chakra into someones chakra point and overloading it thus shutting it down.

 

[Rexoniel]

Giving sharingan users the ability to use gentle fist is a bigger insult than upgrading them to rinnegan. That would be the last straw for me if they stole what makes byakugan special when its already being depreciated as is.

 

[slashestranged]

well the hyuuga have shown themselves to be pretty useless so far and the uchiha are better in every way

 

[Zoro..]

Giving sharingan users the ability to use gentle fist is a bigger insult than upgrading them to rinnegan. That would be the last straw for me if they stole what makes byakugan special when its already being depreciated as is.

Spoiler

He cant give it to them because it would be impossible. The Byakuugan is based of three things as I stated. No non Hyuuga has good enough chakra control nor knowledge about the techniques to be able to use them. They can also not see chakra points and if they somehow memorized them tell me how they would hit them.

1:32-1:47 How could someone do that in the spurr of the moment out of memory while using a skill of exerting chakra that is incredibly difficult.

2:36-2:39 Someone could push chakra out of their chakra points exactly at such speed? Without knowing the location of their chakra points. Tsunade can do this but not to this extent with her chakra control. Also she cant do anything past this basic technique.

 

[Rexoniel]

Zoro, I know they can't. I'm merely pointing out the OP shouldn't wish for them to have it when sharingan already has genjutsu, amaterasu, susanoo, and access to rinnegan.

 

[Zoro..]

Zoro, I know they can't. I'm merely pointing out the OP shouldn't wish for them to have it when sharingan already has genjutsu, amaterasu, susanoo, and access to rinnegan.

Lol I was just waiting for someone to post so I didnt have to double post xd If people still wanna argue feel free

 

[slashestranged]

im not saying kishi should start having sasuke use 64 palm or whatever, im just saying that it seems to me that in the naruto universe sharingan users have the potential to learn gentle fist

 

[Sageofthepath]

im not saying kishi should start having sasuke use 64 palm or whatever, im just saying that it seems to me that in the naruto universe sharingan users have the potential to learn gentle fist

they can they're just never gonna be as good at it as a byakugan user.

"Because the chakra pathway system is invisible to the naked eye, the Byakugan is required for this style to be used effectively. Since the Byakugan is unique to the Hyūga clan, it has become their signature style of combat."

 

[solarflare012]

I thought they had to have something to copy. Hyugas don't make hand signs when they use Gentle Fist. Or at least, I've never seen them use any..Since it's Kekkei Genkai, I'm not sure Sharingan users should be able to..

 

[fastrthnwind]

The Hyuugas have the finest chakra control out of pretty much any ninja because they spend their entire lives continuously improving their chakra control through rigorous training. That fact alone would make it hard for any Uchiha to even master the basics of the Gentle Fist style since they work on not just taijutsu and chakra control, but ninjutsu and genjutsu as well.