Kakashi & 7 gates guy>>Minato>>Hashimara>>Madara
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Minato isn't a bad matchup, sadly. Hashirama has a few things going for him.lolxd Thanks,And i haven't judged anyone,like i said i haven't put in the details yet,i want to see if i miss anything
And I can make u believe that Minato can beat hashimara ,But not because Minato is stronger BUT because Minato is a Bad Match Up
1. Stamina
2. Mokuton Bunshin
3. Experience
4. Genjutsu
Sorry, All he has to do is wait for Minato to mistakenly hit his Bunshin with a Rasengan, and impale him with a wooden spike. Much like Madara did to Tsunade. If he can't see it coming, he can't react to it. Point blank. He doesn't have threat perception like Sharingan, KCM, BM, or SM/HM.
madara san
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All he is saying is that Kakashi and Guy COULD beat Miato
Minato COULD beat Hashirama
Hashirama COULD beat Madara
You could basically change around all of the positions and it would still work (except Minato against Madara...)
But Minato could take out Hashirama, with a seal for example? ON the other hand, given the right circumastances, Hashirama could obviously beat Minato through sheer brute force. Ya just gotta catch him first!
Everyone being so sure of their own opinions is annoying! Anyone can be beaten. There are just greater likelihoods with regard to certain pairings
Minato COULD beat Hashirama
Hashirama COULD beat Madara
You could basically change around all of the positions and it would still work (except Minato against Madara...)
But Minato could take out Hashirama, with a seal for example? ON the other hand, given the right circumastances, Hashirama could obviously beat Minato through sheer brute force. Ya just gotta catch him first!
Everyone being so sure of their own opinions is annoying! Anyone can be beaten. There are just greater likelihoods with regard to certain pairings
johnny335704
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I don't agree that Minato can beat Hashirama. because->
Hashirama's earth, water, wood jutsus plus super healing abilities plus genjutsu proficiency plus tailed beasts chakra supressing techniques plus great taijutsu plus atleast good or high analytical ability during war plus unknown kinjutsus (because he created huge scroll full of kinjutsus)
against
Minato's FTG (lvl1,2 & more if any) plus reasengan plus great seals plus enemy detecting technique by finger plus good taijutsu
So I think Hashirama can not be beaten by Minato.
Hashirama's earth, water, wood jutsus plus super healing abilities plus genjutsu proficiency plus tailed beasts chakra supressing techniques plus great taijutsu plus atleast good or high analytical ability during war plus unknown kinjutsus (because he created huge scroll full of kinjutsus)
against
Minato's FTG (lvl1,2 & more if any) plus reasengan plus great seals plus enemy detecting technique by finger plus good taijutsu
So I think Hashirama can not be beaten by Minato.
andrewperez
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minato wins this ...... minato can go head to head with the ninetails.....kakashi isnt a threat to minato but gai is when he opens the gates..... but when it comes down to it minato can teleport gai in another location to saperate them ..... and kakashi doesnt have the power to go head to head with kakashi .......... guy and minato would be a real fight
So are u saying that minato can't do what guy & kakashi are doing
after all they haven't done any damage on their opponent & kakashi & guy have been advoiding attacks
Now if u take in consideration that FTG which is faster,uses little to no chakra,Minato should be able to fight for 2 days without getting even tried,after-all it's his specialty :shrug:
And u do know that madara am talking about has only EMS right:shrug:
How is that going to defeat guy or kakashi,who both have ways of avoiding the EMS justus
Well they have breath in the poison 1st which,i know guy won't because he won't be standing still 7 Gates & hashimara isn't fast enough to attack him like madara did the kages...Kakashi on his own has earth justus which would allow him to go down in the earth,thereby avoiding the poison :shrug:
Well if minato definite can't beat hashimara or madara...could u tell me why thats possible because madara has a better chance of attacking minato that hahsimara who's justu is too slow for minato :shrug:
U have someone who can use all elements & his MS justu sends u to another world then U ahve guy in 7 gates who is faster that what hashimara can see..U have hashimara who has wood release & flower poison.I don't see how hashimara wins :shrug:
xd lol
ok could u agree to share why u disagree
10 Q
Most people don't see that,they just look at them individually:shrug:But this is 2 elite shinobi,
It's won't be that easy :shrug::shrug:
WOW thats a lot of laughs,xd
Guy alone
can to share how thats possible While thanks,want some of that powerful shiit too
Blaze Release
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kakashi owns all
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The Madara i am talking about is the Normal Madara with EMS not the one u are seeing Now
Even if minato is to win doesn't mean he is stronger
I agree
U do know that comparing tusnda's intellect to Minato is not right..
Well he is the ninja that has the highest reaction & reflexes,& that wood from the ground isn't going to work seeing as Minato can know his enemies just by touching the ground says 2 things either he has earth Release or He is a sensor in which both case give him the advantage to avoid that attack
can to share why & how :shrug:
lol that line is funnyxd,it sounds as if minato is the bird in catch the pigeon showxd
Well i think everyone know that hashimara has more justus But when all these is put aginst something he can't see or stay with in speed it isn't going to have that mush effect in the battle
Minato in base speed is faster that hashimara.so him using FTG is going to make hashimara be in a defense position than attacking like many of u think
WELL THANKS FOR TELLING US the obvious Latest Hype of the Manga & I wonder How he died IF he was sooo undefeated.
..Seeing as he still looks young when brought back as an Edo means he died Young So what U are saying is that Guy has a chance of taking Minato without Kakashi:shrug::shrug:
Well it would be interesting to see u fast people go toe to toe But as for who is faster should be obvious,But then again Guy has some Gates Justus that are pretty Good
No i am not Kiddding uxd
Well thats what i basically said But i don't know if that was a mistake or did u mean kakashi & gai>>>minato & hashimara
But i said the same thing
kakashi & 7 gates guy>>>Minato>>Hahsimara>>EMS madara10Q
Well the above logic cannot really apply properly in this case. Even though one person can overtake the other doesnt necessarily mean that they can take on everyone that person has defeated. I dont really think that Minato can defeat Hashirama anyways because it was touched on that Hashirama was extremely powerful. That Flower Tree World Jutsu would be enough to handle Minato no matter how fast he goes.
Kakashi and Guy probably cant handle Madara as he was during his fight with Hashirama. EMS Madara still had all the perks of: high level fire jutsu with large range/power, Susanoo, and the other Mangekyou Sharingan powers.
Kakashi is limited by low chakra levels and Guy is a taijutsu specialist, which renders most of his attacks useless against Susanoo (8th Gate maybe not).
If we go by the above logic, the Konohamaru can defeat every single high level ninja defeated by Pain since he was able to defeat one path with Rasengan. If we also follow your logic, you are saying that Minato can defeat EMS Madara which is probably out of his league.
Well Hahsimara was powerful so was Sarutobi,Nagato,Madara,Minato,Tobimara.He isn't the 1st person to be praised for his power..But his main praise comes from the feats of being able to capture all tails which most people don't get that it has to do with is ability to suppress the tail beast chakra,Madara can't control 2 tails at once with just his EMS if not am sure he would have had the same feat as hashimara
As for the flower Tree are U saying that It is faster than Minato..And i hope u know that u have to take in the poison for u to fall asleep & that Minato can also teleport the trees to another locations
And yes u are right defeating someone doesn't mean u can defeat the other Person that was defeated by the Person u defeated But Kakashi& Guy have 50%chance of defeating madara ..
His sasnooo doesn't have a shield like itachi it can be broken as shown by tsunada 7 gates gai is more than enough to brake sasunoo + it comes with a lot of justu's that are not even chakra based :scorps:With that in Mind Kakshi's MS justu can send anything including madara to the sun
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Baka Sennin
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bringer of darkness is even better vs nagato as Naruto and Kakashi have fooled Nagato multiple times with bunshin, smoke bombs and henge no jutsu.
personally i think the only persons who can top Hashirama are Hiruzen and Naruto.