Harashima Senju vs. Itachi Uchiha
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GodaimeRaikage
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Lets be real, you are a moron.You said it yourself, when Orochimara had the 1st and 2nd under controled, meaning they weren't fighting base on their own skills and mindset, but under the control of someone else.Lets also be real that Itachi didn't break out of Edo Tensei of his own power, but by Shusui Uchiha power, sense it was Shusui Uchiha's eye that freed Itachi, not his own.Ohh Kabuto stated Itachi is on another level, what does that even mean.On another level compare to what? You can't be trying to used a throw away statement like that as proof that Itachi can beat the Ist Hokage who defeat a shinobi with a more powerful sharingan than Itachi's and the Nine Tails at the same time.
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First off it was the 1st hokage and his wife that beat madara not by him self dumb ass.
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Second that's like saying all because sasuke has the Ems he's able to defeat itachi get real credit earn were's credit do.Danzou even compared sasuke MS to itachi and he stated sasuke's was much weaker in genjustu so go eat some dogg food you mut...
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Ok I will answer it, Itachi cannot beat this because Itachi does not have the power to suppress tailed beast like Hashirama had. So basically Hashi only fought Madara, he suppressed the beast so that way Madara cud not use it against him. However against Itachi being able to suppress tailed beast won't do any good. Now we don't even know if Madara actually lost, we only knew what the Tobi told us, the Tobi turned out to be someone else so its possible we don't even know about Madara completely. But anyways buddyboy, we know that being able to suppress beast wud get him nowhere against Itachi, and Itachi wud win from what we have seen. Right??
No because we all know how Itachi wud win but ppl are saying Hashi without even knowing what hes got. And ok I will tell u, a tsukyomi or an amatarasu, the 1st has never shown anything fast enough to evade an amatarasu. Itachi can just end it with a genjutsu and the seal, etc. Plus how the heck wud 1st do anything about susanoo's shield?? Nothing, so from what we have seen Itachi wud win.
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Hashirama will win. but i dont know how though, seems like Itachi could beat him..... but i guess Hashirama did some epic move to beat Madara or something.
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Sealed away nagato with no problems? Your fanboy is showing... Anyways just due to hype and experience I'd say Hashirama would win, his bringer of darkness jutsu would render Itachi's genjutsu useless.
Totsuka No Tsurugi
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well i agree that hashirama>itachi
but bod will rendered itachi genjutsu useless ? LOL, last time i check sharingan can see through genjutsu, it won't be a problem for itachi to break it, since he still have his other means to detect enemy without his sight,
and also do not revive old thread, its been over a month already :sy:
It can but doesn't mean that he can do it.... Sasuke wasn't able to get out of Itachi's Tsukiyomi immediately... Anyways, everyone always complains that people don't use the "search" function to look for threads that have already been made so I don't understand why you are being a hypocrite.
blazekev90
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1st Hokage would win this fight. At first I was gonna say moderate difficulty, but now im thinking he would just own him.
Blaze Release
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To the people who say he beat madara therefore he can beat itachi, common sense really isnt so common. Hashirama might have beaten madara but so what?, what exactly does that prove, apart from the fact that he beat madara?.
From what weve seen of madara so far he seems very cocky and abit of a show off, whilst itachi is the opposite. He analysis and counters effectively. Next madara seems a bit of a spammer and hardly uses genjutsu or any other form of ninja art. Itachi's main fighting style is genjutsu.
Finally there is more to an e/ms user than just what the e/ms gives them in terms of ability. Both madara and itachi might have the same ms technique's (we dont know), but its about how effective its used, even stated by zetsu. Also both madara and itachi have their own different affiliation chakra, apart from fire which could prove vital. Basically apart form ems techniques both have their own individual techniques that may favour or disfavour hashirama. Saying madara lost therefore itachi losses makes little sense to me.
Saying all that nobody truly knows who wins, but since we mightve gotten a glipse of what hashirama can do in edo madara, but also the hype he got from kabuto, id say he should be able to defeat itachi, in his sickened state or not.
From what weve seen of madara so far he seems very cocky and abit of a show off, whilst itachi is the opposite. He analysis and counters effectively. Next madara seems a bit of a spammer and hardly uses genjutsu or any other form of ninja art. Itachi's main fighting style is genjutsu.
Finally there is more to an e/ms user than just what the e/ms gives them in terms of ability. Both madara and itachi might have the same ms technique's (we dont know), but its about how effective its used, even stated by zetsu. Also both madara and itachi have their own different affiliation chakra, apart from fire which could prove vital. Basically apart form ems techniques both have their own individual techniques that may favour or disfavour hashirama. Saying madara lost therefore itachi losses makes little sense to me.
Saying all that nobody truly knows who wins, but since we mightve gotten a glipse of what hashirama can do in edo madara, but also the hype he got from kabuto, id say he should be able to defeat itachi, in his sickened state or not.
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From what I know of Hashi and the moves he knows, I think he could beat Itachi. I don't really want to give reasons, but I will if someone requests it.
It's true itachi is one of my favorite but against the first is a suicide mission, no matter how i look at it itachi can't win even with the best susano and intelience two steps below minato that i consider itachi to be a genius but it is a mean thing to do even though i don't like the first. hashirama was a genjutsu master which mean itachi can't win in genjutsu cause hashi genjutsu is breakable only if you hit the user and madara had the ems which must have the highest genjutsu which madara couldn't put hashirama in and madara said that hashi power was so great that put all the power that the five current kage have together and they won't even be a challenge to hashirama so i don't to say anymore but itachi is one of my favorite character that you guys are trying to underrate.
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Are you crazy what manga are you reading :shrug: Itachi kept his stealth and movement well rounded threw the whole encounter with nagato
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He ko'd Nagato right here i'll admit that's a sneak attack but that proves he can't absorb the black flames.
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The only reason nagato was even able to get back up was because his edo body regenerates.
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The first hokage Bringer-of-Darkness wouldn't work.
The guy went invisble without a trace and the sharingan lets you see the flow of chakra
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I'm just giving credit were credits do